Mini 872: Mafia in Belgrove - That's All Folks

[Netopalis]

A lot has happened between now and then, and I thought your reasoning may have changed. I'm not getting defensive and I'm not attacking you, I'm just asking you to explain yourself.

[Faraday]

Darkstrike_11 (3) (JereIC, kikuchiyo, Ectomancer ]
Malpascp (1) [afatchic]
crypto (3) [ Malpascp, U.N. Owen], Netapolis]
Netapolis (1) [Crypto]

Not voting: (4) [Darkstrike_11, Walrus Helmet, Gyro, Mr. Jester,]

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Day 1 deadline hits on Tuesday 10th November @ 11am GMT.

[crypto]

Neto, you just said the past page has been unproductive/worthless/whatever—that, essentially,

not

much has happened. Gyro's analysis came on page 6 (and toward the end, I believe).

It seems to me like you're trying—again—to worm your way out of suspicion, which isn't inherently bad, but you've taken to some awfully fishy-looking methods.

[Netopalis]

Ok, let me put it this way: If he FOSd me on page 6, there's no point on doing it again on page 8 unless something changed. I'm trying to get him to articulate his reasoning.

[crypto]

He didn't reassert his FoS on page 8. It's relatively clear. I feel like you are deliberately coloring your critics' posts however you like.

[Netopalis]

assuming you'd get upset @ the fos. you're being overly defensive which doesn't look good for you.

To me, this is him saying that he would renew his FOS but that he thought I would get defensive about it.

[crypto]

Yes, I knew what you were referring to. I've never seen someone renew an FoS in a Mafia game.

[Netopalis]

Then why would he mention it if he didn't want to renew it?

[Mr.Jester]

Mod: Can we get a prod on Owen please? His last post was on thursday.

[Faraday]

Prod sent

[Darkstrike_11]

arg, work at uni is getting crazy and it isnt getting any easier in the next weeks.

I don't think I can do this game justice and give it the required attention.

mod: can I request a replacement please?

[Faraday]

Thanks, looking for a replacement now.

[Faraday]

Raskol replaces Darkstrike_11, big thank you to him.

[Raskol]

Hello everyone, shouldn't take me long to get caught up.

[crypto]

Awesomely quick replacement.

[Ectomancer]

unvote

All in darkness must be driven into the light.

Sorry...it's NaNoWriMo and I'm in novel mode

Why did it get quiet? Don't wait on the replacement to speak out. Dont know what to say? Alrighty, then its time to play mafia games.

Pretend the mod just made a post that says you have to chose your lynch target in the very next post. Who would it be? (no lynch is an answer)

Mine is...

I'll tell you at the end. It's my game after all

[crypto]

Netopalis.

[Raskol]

Hello everyone, shouldn't take me long to get caught up.

I'll probably not be caught up until late tonight, actually. I have a very involved MyLo in another game right now that took more of my attention today than I thought it would. Will try to be caught up before tomorrow morning, though.

[Netopalis]

Gyro. Rather useless posts which sound mildly scummy means that even if it is a mislynch, it's not a terrible one.

[kikuchiyo]

Apparently its Raskol. I don't cut replacements slack.

[Gyro]

Gyro. Rather useless posts which sound mildly scummy means that even if it is a mislynch, it's not a terrible one.

This post screams of scum.

You're pretty much saying that it doesn't fucking matter if I'm innocent since you seem to believe my posts are useless, accusing you is useless to you apparently. If that's the mentality you believe should be done then we wouldn't have deadlines that last 2 weeks would we?

Also, quantity isn't quality. I haven't really seen any post from you that was by any means helpful. A failed accusation and backtracking your words. Nice resume partner.

Quit being moronic. Looking for any reason to vote someone with piece a garbage reasons. He accused me better get him outta the way. *sob*

stronger fos

actually, I dislike stalling.

vote: Netopalis

Didn't wanna vote considering it looks like I did it because you accused me but remember it's only because I called you out. So yeh.

[walrus helmet]

If I HAD to choose right now... malpascp. Speaking of which, has it been long enough for a prod?

[Mr.Jester]

If I had to choose right now, I'd go with the lynch all lurkers policy. Unfortunately that results in a tie between Malpascp, Darkstrike/Raskol and Owen.

[crypto]

@walrus helmet

Demonstrating my preferred style of unvoting.

Why did you feel the need to do so?

Also, what do you think of Kiku, Ecto, and Neto? (Awesomely intuitive nicknames, by the way.)

@Ectomancer

Why does the prolonged exchange make Neto and I look like we're either both scum or both not scum?

You seem to think there's merit in fishing through the mass of lurkers for scum. Do you have any particular suspects (there or elsewhere), other than Darkstrike/Raskol, who you think are worth pursuing?

@afatchic

You seem to be stating a lot of information rather than opinion.

Yes, the above is a question. Answer it for easy town points.

@JereIC

Pick two scum out of AFC, Jester, Ecto, Gyro, and Kiku.

@Mr.Jester

I put a Nerf gun to your head and ask you if U.N. Owen is town or scum. You must choose one. Answer wrongly and I pull the trigger. First, though, I'll shoot you in the knee unless you tell me your top suspect(s) outside Malpascp, Raskol, and Owen.

[Ectomancer]

Experience tells me that the type of exchange you two are having often leads to the lynch of one of the two. An early bloodying between scum partners is not unusual, so an initial exchange is not unexpected, but there was some real doggedness on your part (not so much on Neto's) to keep pursuing this, even though you began to look worse as it wore on.
Even after Neto unvoted, rather than turn your attention to the other two players on your wagon and begin the process of beating them off, you kept the grind up on Neto until he finally voted you again.
So why would you do that? Ploy is the low probability option. While you can turn an inside straight, you only try if you can buy in low, and doing it day 1 is high risk.
No, I think something else is at work there and I'll need some time to work it out.

I've come to believe that out of a 3 man scum team you are almost certain to have 1 in the lower 30% of posters on day 1 if you allow them to simply hang back. By far and away I've seen players who are in the 50% above in posts get lynched day 1. These numbers are all gut, but given to give you an idea of where I think the numbers lie.
When you factor in a hard 2 week deadline, then the temptation to hide in the weeds becomes even greater. As you said, which of the multiple barely actives do you lynch?
Drive them out, get information out of them. How much is enough? I dont know. But I shouldn't be able to filter their posts and have them take less than a page, but thats just me.
And yes I was burned recently by the lurker who managed to never say anything not too suspicious by virtue of never being forced to say more than they wanted.