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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:52 am

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magnus_orion wrote:ebwop: I want everyone's opinion on the above. I want agreement or disagreement, not sidestepping.
If I answered it seriously then I wouldn'y be able to continue having this much fun! *sidestep*


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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:54 am

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That's the point, yes.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:58 am

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magnus_orion wrote:That's the point, yes.
I see that you have cleverly side tracked the artem wagon while keeping your vote on it. Well played sir, well played.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:05 am

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While right now I have scum vibes from artem, they are of course based on a single post, and therefore unreliable. I'd like to have further imput from artem to test my read vigorously. Therefore, sidetracking the conversation into a subconversation, while keeping my vote where I think it should be, of course, allows me to get reads on a larger pool of players at once, including artem. There's a method to my madness. This has the side-benefit of ending the RVS, or as you adequately put it, stopping people from being able to "continue having so much fun!"
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:11 am

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magnus_orion wrote:While right now I have scum vibes from artem, they are of course based on a single post, and therefore unreliable. I'd like to have further imput from artem to test my read vigorously. Therefore, sidetracking the conversation into a subconversation, while keeping my vote where I think it should be, of course, allows me to get reads on a larger pool of players at once, including artem. There's a method to my madness. This has the side-benefit of ending the RVS, or as you adequately put it, stopping people from being able to "continue having so much fun!"
I've been out of the random voting stage since my second post. Just because I'm being productive doesn't mean I can't have fun! Answering your question does though.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:12 am

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magnus_orion wrote:okay.

artem's was the first psudo-serious seeming post. Therefore, artem is scum
Red dye voted artem, giving town vibes
Kairyuu votes red dye giving scum vibes by voting town.
Pfft.

That's my opinion.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:15 am

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@red dye: I see.
Fair enough.
I'm rather confident that based on your posting frequency, I'll have a rather more well defined read on you soon anyway.

@Kairyuu: I take it thats a sentiment of disagreement, and not a sidestep? Care for elaboration?
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:16 am

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ebwop: To clarify: by elaboration, of course, I'm assuming that you are disagreeing, and am asking on what grounds you disagree.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:16 am

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Do you even have to ask? You're posting an opinion that calls me scum based on horrid reasoning, and asking my opinion of it. Is it not blatantly obvious that I would bias towards disagreement?
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:17 am

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Kairyuu wrote:
magnus_orion wrote:okay.

artem's was the first psudo-serious seeming post. Therefore, artem is scum
Red dye voted artem, giving town vibes
Kairyuu votes red dye giving scum vibes by voting town.
Pfft.

That's my opinion.
It would seem you've chosen to turn down the plea bargain I offered you. Now you have no immunity tomorrow. I promise that you WILL regret it.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:18 am

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Kairyuu wrote:Do you even have to ask? You're posting an opinion that calls me scum based on horrid reasoning, and asking my opinion of it. Is it not blatantly obvious that I would bias towards disagreement?
That you would disagree is predictable, town or scum. "Denial is the most predictable of all human reactions"
I rather more concerned about which points of the reasoning you consider horrid.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:20 am

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Red_Dye wrote:
Kairyuu wrote:
magnus_orion wrote:okay.

artem's was the first psudo-serious seeming post. Therefore, artem is scum
Red dye voted artem, giving town vibes
Kairyuu votes red dye giving scum vibes by voting town.
Pfft.

That's my opinion.
It would seem you've chosen to turn down the plea bargain I offered you. Now you have no immunity tomorrow. I promise that you WILL regret it.
Given that you're the D1 lynch, and will flip scum, I'm pretty sure I won't be regretting not collaborating with you. Thank you and have a noose filled day!
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:21 am

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Kairyuu wrote:Do you even have to ask? You're posting an opinion that calls me scum based on horrid reasoning, and asking my opinion of it. Is it not blatantly obvious that I would bias towards disagreement?
Obviously you aren't going to admit to being scum, but how about explaining your feelings towards your scum partner?
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:23 am

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magnus_orion wrote:
Kairyuu wrote:Do you even have to ask? You're posting an opinion that calls me scum based on horrid reasoning, and asking my opinion of it. Is it not blatantly obvious that I would bias towards disagreement?
That you would disagree is predictable, town or scum. "Denial is the most predictable of all human reactions"
I rather more concerned about which points of the reasoning you consider horrid.
1. The first approach to ending the RVS is more likely to be made my town than scum, though it could be made by either.

2. One who would attempt to extend the RVS by opposing said approach is more likely scum than town.

3. One who would call out said opposition as scummy is more likely town than scum.

So essentially you have your reads on myself and Red_Dye flipped, and your reasoning on Artem is null. Good enough for you?
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:24 am

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Red_Dye wrote:
Kairyuu wrote:Do you even have to ask? You're posting an opinion that calls me scum based on horrid reasoning, and asking my opinion of it. Is it not blatantly obvious that I would bias towards disagreement?
Obviously you aren't going to admit to being scum, but how about explaining your feelings towards your scum partner?
I assume you mean Artem. I think he's made all of one post, and said post contained no strong tells either way.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:31 am

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Okay, I'm getting a pretty strong town read on red dye so far, if only because he/she (?) is thinking along similar lines as me.

Kairyuu is posing interesting reactions.
1. The first approach to ending the RVS is more likely to be made my town than scum, though it could be made by either.

2. One who would attempt to extend the RVS by opposing said approach is more likely scum than town.

3. One who would call out said opposition as scummy is more likely town than scum.
Alright, so running on the assumption of who you are talking about, since its rather unclear.

Okay since they flow in order.
In reference to 1, how was artem's post an attempt to End the RVS? There was no predictable responses to that post which could lead to an end of trivial joking and such, and it seems like it was a psudo serious RVS post, as opposed to a more light hearted one. The air of seriousness makes me suspect artem has an agenda, while townies should just be sort of enjoying themselves at this point.
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:32 am

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Kairyuu wrote:
magnus_orion wrote:
Kairyuu wrote:Do you even have to ask? You're posting an opinion that calls me scum based on horrid reasoning, and asking my opinion of it. Is it not blatantly obvious that I would bias towards disagreement?
That you would disagree is predictable, town or scum. "Denial is the most predictable of all human reactions"
I rather more concerned about which points of the reasoning you consider horrid.
1. The first approach to ending the RVS is more likely to be made my town than scum, though it could be made by either.

2. One who would attempt to extend the RVS by opposing said approach is more likely scum than town.

3. One who would call out said opposition as scummy is more likely town than scum.

So essentially you have your reads on myself and Red_Dye flipped, and your reasoning on Artem is null. Good enough for you?
Who exactly has opposed what? I'm pretty sure the only thing I opposed was the stopping of my fun. That and the ending of the random voting stage are far from mutually exclusive. In fact I feel that I've been posting seriously since my second post. Your attempt to spin it as anything else is whats scummy here.

Kairyuu wrote:
Red_Dye wrote:
Kairyuu wrote:Do you even have to ask? You're posting an opinion that calls me scum based on horrid reasoning, and asking my opinion of it. Is it not blatantly obvious that I would bias towards disagreement?
Obviously you aren't going to admit to being scum, but how about explaining your feelings towards your scum partner?
I assume you mean Artem. I think he's made all of one post, and said post contained no strong tells either way.
Your scum partners first post is so scummy it makes me feel dirty just by reading it. *shudder*. I don't know how any self respecting townie could possibly read it and feel unaffected, unless of course they were even dirtier themselves!
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:37 am

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Magnus, can you explain why being the first to make a semi-serious post is indicative of being scum? Furthermore, can you explain why that's indicative of
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My first post was semi-serious in the last two games, both as town and as scum.
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:41 am

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Let me side step that question with my own.

Why do you consider my reasoning serious enough to defend as far as you have, as opposed to dismissing it as the obvious (in fact, stated) attempt to end the RVS that it is?
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:42 am

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Magnus wrote: Okay, I'm getting a pretty strong town read on red dye so far, if only because he/she (?) is thinking along similar lines as me.
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You don't think that yea-ing everything a townie says can be a scum ploy? In my experience, agreeing with townies can and is often used as a form of scum buddying.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:44 am

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no, he/she has said things that indicate similar lines of thought by bringing up things I was trying to lead the conversation towd before I brought them up.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:45 am

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Magnus wrote: Why do you consider my reasoning serious enough to defend as far as you have, as opposed to dismissing it as the obvious (in fact, stated) attempt to end the RVS that it is?
Because I agree that we should get out of RVS and dismissing your (BS) attacks will simply get us back to square one.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:45 am

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also, if you want to play that game, I agreed with red dye's vote first.
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:46 am

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Artem wrote:Magnus, can you explain why being the first to make a semi-serious post is indicative of being scum? Furthermore, can you explain why that's indicative of
me
being scum?

My first post was semi-serious in the last two games, both as town and as scum.
Why do you care more what he thinks then what I think? Now I'm a little jealous.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:51 am

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Artem wrote:
Magnus wrote: Why do you consider my reasoning serious enough to defend as far as you have, as opposed to dismissing it as the obvious (in fact, stated) attempt to end the RVS that it is?
Because I agree that we should get out of RVS and dismissing your (BS) attacks will simply get us back to square one.
Dismissing my attacks would give me a more town read on you. With reads I would not be back at square one.

BTW, I no longer want people to comment on what I said earlier, but rather conversations going on right now. That is the most expedient way to get accurate reads in this situation
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