Obviously he was wrong about saber, but I would not be against a lynch of, say, hohum. (note that saber, another confirmed town, also had hohum pegged as scum)ZazieR wrote:Also, the scum:
-Saber
-Kill
-Hohum
-Peace
I'm having doubts between 2 players for the fifth spot.
Not as suspicious. At least he's probably not a werewolf. I tried to goad him in to killing me yesterday and since that didn't happen I feel like there is a fairly low chance he's a wolf. He still could be mafia but I'm willing to look at others for now.Nikanor wrote:I have no idea why Zazie was killed, but speculating on the nightkill is probably not a good idea.
ThAdmiral, what happened to your suspicion of Scott from yesterday? Are you still suspicious of him?
Going back through the thread I found this.Nikanor wrote:Because Lynch all Lurkers is stupid.Scott wrote:Is there an actual reason why you don't like the hohum wagon?
Why the contradiction?Nikanor wrote:This game is turning into newb central. -_-;
FoS: Everyone who is lurking
Lurking is more of a scumtell in this game. Mafia-tell, specifically. If the mafia can lay low enough to not get lynched or nk'd by the werewolves, they win automatically after three days of continual lynched/nk'd townies. I tell this to the werewolves as well. It's in both the town's and werewolves' best interest for nk's to be directed at mafia. Aim for the lurkers, and you will be more likely to hit mafia, werewolves.
Actually, my main intention with that post was to get some of the lurkers to speak up, as well as to direct the wolves to kill off some of the more anti-town members of our town.Scott wrote:nik: Late D1, we had a discussion how you didn't like the hohum wagon and through lynch all lurkers was stupid.
Nikanor wrote:Because Lynch all Lurkers is stupid.Scott wrote: Is there an actual reason why you don't like the hohum wagon?
Going back through the thread I found this.
Why the contradiction?Nikanor wrote: This game is turning into newb central. -_-;
FoS: Everyone who is lurking
Lurking is more of a scumtell in this game. Mafia-tell, specifically. If the mafia can lay low enough to not get lynched or nk'd by the werewolves, they win automatically after three days of continual lynched/nk'd townies. I tell this to the werewolves as well. It's in both the town's and werewolves' best interest for nk's to be directed at mafia. Aim for the lurkers, and you will be more likely to hit mafia, werewolves.
If possible, I'd like for hohum to show up and start playing the game. If that's not possible, I'd like for a replacement. If that isn't possible, then I might go for a hohum deadline lynch if we can't find anyone better to lynch.Scott wrote:So today you would still rather lynch someone more active than hohum?
Town discussion cannot continue effectively with Sabre's "lynch me now statements". He began to actively scum hunt more but I was away on the deadline day to change my vote. Scott hammered and night fell before I could respond to your posts.DTM wrote: Scum hunt now and I'll unvote.
Pretty sure I elaborated on this plenty yesterday. Considering Hohum didn't get lynched that means at least one faction wasn't pushing him. It would've been an easy kill of a townie, so someone(s) with role knowledge didn't want him dead.Toro wrote:Any real reason for this vote Shotty?Shotty to the Body wrote:Vote Hohum
I think your logic is flawed here, Shotty. It would be pretty easy for scum to blend in with the town by bussing their partner under Lynch all Liars/Lurkers if they thought he was going to be lynched. In that case, if he does flip scum, I'd look at the players who voted hohum without much reasoning. i.e. Toro and Scott.Shotty wrote:Considering Hohum didn't get lynched that means at least one faction wasn't pushing him. It would've been an easy kill of a townie, so someone(s) with role knowledge didn't want him dead.
Why bus when Saber gave them an easy lynch? There aren't any PRs besides seer and he wouldnt've dropped tells on D1 so I just used townie.Nikanor wrote:I think your logic is flawed here, Shotty. It would be pretty easy for scum to blend in with the town by bussing their partner under Lynch all Liars/Lurkers if they thought he was going to be lynched. In that case, if he does flip scum, I'd look at the players who voted hohum without much reasoning. i.e. Toro and Scott.Shotty wrote:Considering Hohum didn't get lynched that means at least one faction wasn't pushing him. It would've been an easy kill of a townie, so someone(s) with role knowledge didn't want him dead.
Also, why did you assume it would be an easy kill of a 'townie,' specifically?
I need to look into DTM's iso for interactions with Zazie and saber; I might be able to find something there. Right now, I think that answering Zazie's questions after he died was decidedly pro-town (unless he thought he couldn't get away with not answering them, which I doubt), but I want to look into his reasoning behind defending saber.
Bussing probably wouldn't be the best term. Distancing would be a better term. If hohum had a smart team, his partner(s) would keep their vote on hohum throughout day one, then, when saber flipped town, would bus hohum into oblivion on subsequent days, in an attempt to look very town on subsequent days.Shotty wrote:Why bus when Saber gave them an easy lynch? There aren't any PRs besides seer and he wouldnt've dropped tells on D1 so I just used townie.
so are you saying that hohum's scummy behavior of day 1 should be ignored because he's lurking? Because he's done plenty of stuff that I'd lynch active players for, and letting him be replaced is basically ignoring all of that.Nikanor wrote:If possible, I'd like for hohum to show up and start playing the game. If that's not possible, I'd like for a replacement. If that isn't possible, then I might go for a hohum deadline lynch if we can't find anyone better to lynch.Scott wrote:So today you would still rather lynch someone more active than hohum?
besides the fact that, you know, flavor-wise, everyone's sleeping?peacesells wrote:Well..I really hate the way they handle night phases here. I don't see any reason why we should not be able to continue to discuss the game during that phase.
Well, peacesells is an insomniac, good to know.hasdgfas wrote:besides the fact that, you know, flavor-wise, everyone's sleeping?peacesells wrote:Well..I really hate the way they handle night phases here. I don't see any reason why we should not be able to continue to discuss the game during that phase.
Next week this will be true as I will be working the graveyard shift.Toro wrote:Well, peacesells is an insomniac, good to know.hasdgfas wrote:besides the fact that, you know, flavor-wise, everyone's sleeping?peacesells wrote:Well..I really hate the way they handle night phases here. I don't see any reason why we should not be able to continue to discuss the game during that phase.
No, I just don't believe in Lynch all Lurkers policy.hasdgfas wrote:so are you saying that hohum's scummy behavior of day 1 should be ignored because he's lurking? Because he's done plenty of stuff that I'd lynch active players for, and letting him be replaced is basically ignoring all of that.Nikanor wrote:If possible, I'd like for hohum to show up and start playing the game. If that's not possible, I'd like for a replacement. If that isn't possible, then I might go for a hohum deadline lynch if we can't find anyone better to lynch.Scott wrote:So today you would still rather lynch someone more active than hohum?
