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@Gorrad, why do you think Yank is scummier than Jazz?
I'd like to see also.Crazy wrote:Not drastically important. I just wanted to see why you thought that way.Gorrad wrote:Is that important, Crazy? Do you disagree?
With a claim that, it now seems apparent that Neopi had no way of being able to reliably back up without other known info, I don't think it entirely unreasonable for fellow scum to be able to get on her wagon in such a case.YankCane151 wrote:So Neopi was scum. I'm assuming that no scum were on Neopi's wagon, since I can't see scum putting their godfather at risk. SC's hammer of Monkey is suspicous, at the same time however, Monkey did look scummy, so I don't know what to make of that.
Which makes me think our day killer is a third party, and not pro town. Whether you believed Neopi or not, it'd be interesting to see the "results".semioldguy wrote:YankCane151 wrote:So Neopi was scum. I'm assuming that no scum were on Neopi's wagon, since I can't see scum putting their godfather at risk. SC's hammer of Monkey is suspicous, at the same time however, Monkey did look scummy, so I don't know what to make of that.
For a similar reason I am disappointed that our day-killer chose to kill Neopi before Neopi was even given the chance to claim results from last night.
Going from Neopi to chamber I regret doing as I ended up engaging myself in an exercise in futility, but it's a tad weird to me that you mention going my going off chamber to vote MonkeyMan576. For me to stay on chamber and nobody else to switch would have resulted in a no lynch. And yes, MonkeyMan576 was suspicious. So was Neopi, but I am not a double voter.Crazy wrote:Considering Neopi flipped scum, I'm finding SC's switch from Neopi to chamber to Monkey very scummy.
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As I said, Starbuck COULD have been bussing the GF D1. At the moment, I'm assuming to the contrary.Gorrad wrote:MM had scum on his wagon
Neopi was scum
There's probably scum on the Starbuck wagon (Or starbuck was bussing the GF)
I think Yank is scummier than Jazz.
Well, a switch from a scum wagon to a town wagon always is scummy, but having chamber as a median point makes it more suspicious to me because it makes it look less obvious.StrangerCoug wrote:Going from Neopi to chamber I regret doing as I ended up engaging myself in an exercise in futility, but it's a tad weird to me that you mention going my going off chamber to vote MonkeyMan576. For me to stay on chamber and nobody else to switch would have resulted in a no lynch. And yes, MonkeyMan576 was suspicious. So was Neopi, but I am not a double voter.Crazy wrote:Considering Neopi flipped scum, I'm finding SC's switch from Neopi to chamber to Monkey very scummy.
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Why, after voting Neopi, would you choose to lynch MM instead? You voted Neopi for a reason, then chose to lynch MM at the last second? would you like to explain?StrangerCoug wrote:Going from Neopi to chamber I regret doing as I ended up engaging myself in an exercise in futility, but it's a tad weird to me that you mention going my going off chamber to vote MonkeyMan576. For me to stay on chamber and nobody else to switch would have resulted in a no lynch. And yes, MonkeyMan576 was suspicious. So was Neopi, but I am not a double voter.Crazy wrote:Considering Neopi flipped scum, I'm finding SC's switch from Neopi to chamber to Monkey very scummy.
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Less obvious my butt, given what I got for voting chamber for the reasoning I did.Crazy wrote:Well, a switch from a scum wagon to a town wagon always is scummy, but having chamber as a median point makes it more suspicious to me because it makes it look less obvious.StrangerCoug wrote:Going from Neopi to chamber I regret doing as I ended up engaging myself in an exercise in futility, but it's a tad weird to me that you mention going my going off chamber to vote MonkeyMan576. For me to stay on chamber and nobody else to switch would have resulted in a no lynch. And yes, MonkeyMan576 was suspicious. So was Neopi, but I am not a double voter.Crazy wrote:Considering Neopi flipped scum, I'm finding SC's switch from Neopi to chamber to Monkey very scummy.
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You say that like I got up and voted him just to make him the deadline lynch. I was one of the people yelling at him for getting up and leaving thinking the world revolved around him early in Day 1. Look back if you don't believe me. His cases on Starbuck and semioldguy were also nonsense. Neopi's only problems with me were his activity and claim.YankCane151 wrote:Why, after voting Neopi, would you choose to lynch MM instead? You voted Neopi for a reason, then chose to lynch MM at the last second? would you like to explain?StrangerCoug wrote:Going from Neopi to chamber I regret doing as I ended up engaging myself in an exercise in futility, but it's a tad weird to me that you mention going my going off chamber to vote MonkeyMan576. For me to stay on chamber and nobody else to switch would have resulted in a no lynch. And yes, MonkeyMan576 was suspicious. So was Neopi, but I am not a double voter.Crazy wrote:Considering Neopi flipped scum, I'm finding SC's switch from Neopi to chamber to Monkey very scummy.
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And yet, there you were, still going at Monkey relentlessly and, in my view, encouraging others to jump on his wagon while you were not on it yourself.Starbuck wrote:I really don't understand why there were still people on Monkey's train at the end of yesterday. I know I threw out the theory of him possibly being the Tramp, but his flavor definitely mirrored his role, no matter how scummy I found him to be acting.
Agreed, on both counts. I am inclined to think that it is quite likely that there was scum on Neopi's wagon in the circumstances, and I think that the most logical conclusion to draw from the quick daykill without any opportunity for most players to even check into the thread, let alone any opportunity to try to get information out of Neopi, is that the daykiller is not pro-town.semioldguy wrote:With a claim that, it now seems apparent that Neopi had no way of being able to reliably back up without other known info, I don't think it entirely unreasonable for fellow scum to be able to get on her wagon in such a case.
For a similar reason I am disappointed that our day-killer chose to kill Neopi before Neopi was even given the chance to claim results from last night.
This will probably sound strange, but so would I, actually. I know that I'm not scum, but I haven't picked up any scum vibes from YankCane either, so I am curious about what Gorrad sees that I haven't seen.YankCane151 wrote:I'd like to see also.
I wouldn't make that assumption. I think there is a very good chance that there was scum on the Neopi wagon.YankCane151 wrote:I'm assuming that no scum were on Neopi's wagon, since I can't see scum putting their godfather at risk.
I would agree that it is potentially suspicious, but it is important to put one's views out there, particularly at deadline, and StrangerCougar did that, while many stayed away as the deadline drew near, and his vote on chamber was not going anywhere at that point. Maybe he set it up to switch over to Monkey at the end for precisely that reason in an effort to avoid a Neopi lynch, or maybe he genuinely thought that Monkey was the best lynch for the day. Well laid plan or legitimate decision making? Shall I drink the wine in front of me... *sigh*YankCane151 wrote:SC's hammer of Monkey is suspicous, at the same time however, Monkey did look scummy, so I don't know what to make of that.
I second this question, and add another question to Gorrad: why are you assuming that Starbuck is town? Yes, I saw your response to a prior related question, but you kind of skirted the issue. You originally said, "it's an old rule that on any town wagon, there will be at least one scum. Starbuck's wagon was one shy of MM's." You are, quite clearly, asserting that Starbuck is town with that post, but why? In your response to a question about that, you said that Starbuck "could have been bussing the GF" but that you were "assuming the contrary". Again, why are making those assumptions? It appears quite likely that we have a third party daykiller with its own agenda, after all.YankCane151 wrote:Gorrad, why do you think there was scum on the Starbuck wagon?
Ok, even if you take that logic, why are you voting me and not Jazzmyn? Both of us were voting for Starbuck, but you think Jazz is town, and I'm scum? Would you care to explain? or did you just flip a coin?Gorrad wrote: I assumed Starbuck as town because 1) The idea of a third-party daykiller is not set in stone and 2) because it doesn't really matter. Scum is likely on any wagon, it's just a town one that it's nigh-assured. Even if Starbuck was dead scum, I'd still probably have my vote where it is.
Also, what is up with this paragraph? "put your mind at ease" "think and you'll know why". Do you plan on stopping the laziness?Gorrad wrote:As I said, I don't want to answer unless it's important. Jazz, if it puts your mind at ease, I'm relying on you being town. Think and you'll know why. And if anyone thinks this is skirting the issue, it's not. It's laziness. I've been getting scum vibes from Yank, but frankly I'm tired and don't want to go through the trouble just now.
I was very M.I.A. for a long while, and didn't really support any of the major wagons. I did have a vote placed before KMD was "erased" though. (Noting in case you thought I wasn't voting AT ALL yesterday)semioldguy wrote:@Brandi
You weren't voting yesterday. Why not? Who was your top suspect yesterday?
I didn't interpret chamber's post as very polite and pro-town, as we all should know by now. He wasn't the scummiest player, but another way to express disapproval didn't come to mind. Lynch me if I know why he was killed last night.Crazy wrote:Still, I have to think SC is scum for getting of the Neopi wagon for such a ridiculous reason.