Mini 845 - The Amish Village (Game Over)

[VP Baltar]

haha, what is even more humorous is that I read "red" as "rosso"....need coffee...

[SerialClergyman]

Sorry, I did indeed use Red as Ray. My bad.

I'll also switch to him before deadline, but 1.5 days is enough to give it a whirl. And if he isn't lynched he might fire up and get his townie on.

By the way, if you guys have questions on my take let me know, I realise I didn't write a 400 page post and probably left a lot out, I just wanted to get most of my reads out before night.

[RayFrost]

Sorry, I did indeed use Red as Ray. My bad.

I'll also switch to him before deadline, but 1.5 days is enough to give it a whirl. And if he isn't lynched he might fire up and get his townie on.

By the way, if you guys have questions on my take let me know, I realise I didn't write a 400 page post and probably left a lot out, I just wanted to get most of my reads out before night.

Better I be lynched. oh, btw... it was fun playing with fluffy in 815 while she was there. tell her I said that, if you don't mind.

Anyway... better I be lynched because I'll be a liability at any point close to lylo, since the scumminess from here will remain. Better to let the scum have the mislynch on me early over lylo, y'gitme?

[RayFrost]

Wait... if I'm scum, fishy is scum? that's confuzzling...

second paragraph feels like WIFOM.

I can't see why you would post this as town, while ignoring practically everything else in the game - the post he was responding to wasn't hugely noteworthy (in the context of his own impending lynch and his lack of published suspicions). FMPOV, this feels like a weak, WIFOMy attempt to link me with him, after magnus made that link. Even for those who don't know my alignment, I think it looks like a flail intended to confuse the town as to Ray's partners.

how would I be linking myself with you by having him explain how you and I would be linked?

[SerialClergyman]

Zzz if you're town suck it up and fight for it.

I'll pass on the message to fluffy

[Fishythefish]

how would I be linking myself with you by having him explain how you and I would be linked?

Thing is, it doesn't read like you want an explanation. More that you want to establish a link. This is also more consistent with the way this is the only thing you pick up on, when there have been many more important things in this game you have failed to comment on.
It's possible it's just me being paranoid about a player I think is scum trying to create links with me.

[SerialClergyman]

Forgot to answer fishy - I think he's more likely to be town because I would rule out much of what people find scummy about him and the general shape of the wagon and position seems like town to me. (Ie, default deadline lynch rarely = scum)

[Kairyuu]

@Ray: Then hammer yourself. We have 2 people saying they will hammer you at deadline. May as well save them the trouble if you're not gonna bother resisting the lynch.

[Ojanen]

Kairyuu picking up on a slight scumtell and running over the top with it totally agrees with my meta on kaitown.

That agrees to an extent with my Kai-townmeta as well as my Kai-scum-meta.
He said in the scum qt of an ended game (Adel's beta hydra) that he'll latch onto someone early like this, didn't think it was gonna be problematic considering he has plenty of town meta of doing this and at least 2 mislynches could be likely gotten out of the deal.
Kai, asked for your comment on 393 but you ignored it.

The argument about le chat being scummy because of posting reasoning assuming Ray town and falsely putting Magnus behind Ray lynch isn't half bad. Speedlynching right now though doesn't seem good/possible because of too limited interaction on it, and claiming and stuff isn't an option because of his absence.

Would have been cool to have slightly more meat on SC's le chat vote - at this stage of the day+wagon by merely posting "I agree with magnus" as the reasoning I can't judge if he's as serious about the push as his rhetoric suggests, cause the element of persuasion is missing.

Had an awful day and will have another one tomorrow.
Likely won't get back before deadline after this.
I have had an edgeless, porridge-textured continuous "somewhat scummy" read on Ray/MM. Recently I don't agree with the apathy of Ray being null. It fits the pressured info-limiting scum archetype. And I actually agree with, eek, Fishy about the tone of of the Ray post he explains in 530. Ray's a decent lynch.

unvote, vote: RayFrost

(L-1)

Good night fellas.

[SerialClergyman]

Magnus, our (your?) wagon appears to be destined to be a sideshow. With ray not prepared to post I'm ok with a hammer, do you mind?

[VP Baltar]

Poor Rosso flaked and is going to miss all the fun. HAMMAH!!!!

[Percy]

It's deadline where I am.

Vote: RayFrost

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[Amished]

Mod Votecount 1-20

RayFrost (7): Herodotus; Kairyuu; VP Baltar; FishytheFish; le Chat; Ojanen; Percy
Kairyuu (1): Chamber
le Chat (2): magnus_orion; SerialClergyman;

Not voting (2): Rosso_Carne; RayFrost;

Rayfrost has been lynched.

Rosso Carne will be replaced. 72 hours after I get a replacement the night will end, and I will update this thread when I find one for him.

It is now twilight. If you care to make use of it, fine with me. I'll probably close twilight tonight before I go to bed and post RayFrost's role. (6 hours? Not much of a twilight, but I want to get this game moving again; the activity level has been depressing )

If you have night actions, I'll start accepting them now if you care to send them in to me.

[SerialClergyman]

twinkle twinkle little star...

[SerialClergyman]

who's taking bets on ray's alignment? Anyone want to stand up and say definitely scum or town?

[magnus_orion]

Magnus, our (your?) wagon appears to be destined to be a sideshow. With ray not prepared to post I'm ok with a hammer, do you mind?

I'm always against hammering people I'm not sure are scum. It is of course too late now. The flip should be insightful, at least.

[SerialClergyman]

Really? I have been sure I was voting scum maybe twice ever.

My new thinking is that if you can narrow down the people you'd hammer on D1 to a group of say 60-70% of the participants, you're doing well.

What are your thoughts on a flip? I'm still thinking town, but I'm genuinely interested to hear predictions.

[SerialClergyman]

Really? I have been sure I was voting scum maybe twice ever.

(And once I was wrong )

[VP Baltar]

I wouldn't be voting him if I didn't think he'd flip scum. That being said, and as you stated, there are no definites in mafia and the best you can do is go with what you feel is the best decision (especially on Day 1).

[Amished]

Sajin replaces Rosso Carne effective immediately (and can post during this twilight phase). The night will end on the midnight of the 16th (3 days + 3:30 hours from now. Whatever, like 75 hours, you do the math

Thanks a lot Sajin!

Also, I'll take bets on RayFrost's flip

[Kairyuu]

@Ojanen:

That agrees to an extent with my Kai-townmeta as well as my Kai-scum-meta.
He said in the scum qt of an ended game (Adel's beta hydra) that he'll latch onto someone early like this, didn't think it was gonna be problematic considering he has plenty of town meta of doing this and at least 2 mislynches could be likely gotten out of the deal.

Kai's scum-meta = Kai's town-meta. I latch, and I don't let go unless I find something better to latch to. S'what I do.

Kai, asked for your comment on 393 but you ignored it.

Yes ma'am. On it right now.

-reads post-

Mmk. Not seeing anything I can rebut there. Everything you said I did is correct, and the only thing I disagree with is finding it odd. If someone calls something serious, I am not going to assume they mean something else, I am going to assume they are telling the truth. Therefore, it's scummy enough for a lynch. Not seeing a problem here.

[SerialClergyman]

Give us some odds then, Amished

[Sajin]

Yo!

Reading.

[Kairyuu]

Yo!

Reading.

Totally stalking me. What is this, 5 games in a row?

[Amished]

Gonna lock the thread in 2 hours, which is when the night will start. I will post odds of Ray's alignment then.

9th party is 4,000,000,000 : 1 though, if that makes you feel better.