I think the lack of hammer is a null-tell (although I acknowledge I'm hardly an unbiased observer.) There is a strong scum-motivation to not hammer in either case. If I'm hypo-scum, the obvious motivation is to wiggle out of hammering a teammate. As a townie, I cannot help but wonder if there was scum on the wagon who was worried about BM's change of heart. He's been the most dominant force in the game, and when I popped town, there is a good chance he would have come down hard on the people who jumped on the wagon towards the end.
What's the point? Regardless of my alignment, there is a strong scum motivation to quickly unvote after BM made his (in)famous "zomg she's prolly townie!" post.
@everyone who unvoted me after BM unvoted me: I'd like to see a detailed explanation as to why you unvoted.
@DT:
Is there any reason you didn't address this? I am still waiting for your reply.YB wrote:Also, your 635 is just wrong on different levels. First of all, as Nikanor points out, very fishy placement. Secondly, you weren't under pressure day 1, and claimed to be town...yet you say you are "...brimming full with information between players from my activity..." Exactly what information would a (alleged) mislynch of you give town? Thirdly, you claimed VT. When you did this, there 1 hour and 7 minutes left before the lynch, so its HIGHLY unlikely that there would have been enough time to get everyone to agree to lynch you and vote accordingly. This make your offer seem disingenuous.
Actually, I said that CSL's defense doesn't make sense if he's scum AND Mae is town. Masons don't necessarily know each other's alignments...but if he was a scum mason and she was a town mason, he'd have *some* incentive to keep her alive, but not that strong of one. Again, I don't see why a scum CSL would try so hard to keep Mae alive in this scenario.DT wrote:1. An unavoidable link between CSL and Mae which would test if either of you are scum. You said that CSL's defence doesn't make sense in a scum POV. It does in any linked POV, whether mason or lovers. You complain about being attacked about this link, but still bring it up as your defence. Ideally you would want to go for a CSL/YB lynch because Mae claimed PR. PRs make or break the game for the town.
Regarding lovers, I am not sure. I thought lovers had to be the same alignment. Is this not always the case?
One other thing, but here you assume AGAIN that Mae is town. Maybe I am being paranoid, but this is the SECOND time I have read something you posted and it seems like you know that she is town.
Yes, one ginormous problem. What if they are scummates? Or, (less likely but still possible), what if Mae is scum, knew Kitty was town, and made a good guess that she did nothing last night?DT wrote:Given the fact that she said Kitty did nothing, if Kitty supports this then Mae's claim of tracker is confirmed. A mafia tracker is yet to be determined but should be kept in mind. Any problems?
Ew, this is some pretty gross logic. Neto told the truth...okay, good. But his truthfulness doesn't imply anything about Mae's truthfulness. (Also, I assume you mean D2, since Neto's doc claim wasn't verified til the morning of D2, right?)DT wrote:Also why are you still adament about a Mae lynch for day 1 still when Neto's doc claim was verified through NKs.
Firstly, I explained why I thought BM's behavior was scummy. Why do you keep ignoring that?DT wrote:because you are attacking BM not because he was scummy, but because he was abrasive to CSL in his posts. That is not scum hunting, that was lecturing someone about their posts and then voting him because he was mean. This is also known as fake scum hunting and appealing to the town emotion. Your retort avoids this critical issue.
Secondly, your whole second and third sentences here are a complete mischar of what I said.
Thirdly, the retort was pointing out the catch-22 you were putting me in. Also, this "critical issue" is based on a mischaracterization...so aside from me saying that what you are saying is blatantly wrong, I cannot think of anything else to say.
Lol...that question is just a *tiny* bit unfair. Btw, can you prove that she IS the tracker? I didn't think so...DT wrote: Again what is there to suggest Mae isn't a town tracker. If you can prove to me that Mae is mafia fake claiming or she is mafia tracker then prove it.
Anyway, I gotta run...I have to catch up on the most recent page of posting, so I'll post more asap.