Ok, now I understand what you mean. I think. I think scum would be more inclined to defend actions, since they know it comes from a townie. Add in the fact that the townie they are defending is a leading wagon that seemed like it will come to fruition, makes it even more likely they will do this, to appear correct and townie in defending the actions.Goatrevolt wrote:You need to back this up. You're simply saying Nuwen's stance is more likely to come from scum, but I want reasonsBattousai wrote:?
My conclusion is that if one of Nuwen or LG were buddying up, it would most likely be Nuwen.
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LG's stance seemed to be that Elmo didn't do enough scummy actions.
Nuwen's stance seemed to be based on defending actions that others have found scummy.
I think that scum would be more likely to defend a townie they think is about to be lynched, and Nuwen's stance seemed to be the most likely way of doing it.whyit's more likely to come from scum. Saying it "seems" the most likely isn't good enough.
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I'm back.
Will hammer if necessary, don't think it is, though.
If more-or-less-policy-lynching is so bad, where are you trying to get a Gurgi lynch (I'm assuming he is your top suspect, though I don't remember why you voted him and when you last talked about him)?Nuwen wrote:I'm not outright defending Elmo right now so much as making sure every single person on the lynch wagon has crystal clear motivations and isn't able to pawn off a possible town lynch as "well, he was acting to anti-town and unhelpful and useless."
I don't think so. I don't remember saying anything about Zazie's alignment.TDC on everyone except Zazie
I remember commenting on fl, Gurgi and Fluff, though.
I sympathize with Elmo's posting lately, but then, that's probably not too much of a surprise.-
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I tend to stick to a 'crush any and all suspicion on sight' type defensiveness. It works out pretty well.Lord Gurgi wrote:LF: It boils down to you complaining but not actually scumhunting at the time. If you actually think my suspicion is weak, you wouldn't have to fram it negatively in the question.
Just was trying to see if there was anything new there or if it was just a repition of points that have already been addressed.-
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meh, it works. Only been lynched as town once doing it, and that was mostly due to a massively suboptimal play from scum 'confirming' themLord Gurgi wrote:Feh, good cover. [/sarcasm]-
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This makes no sense. If he's town, shutting you out from pressuring him IS conducive to scum hunting, because the idea of scum hunting is to pressure scum, not town.Lord Gurgi wrote:I'm sure you've played many many games. That sort of behaviour shuts me out. You actively repelling me is not conducive to scumhunting. Stop it.-
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Basically thatGoatrevolt wrote:
This makes no sense. If he's town, shutting you out from pressuring him IS conducive to scum hunting, because the idea of scum hunting is to pressure scum, not town.Lord Gurgi wrote:I'm sure you've played many many games. That sort of behaviour shuts me out. You actively repelling me is not conducive to scumhunting. Stop it.
If I dont get lynched, it increases chances of a scum lynch. A critical part of playing town is not getting lynched, I even view having to claim outside of a massclaim situation a sign that I have not played a good game.
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Shutting me out from doing anything isn't going to convince me he's town. If he's scum, it's the worst possible thing. To let him do this without any inclination on his alignment is ridiculous.(11:26:07 PM) thesheamuffin: I'm counting gurgi because I would probably make out with him if I were drunk enough-
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If you have got questions, comments, quotes, anything like that im fine with responding to them. Im going to try to pick apart anything you have against me early on though, instead of just letting a weak case sit on me. You really have not been asking me a whole lot of questions about what you are pressuring me about. It seems to be more of a statement then anything else, and I would like to get to the bottom of it ASAP.Lord Gurgi wrote:Come on, it's fine for yourpersonalrecord, but it screws everyone else.-
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You purposely framing what I say negatively is not shutting down my case, it's petty. Trying to shut me up is good for you regardless of your alignment, but it stops me from getting a read on you. People I can't read, I lynch. I am not going to stop.(11:26:07 PM) thesheamuffin: I'm counting gurgi because I would probably make out with him if I were drunk enough-
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Needless to say not having a vote ANYWHERE is tech.
This not being an actual majority lynch is ALSO tech.
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I'm voting Zaz, aren't I?Needless to say not having a vote ANYWHERE is tech.
This not being an actual majority lynch is ALSO tech.
if notUnvote, Vote Zaz"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Ive said a few times that for practical purposes im voting zazie. I just didnt want to kill all lines of conversation from him, as no majority is actually needed. If he can get something in before deadline, its benificial regardless of alignment.SpyreX wrote:TDC and LLama have no votes up.
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Today is August 31st isn't it?
That would make September 1st TOMORROW, right?
I
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I'm sorry...when I did my calculations yesterday I forgot that there was a thirty first of August...
we have 24 hours."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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