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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:57 am

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^^^ lynch this guy.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:57 am

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first post fail.

Obviously I mean DJ.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:09 am

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^^ why? is it my voting pattern?
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:55 am

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Unvote


I still don't like this. At all. It makes my spider sense all tingly. However, for the moment it has brought a few other things to light.

If we're looking at a 8-3-1 or 9-3 setup tomorrow has the potential to be lylo which means this could be a ballsy as all getout gambit. The ONLY scenario, which I think is unlikely, is an 8-2-2 sooo.

@Tjoe: Why Faraday?

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Starbuck - Neighbor
Faraday - ? (Received Invention)
SpyreX - Awesome
Tjoe Min Ja - Inventor
don_johnson - ?
Boxman - ?
Shadow Knight - ?
MordyS - ?

So, based on the theory of "confirmable roles" and the idea that a scum inventor in this setup makes even less sense than the town inventor:

Faraday
SpyreX
DJ
Boxman
SK
MordyS

So, with a little energon and a lot of luck THAR BE SCUMS above. Eliminating myself for being awesome.

Faraday
DJ
Box
SK
MordyS

Now, I really, really doubt that both Faraday and DJ are scum together based on current events. Which means we can do another parse:

Faraday/DJ
Box
SK
MordyS

Now, things get interesting:

Mordy had been giving me pretty solid vibes early on but thats faded a bit. His last post may have, in fact, a true scum slip - "I'd be happy to pull the trigger on
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inventor." Further, if Mordy is scum then it all but confirms Starbuck as town.

Boxman has been very underwhelming. His reaction to the early wagon could go either way - however, the wall of finger pointing at the voters is suspect. Post 7 iso is off. However, post 9 with the pool as sits and the kills doesn't make a lot of sense as a scum-list - with one major caveat: if Boxman is scum I'd wager heavy on DJ being scum as well. Further, I'd be surprised if the Tjoe business was a bus - so Tjoe would be confirmed again as well.

Then there is SK. Aside from that massive wall on Faraday with a town read there has been very little substance. There is a quick and strong turn around on Tjoe that I don't like (although this could be confirmation bias). Again, not seeing a bus here so marks for Tjoe-town if SK-scum. Further, I COULD actually see a DJ-SK pairing in a beautiful bus love triangle.

So:

Today I'm not down with the Faraday/DJ knot - I personally think they're both town (with Faraday a slight leader in the town 9000).

I'm betting hard on there being at least one, if not two scum in the group of Mordy, Boxman, SK.

Logic says Boxman is the best lynch.
Gut says SK is the best lynch.

Today is a gut day.

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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:41 am

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Just read Boxman + SK both in isolation. Boxman in iso actually made me feel better about my vote. He's contributed very little, and his leads tend to be either metagaming stuff (like on Starbuck) or other non-content posts (look at how quick he jumps targets too -- it's like he's taking special care to stay off people's radars).
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:44 am

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SpyreX wrote:Mordy had been giving me pretty solid vibes early on but thats faded a bit. His last post may have, in fact, a true scum slip - "I'd be happy to pull the trigger on
the
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Btw, I feel good about Faraday. If Tjoe is telling the truth (and I believe he is after Faraday's confirm), if Faraday was scum, he would benefit to conceal his acquisition of the item. Since he's the only one who got one, if he remained silent about it, Tjoe would've been a quick lynch. He spoke up though, which stayed the Tjoe lynch, which suggests he's townie. I could be wrong on this read - I'm typing it up in the middle of class - but it looks ironclad to me.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:10 am

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Now I'm being voted for unvoting a confirmable role? Ok. If that's a scum move, then I am scum all day long.

With Tjoe effectively being a confirmable townie, my next suspect is DJ. There will be a PBPA of him tomorrow. My gut is screaming that Spyre is scum, but I know that's simply because he can't seem to stop attacking me.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:15 am

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Yes, that is the entirety of the reason I am voting you. Alas, undone.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:13 pm

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@Spyrex-478 : I think most people here got a town read on Faraday... who think that Faraday is a scum?
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:48 pm

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@Mord:

The only problem with that is that a Tjoe lynch today would absolutely mean a Faraday lynch tomorrow IF Tjoe said he gave it to Faraday and he didn't speak up.

So, not ironclad but I like the thought process.

@Tjoe:

Fair enough. Just wanted your input.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:59 pm

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I'm good with either a Mordy or a SK lynch. I am not game for my own for obvious reasons. It's late now, but I'll see who's more suspicious tomorrow.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:11 pm

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Boxman wrote:It's late now, but I'll see who's more suspicious tomorrow.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:56 am

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btw....where is JereiC?
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:07 am

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SpyreX wrote: Lets look at our list of peeps and play some parse:

Starbuck - Neighbor
Faraday - ? (Received Invention)
SpyreX - Awesome
Tjoe Min Ja - Inventor
don_johnson - ?
Boxman - ?
Shadow Knight - ?
MordyS - ?
What am I, chopped liver?

That said, I like your analysis. I don't get why you're giving Mordy the pass, though. Between the actual scum slips and his recent posts, he strikes me as the best choice today.

Not sure I get you connecting DJ to SK and Box, though. Can you expand on that?
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:03 am

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How in the hell did I miss you when you are in the MIDDLE of the list I copied?

That says something though. I missed you and didn't even notice. Because you're not near active enough. :P From what I gather you strike me as moderately town - the only real tie is Tjoe whom by nature of the beast I'm leanin hard town on.

Mordy isn't getting a PASS, persay. I just like the other two more. My guitar wouldn't weep if he were to get the rope.

As for the connections:

Boxman - DJ: Look early on at the speed wagon on box. DJ jumps on (with "reason) and when Box flips the power OMGUS DJ is let off the hook. Further, when Box gives his read of the game DJ is mentioned specifically for that and later posts giving a better vibe.

DJ-SK: This would be the "bus" in the setup. DJ has followed me in my SK hunt without a lot of additional input which is odd. However, SK flipped and attacked him for following my "crap case" when I would be the catalyst. However, if sentiment turned towards DJ getting the noose for that behavior that would go a long way to making SK look better.

I dont think I tied SK-Box?

NOW, looking at the above the obvious question is "why not DJ?"

Which I thought about too. However, DJ is scummy by association and not multi-directional in case 1 AND if its a bus well SK is still a good call.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:04 am

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Yeah, I haven't had any scum slips. But thx for playing.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 am

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I have to admit, just by looking at Mordy's posts, I don't have much of a case on him aside from his vote early on and a few things here and there. Other than that, I see him as neutral-town.

SK is a whole other story. Aside from his monster post on faraday, which no one is going to read ever, especially since it is a town read, most of SK's posts are short with some content. Honestly, given the choice between Mordy and SK, I think SK looks scummier.

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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:29 pm

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Boxman wrote:I have to admit, just by looking at Mordy's posts, I don't have much of a case on him aside from his vote early on and a few things here and there. Other than that, I see him as neutral-town.

SK is a whole other story. Aside from his monster post on faraday, which no one is going to read ever, especially since it is a town read, most of SK's posts are short with some content. Honestly, given the choice between Mordy and SK, I think SK looks scummier.

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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:41 pm

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VoteCount!

TJoe Min Ja-(2)- Starbuck, don_johnson
DonJohnson-(2)- Tjoe Min Ja, Faraday
Shadow Knight-(2)- SpyerX, Boxman
MordyS-(1)- JereIC
Boxman-(1)- MordyS

Not Voting-(1)- Shadow Knight
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:41 pm

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@SpyerX : what do you think about JereiC?

@JereiC : who is the top 3 suspect scum IYO?
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:32 am

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start talking JereiC....I need more reading from you
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:09 am

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Tjoe Min Ja wrote:start talking JereiC....I need more reading from you
I would have posted last night saying I would review the thread and post my thoughts in the morning, but those kinds of posts seem to piss off Mordy and Doombunny's ghost. :wink:

My top suspects are Mordy (I think I've made that clear), Shadow Knight (not much content except the Faraday town read) and don_johnson (bandwagoning). Starbuck is my fourth - everyone else seems to think she's town even though the main point of her role is that she's unconfirmed (if I've missed something that confirms her as town, and not just as a neighbor, please point it out so I can stop reading her posts with suspicion).

I've been re-reading Boxman, and honestly his early posts strike me as inexperienced town more than scum putting up a wall of FOS, so I've changed my mind on that part of SpyreX's analysis. Faraday still strikes me as town too, although I don't put a lot of weight on the fact he confirmed you.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:31 am

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Starbuck isn't "clear" but very little adds up with Starbuck scum killing her neighbor when the natrual extension is putting a whole MESS of suspicion on ones self.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:36 am

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SpyreX wrote:Starbuck isn't "clear" but very little adds up with Starbuck scum killing her neighbor when the natrual extension is putting a whole MESS of suspicion on ones self.
I'm confused by this statement, what do you mean by this?
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:51 am

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He means that you're a confirmed neighbor. Your neighbor was nightkilled. It wouldn't make sense for you to kill your own neighbor, when the alternative (killing someone else), would keep more attention off you and your role.
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