Theory time!DRK wrote: Just so everyone knows, that's L-2.
@IK
Can you think of any non-mafia motivations for EC's actions? I'm just looking for a yes or a no (I asked you specifically because your experience playing with me makes you more likely to figure out what I'm implying).
then, when nook mentioned a Jester by name, DRK said:
DRK wrote:That's what I was trying to suggest to IK.nook wrote:
I have a wild speculation that he's a Jester out to get lynched as quickly as possible.
@IK
I thought you might pick up on the fact that I said "non-mafia motivations," when I normally use "scum" almost exclusively to refer to the mafia. By non-mafia, I was trying to imply third party (perhaps one that wanted to be lynched or accumlate votes).
So DRK here admits he was trying to stir up Jester speculation.
bada-bing.
What exactly is it that makes mentioning a jester scummy? Is it the act of using the word? Is it the act of starting a conversation?
Mentioning a jester is scummy for a few possible reasons. If the "jester" is actually scum, the player could have been trying to distract from a lynch. If the "jester" is actually town, the player could have been trying to get the person lynched. Arguably those views are contradictory, but since reluctance to lynch a jester (which is surprisingly common) goes against theoretically ideal play, it's possible for a player to steer it in either direction.
Now let's examine what I was doing. I brought it up semi-privately to IK hoping he would catch the hint and not let the wagon monopolize game play. Notice I said I only wanted a yes/no answer. That was because I just wanted him to consider the possibility so he might unvote and we could check other leads without the EC wagon running away if he was jester. I guess if EC is scum, this could lead into what I typed above, but you'd have to assume EC is scum.
Nook's reference to jesters involved him direcly bringing up the possibility in thread. After nook's post, the thought was in everyone's mind. (When I brought it up, no one (not even IK like I intended) gave it a second thought.) That's what makes a jester reference bad. However, I'm not considering it a scum tell yet and it's because he said it in a way that opposed the lynch. This makes it largely dependent on EC's flip. If EC flips scum, then I think this is a very valid point against nook. If EC is anything else, I don't see a scum motivation.