Mini 837 - Stratego Mafia! (Game Over!)
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Actually, that could leave us in a 1 mafia, 1 SK/Vig, 2 town endgame. Even though I am a vigilante, this will be a bad result from the town perspective, as I will probably be lynched to let mafia win.
A better plan is for us to no-lynch today, then;
1. Hoopla vig Hoopla
2. Ortolan protect Hoopla
3. Alamaster inspect Vaya
4. Gorrad does not defuse EB bomb
This way, if I die, it proves ortolan is scum. If I don't, it confirms ortolan, we only have one kill which makes it safe to lynch me with 5 alive.
Hmm, although, if I were an SK I could just say this, shoot someone else and hope mafia hit someone else and get 4 player endgame which gives me a shot at the end. Maybe I am the best lynch today.
Sorry, my plan is rubbish.-
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Okay, we lynch me today, then we go to night with 5 players. When I flip town vigilante you follow my plan. If I'm the SK, yay town, it doesn't matter.
1. Ortolan protects Gorrad
2. Alamaster investigates Vaya
3. Gorrad does not defuse bomb EB
The only way Gorrad can die is if Ortolan is scum. But he would not shoot Gorrad, as he would be outing himself. This forces whoever mafia is to kill ortolan, Vaya or Alamaster.
Gorrad and EB then choose the next lynch as they are the most town, although if I were to choose; ortolan, Vaya then Alamaster is my preferential order.
Even this comes down to guesswork though - I cannot find any autowin for town. Sorry, I thought I had it this morning when I was eating breakfast.-
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Why would I claim vig, when I could have got EB lynched and a free pass into lylo?AlmasterGM wrote:Why would I have claimed cop if I was scum? Nobody suspected me at all before. There's zero reason for me to invent that claim.
Why would ortolan claim JOAT when he didn't need to, with results on my targets?
There's plenty of wifom going around. The fact we'll probably lynch each other because of it suggests the game is balanced enough, with a seemeingly excess in town power.
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It's like having two sane cops, or two doctors in a set-up. It's almost not any more advantagous for the town having the extra role, as they're likely to be lynched thinking one is lying.
In fact, in charter's other game, he had two cops. Granted, it was a 'cops and robbers' game. But still, I guess it makes the 'no doubles' possibility a little less likelier.-
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I totally suspected you.AlmasterGM wrote:Why would I have claimed cop if I was scum? Nobody suspected me at all before. There's zero reason for me to invent that claim.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I agree with those two setup options.
Even so, though, it doesn't seem like there is any foolproof way for the town to win. Every plan revolves around trusting somebody. What I think we should do, therefore, is all create a trust --> suspect list. We can then create a plan that optimizes trustworthiness against potency (e.g., if we decide Gorrad is the most trustworthy, we'll go with the best plan that doesn't need to verify his role). Here's my list, for example:
ortolan
Gorrad
EB
Hoopla
Vaya
Are we in agreement? I don't think there's any other way to do this.-
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How about this:
1) Lynch Vaya
2) Hoopla Vig ortolan
3) ortolan protects Gorrad.
4) The scum have to target either myself or Hoopla (they can't kill EB, it'll kill them).
5) Gorrad and EB are left in the endgame with either myself or Hoopla.
Personally, I don't think this is the optimal choice because Gorrad's PR isn't as useful as mine, but since people don't trust me as much as Gorrad and there may be a Godfather, it seems to be the best option.-
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Ortolan, while we're trying to make the game 100% winnable for town, your cooperation in telling us what abilities you have left would be fantastic.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I have a doctor ability left, I thought I implied that already.
Also there is clearly nothing close to an autowin for the town here.
I must say Hoops' contention that "oh he might be a godfather" is complete rubbish. The only reason she has for suspecting me is that my role contradicts hers (and she claimed at a time when there was no evidence of my role to place her in bad light). The fact that she then ignores a claimed cop innocent on me is just further proof she is not looking for scum but is looking for a way to justify her own claimed role.
Vaya, who do you suspect?Currently modding Mole Mafia: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=20529
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