Scummies 2009 Nominations

[PokerFace]

Guys, Paragon of Mafia Hunters and the Don Corleone award for most cunning manipulation are supposed to reflect an exceptional performance overall as town or scum this year, or in other words not just one game. That's what differentiates it from the Best Performance awards.

There is one problem I have with those awards. How many games do some people get in during one year? How many of those are as scum and how many as town? I get maybe 1 or 2 of each a year and I'm sure there are other players better than me that do the same with how long games last on the site. Better players usually play less games to better devout time as aposed to pulling a gimbo by joining 20 some games at once. Even Zwet has started to learn some of that lesson.

How many games are those awards suppose to factor in? How many times in a year was kison scum when he won the Don Corleone? If it was many times why was only Guardians UPick game mentioned in the listings and at the scummy ceremony back then? I thought Kison kicked more ass in that Monkey's in Space game than Guardians game.

Is there an exact number of games for those awards? Should there be an exact number? Should the awards instead factor in all the games the player has performed well in since they have been at mafiascum or should we get an award just for that kind of achievement?

There also needs to be awards for Scum on Scum fighting since many scum group games kick more ass then one scum group games.

[tracker]

Fifthed for AGar and Thesp

[Thesp]

Sixth for AGar, which is over the top but required nonetheless.

[Goatrevolt]

I have no clue what the difference is between the Don Corleone award and the best performance by an individual (scum) award is, but here is my guess:

My interpretation is that "Most Cunning Manipulation" is for exactly that. Manipulating the town in some cunning way (in the case of my nom, I assumed it was the use of the bus driver role to become "confirmed town" and then leading the town astray). Best performance by an individual (scum) I believed to be exactly that as well. You put together a great individual performance as scum for a spectacular win.

I'm not aware of any awards that are given out to anyone for good play spanning multiple games (that is a tough one to award anyway), and I don't believe either of the above are awarded for that purpose. Someone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, though.

[SensFan]

Paragon of Mafia and Most Cunning Manipulator are just that, Goat. For a year-round performance of very good Town/Scum play.

[Goatrevolt]

It should be called Most Cunning Manipulator instead of Manipulation if that is the intent.

I stand corrected, though.

[Mr. Flay]

It was last year, by mith at least.

It would probably help if it was under Site Awards, to emphasize the global nature of the qualifications.

[AGar]

I'm amazed by the support, but aren't I too new for "Best Newbie"? The thread says joined by Oct. 2008 the latest.

[iamausername]

I'm amazed by the support, but aren't I too new for "Best Newbie"? The thread says joined by Oct. 2008 the latest.

I'm guessing it's supposed to say 'earliest'. Otherwise it would be a pretty strange definition of "newbie", wouldn't it?

[AGar]

I'm amazed by the support, but aren't I too new for "Best Newbie"? The thread says joined by Oct. 2008 the latest.

I'm guessing it's supposed to say 'earliest'. Otherwise it would be a pretty strange definition of "newbie", wouldn't it?

Very true.

I just want to make sure all is kosher, that's all.

[Papa Zito]

Oh hey that applies to me too. Can we get a clarification on that?

Also

seventh for AGar

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[Kublai Khan]

Best Role

(new or adaptation) - "Flying Pumpkin That Shoots Lazers Out Of Its Ass" Award

I'd like to nominate Vi for creating the role of "Mentor" in Mini 809

Funniest Player

- "The Coffee on the Monitor" Award

I don't have a specific post (though I could easily find one if Search wasn't disabled), but I'd like to nominate Korlash.

[dramonic]

second Korlash for funniest player
Also nominate Korlash for best flavour (paperback writer I think?) for Korlash Town

which reminds me, how do I link a game like what Kublai did right before me?

[RayFrost]

You type the following

Code: Select all

 [url="the url"] some text to describe it or whatever [/url]

[Pomegranate]

Eighth AGar

. Read through the game. Awesome play.

[Korts]

You type the following

Code: Select all

 [url="the url"] some text to describe it or whatever [/url]

Actually, you don't need the quotation marks around the url--that's just for quote tags.

[dramonic]

Thanks.

As I was saying, nominate Korlash for best flavour for Korlash Town

Those morning and lynch scenes are definitely worth a scummy.

[xRECKONERx]

I have never played with AGar, otherwise I'd support him.

[xRECKONERx]

Nominate the Mafia of Advertising Mafia for The Goodfellas Award (Best Performance by a Team)

Epic use of daytalk and general skill to coordinate the entire game. I don't think a single member of the town ever saw through the planned acts of distancing and bussing.

Holy shit, I just skimmed this game.

Fifth

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[Slicey]

I'd like to nominate

SpyreX for funniest player.

If you'd like me to point out a specific post, I would, but reading his posts are really funny imho.

[LlamaFluff]

nominate Xyl for

Best performance in a losing cause

and

Best replacement

for Phables: Death Note

He came in and managed to engineer some impressive scum bluffs near the end of the game, had a great claim, helped find a forced win for scum and third party then got screwed over by an event that slightly changed one players win condition.

[PokerFace]

Third Korlash for funiest

Second Xyl for In loosing cause. He got bastarded out of that and deserved to win with rest of the scum instead of have it end due to bad non-exclusive win conditions

Also I am still wondering about qualifications for certain old and or new awards. See here:

Guys, Paragon of Mafia Hunters and the Don Corleone award for most cunning manipulation are supposed to reflect an exceptional performance overall as town or scum this year, or in other words not just one game. That's what differentiates it from the Best Performance awards.

There is one problem I have with those awards. How many games do some people get in during one year? How many of those are as scum and how many as town? I get maybe 1 or 2 of each a year and I'm sure there are other players better than me that do the same with how long games last on the site. Better players usually play less games to better devout time as aposed to pulling a gimbo by joining 20 some games at once. Even Zwet has started to learn some of that lesson.

How many games are those awards suppose to factor in? How many times in a year was kison scum when he won the Don Corleone? If it was many times why was only Guardians UPick game mentioned in the listings and at the scummy ceremony back then? I thought Kison kicked more ass in that Monkey's in Space game than Guardians game.

Is there an exact number of games for those awards? Should there be an exact number? Should the awards instead factor in all the games the player has performed well in since they have been at mafiascum or should we get an award just for that kind of achievement?

There also needs to be awards for Scum on Scum fighting since many scum group games kick more ass then one scum group games.

[DeathRowKitty]

Nominate ryan2754 for Best Performance in a Losing Cause

for Internal Struggle Mafia. Ryan successfully vigged scum nights 1 AND 2, leaving only one left. Ryan's kills were then directed by the town, which never managed to lynch scum. Ryan was killed on Night 4, after no killing (despite being told to kill) to give the town a chance on Day 5.

[Shanba]

Third Korlash for funiest

Second Xyl for In loosing cause. He got bastarded out of that and deserved to win with rest of the scum instead of have it end due to bad non-exclusive win conditions

Also I am still wondering about qualifications for certain old and or new awards. See here:

Guys, Paragon of Mafia Hunters and the Don Corleone award for most cunning manipulation are supposed to reflect an exceptional performance overall as town or scum this year, or in other words not just one game. That's what differentiates it from the Best Performance awards.

There is one problem I have with those awards. How many games do some people get in during one year? How many of those are as scum and how many as town? I get maybe 1 or 2 of each a year and I'm sure there are other players better than me that do the same with how long games last on the site. Better players usually play less games to better devout time as aposed to pulling a gimbo by joining 20 some games at once. Even Zwet has started to learn some of that lesson.

How many games are those awards suppose to factor in? How many times in a year was kison scum when he won the Don Corleone? If it was many times why was only Guardians UPick game mentioned in the listings and at the scummy ceremony back then? I thought Kison kicked more ass in that Monkey's in Space game than Guardians game.


Is there an exact number of games for those awards? Should there be an exact number? Should the awards instead factor in all the games the player has performed well in since they have been at mafiascum or should we get an award just for that kind of achievement?

First off, I dispute your claim that most plaeyrs only get 1 or 2 games as each faction a year. For a start, most players will get more games as town than as scum. A typical mini lasts 3-4 months, that's 3-4 games per year if you're playing only one game at a time. I would argue most players play more than one game at a time. Furthermore, if you replace in or IC in newbie games, then the amount of games played further increases. I would guess most players get through 3-4 town games and 1-2 scum games a year, less if they play lots of large games. Though in large games, through lynches and nightkills there is, of course, more opprtunity to escape before the end.

But that's actually slightly beside the point, since it is supposed to pick out the best scum player in a year. The best scum player in a year could be apparent from just a single game, or it could be from multiple games and show a consistent high level of play. All the nominations so far, however, are coming from one off performances. Consistent high level performances command a greater degree of respect, I would guess, though it is of course up to the judging committee to decide who wins.

As for why Kison's other games were not listed, presumably it is because they were not included in the nomination. Judges can only judge on the nominations, after all.

There also needs to be awards for Scum on Scum fighting since many scum group games kick more ass then one scum group games.

Propose it then.

[Papa Zito]

I'd like to nominate

SpyreX for funniest player.

If you'd like me to point out a specific post, I would, but reading his posts are really funny imho.

2nd

dis rite here