Ok, iso of Far Cry makes him less likely to be scum with zwet, imo. He has a few tussles with him here and there that seem genuine, and even though his level of contribution hasn't been great, the attacks leading up to his vote at least seem consistent (mild dispute->FOS->vote).
hohum on the other didn't really say much to or about zwet for a majority of the day. Here is all he says in reference to him day 1:
hohum wrote:zwet is a liability in every game he ever plays in. He's an automatic policy lynch in my book because of the fact that he purposefully cultivates his persona so that nobody can get an accurate read on him.
If mislynches weren't such a huge deal in a 7P setup I'd be pushing for his lynch too.
I haven't decided if his play is any scummier than usual yet. I need better reads on certain people before if I decide lynching him on policy is a safe bet or not.
I'll follow up with opinions on the rest of the players here after a quick reread.
(weak attack with an out that he needs to do more research. that never comes btw.)
and
hohum wrote:I think you need to coordinate the lynch fast as hell. I'm not 100% on anyone right now but I'd rather see zwet lynched over hiphop.
If you want to change wagons, do it fast. I'll stick around and toss my vote on as long as I possibly can.
This seems more like town hohum, and is one of my biggest hangups on him being scum.
and
hohum wrote:A large part of my demotivation has to do with his presence in this game. I requested that this setup be run again and I was /in the game before he was. When I saw he signed up I asked him not to /in himself; however, he knows the mod IRL.
I just simply don't like him, for better or worse. He's an automatic policy lynch for me.
There's no reason other than meta that I prefer a zwet lynch to a hiphop lynch. My reads on hiphop are pretty null.
I actively dislike zwet, to the point that I don't really care if he flips town or not. He needs to be bounced out of this game.
unvote, vote zwet
One question I'd like answered here is what meta reasons did you vote for him here?
And that's it apart from his poem. I think the perception that hohum had anything to do with zwet getting lynched is horribly wrong. He basically went along with the flow. I believe that he really doesn't like zwet, so I could definitely see him as scum just bussing him for the hell of it.
A few other points from recent posts I'd like to address:
hiphop wrote:If he waits until tomorrow, and we don’t lynch scum today, the scum could claim cop too. There is no proof either way.
You would just have to assess the cop claims and see which is more valid. However, I'm thinking about if the cop claiming today is a good idea or not. Let me think on it some more and I might back you.
hiphop wrote:Whatever he does he should not attempt to save the cop, otherwise we will lose.
Yeah, I'm sure he knows that he cannot protect the cop.
hohum wrote:I don't like the fact that VP is actively shutting down potential wagons
hohum wrote:It's not so much that you won't join the wagon that bothers me it's that you're trying to actively discourage a hiphop wagon without providing sound reasoning or any of the ISO analysis you promised.
Ok, first notice these quotes about how I'm stopping his wagon, which he then admits is bullshit:
hohum wrote:My attempt to wagon hiphop at the beginning of the day was a bluff but hiphop should have been the one to call me on that, not you.
That makes no fucking sense at all. You should be hunting scum not starting bad wagons for the sake of it. I fail to see how me wanting to actually find scum rather than waist time with a wagon on someone who is obvtown makes me scum....unless you are simply reaching for reasons because you see me as a threat to you right now.
hohum wrote:A) Baltar opportunistically busing Zwet
This completely wrong. What was opportunistic about joining that wagon at a time when I had no reason to do so otherwise? You on the other hand had no choice once I joined the wagon because that would have sealed his fate no matter what.
hohum wrote:B) Introducing diversion tactics. I've noticed you're the most vocal about the busing ploy. Trying to cover your tracks, mm
Here's a clue: zwet was bussed. Unless you are trying to dispute that fact. I think you don't like that line of thought because you look like the most obviously suspicious.
hohum wrote:C) Leading the town around all day long yesterday.
This makes me scum how? Surely I don't have some magic wand that controls people. Don't forget that I made the correct play at the end of the day as well. Do you feel that my contributions to this game have been unhelpful to the town? If so, please go into detail.
hohum wrote:D) Proactively tearing wagons down.
Shitty wagons that you admit have no good reasoning, yes, I have no problem claiming up to that.
hohum wrote:You're quite actively lurking. You have had 48 hours now to deliver on promised content. You better have written a novel by now.
This is a completely bullshit argument to make when you are providing exactly 0% in significant scumhunting. Your claim to fame today is a bad wagon, a pretty weak ass case on me, and saying that we have no reason to analyze day 1. You are scum.
Vote: hohum
(ten bucks says he now attempts to call this OMGUS)
Far Cry wrote:Bn probably is doc (I'm 100% he's town, though) but you never answered my question.
How can I answer a question that is based on misinformation and makes no sense? I don't know why the doc should claim because he already claimed. is that a satisfactory answer to you?
