Oh the irony.WarWound wrote:ive been saying zwet hasnt been doing crap all game... or for most of it...Toro wrote:Rolling with the bandwagon when not doing much scumhunting, hmm, more scumpoints on you.WarWound wrote:a policy lynch does seem to be in orderunvote: vote Zwet
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Iguana Townie
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Policy lynch is getting someone who is SO anti-town, or is so abbrasive that you do not want to play with them. To such an extent that if they dont get policy lynched, you strongly debate replacing out.yabbaguy wrote:Policy lynch is another word entirely, btw.
This is not a policy lynch, or even really an anti-town lynch. This is a scum lynch, we also have about a week to deadline, lets go people.Sheep in wolves clothing-
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At this point im more inclined to vote for AntiHero than for Zwet, and since prods have gone out, I would like to see if he responds.
And Iguana has pretty much answered whichever doubts I had about him, so he is off my radar at this point. (Side note: you may want to join a newbie game as an IC player. you would be very helpful in one of those).
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FOS: AntiHerofor nowShowv/la on weekend until further notice.
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Here's the thing. As mentioned above, just because a fellow wastes time in the same way each game, that doesn't mean that he's automatically the same sort of role. If the guy's going to confuse the issue of voting for Mafia by making vaguely suspicious statements, then he's obstructing progress anyway, no matter what he is.Col.Cathart wrote:Blast: It's interesting though, how you jumped 12KB wagon when it had already some people on it, for pretty weak reason, and now you jumped on zwet wagon, for reasons, because he plays like typical zwet (Here you have an example. He behaved exactly the same with 'why is xxx still alive' etc. etc. and he was a Doc), and not because of, for example, his slip, which SpyreX already covered with details.
Also, does anyone else looks suspicious to you?
Also, please don't ask me to make fingers of suspicion. I don't have the patience to slog through five or six people demanding that I explain every single statement I make.Have pity on the weak. Kill the strong guys first.-
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yabbaguy (O)ptimized
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Toro, your scumhunting methods are extremely ineffective. Either accuse WarWound directly and force him to respond or clam it. Pick one.yabbaguy ~ Winning without actually winning.
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Hint: This 'yabba' guy is scum. Either just distancing from zwet or omgusing him, this is a wondrous turnaround.
I can't wait to hear what got you to this, what specifically allowed you to differentiate between anti town and scum here yabba? Was it because he was voting you?yabbaguy wrote:
Lack of defense is scummy.Because I'm not. And you made a very scummy vote.
Unvote, Vote: zwetschenwasser
I'm completely satisfied now.Immoral Acts: 0-
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skitzer Mafia Scum
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So why are we lynching him if it's not a good idea???Iguana wrote:
Allow me to just speculate and elaborate on where you seem to be headed. Zwet is always useless/scummy. Due to that, he should never be lynched because statistically he is more likely to be town. I would actually argue someone who is ALWAYS dead weight and inherantly scummy should be policy lynched, and will explain why if you want me to.skitzer wrote:Can someone tell me how the zwet in this game is different from the zwet in every other game? Maybe then I'll consider a vote.
So people voting me... is there anything I havent responded to? As far as I can tell, im being voted on WIFOM, ??? and something I defended against (and apparently was accepted?)-
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Flava Flave Goon
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Can you tell me why you were confused over Iguana's role?Pomegranate wrote:I don't like the Wifom more than I did before, but I'm not as bothered by Iguana, and I don't think we'll get any farther.
If he's scum, lynching him would accomplish quite a bit.Blastinus wrote: But, like I said, he's vanished, so I don't think that voting for him would accomplish much anyway, whether or not he is scum.
From what I've seen, this is a typical Zwetdefense. He didn't elaborate, but he answered what you asked him. He says he hasn't contradicted himself, which I agree with. And he says your previous vote was scummy, which I don't necessarily agree with, but Zwet looks like he's trying here. I don't think he's scum.yabbaguy wrote:
Lack of defense is scummy.Because I'm not. And you made a very scummy vote.
Unvote, Vote: zwetschenwasser
I'm completely satisfied now.
1-2 players voting Zwet are scum. (Iguana, Spy, Pom, Blast, War, Yabba). In order of liklieness: Pom, Yabba, Spy, War, Iguana, Blast.
Really? I thought it meant lynching a player who is so detrimental to the town regardless of alignment that you don't want them around in a possible LYLO/late-game situation.Iguana wrote: Policy lynch is getting someone who is SO anti-town, or is so abbrasive that you do not want to play with them. To such an extent that if they dont get policy lynched, you strongly debate replacing out.Town: 3-5
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Iguana Townie
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no no no... thats what YOU seem to be saying. Not me. You are starting to wander down the "he is always scummy, lets not lynch" path. I am trying to point out that massive pit filled with spikes, those creapy yellow spiders, and tiny yappy worthless dogs that you are going to fall into if you go much farther.skitzer wrote:
So why are we lynching him if it's not a good idea???Iguana wrote:
Allow me to just speculate and elaborate on where you seem to be headed. Zwet is always useless/scummy. Due to that, he should never be lynched because statistically he is more likely to be town. I would actually argue someone who is ALWAYS dead weight and inherantly scummy should be policy lynched, and will explain why if you want me to.skitzer wrote:Can someone tell me how the zwet in this game is different from the zwet in every other game? Maybe then I'll consider a vote.Sheep in wolves clothing-
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yabbaguy (O)ptimized
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First off, anti-town reads inherently have a scum tilt on it. Obviously, it gives way to any outright scum suspects (which there were none really) at the time, but understand that at no point I ever read him as town. So this "wondrous" turnaround is a hyperbole. I absolutely loathe hyperboles. People who decide to use exaggerated propaganda (a WONDROUS turnaround) in their posts are ridiculous because it's not logic, it's manipulation (one can call it advertising... but that's what advertising does, too). Not the town's job to manipulate town.
I gave a reason, so it's not OMGUS. You're overusing the acronym as well.
I no less just explained above my vote that he refused to defend against my case or explain anything. That's nothing but his fault if I decide to vote him for being scummy at this moment, because his OMGUSing me (which I *can* assume because he hasn't provided true reasoning for why I'm scummy) and refusal to explain further his self-contradiction leads me to believe that my interpretations are correct.
Regardless of alignment? I'd totally agree with the general format of this hypothesis in general if he flips town, but it starts to get screwed up if we're right and he flips scum and SK since the former you're really looking for distancing cases and SK, well, you can't say they weren't scumhunting. I can elaborate further on that if you're not convinced.1-2 players voting Zwet are scum. (Iguana, Spy, Pom, Blast, War, Yabba). In order of liklieness: Pom, Yabba, Spy, War, Iguana, Blast.
Do you actually think I'm scummy Flave, or is this merely comparative? I haven't seen *any* mention to you calling me scum.
@Grimmy: Why do you think AH is scummy?
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I'm less busy now. I think I'm starting to get my way around this game, but just to make sure, I'll make this my only one.
Still waiting on actual replies from zwet. A lot of people seem to be re-reading too, looking forward to it.yabbaguy ~ Winning without actually winning.
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Pomegranate Mafia Scum
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Yabbaguy, what do you have to say to Spyre's post 573?Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
"I didn't want to use you Pom... I never killed you. I didn't endgame you it was my evil buddies!
Sowwy >_<" -scumFate.
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Flava Flave Goon
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If you could manipulate town into lynching scum, you wouldn't do it? I would.Yabba wrote:Not the town's job to manipulate town.
Did you miss the part where I think Zwet is town? If he's scum, the point is lessened (although when Zwet is scum, he's likely to be bussed). If he's SK, nobody knows that yet. Scum can get away with a weak vote on him either way, so the wagon can be treated the same as if he's town.Yabba wrote:Regardless of alignment?
Your overall play isn't necessarily scummy. I just strongly suspect that 1-2 scum are on the wagon. Pom is obviously listed before you and I have strong town reads on Blast and Iguana. Basically, take it to mean you are scummier than Spy and if Pom is town, you need a closer look. I'm not about to go "Let's lynch Yabba ASAP!!", but if people head that way, I'd be quicker to deadline-compromise on you than I would on other options (Zwet, Iguana, anyone else who might be wagoned that I don't think is scum).Yabba wrote:Do you actually think I'm scummy Flave, or is this merely comparative? I haven't seen *any* mention to you calling me scum.
Actually, now that I look at the rules...
The following need to change their vote in their next post:semioldguy wrote: 8. If there is not a player with more than 50% of the vote at deadline, the day will end in NO LYNCH.
Antihero, Scott, Toro, Zwet
The following need to vote someone in their next post:
Grimmy, Yank, Zazie
Looks like our lynch is one of the following:
Zwet, Antihero, Pom, Iguana
My preference list is the following:
Antihero
Pom
Iguana
ZwetTown: 3-5
Scum: 1-2
3rd party: 2-0
For the sake of MMM's happiness and my own, my sig has been placed here in a more condensed way. I apologize for the old sig and promise to have changed my ways for the better. <3 MMM-
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Pomegranate Mafia Scum
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Well, as Wifom is usually confusing...Flava Flave wrote:
Can you tell me why you were confused over Iguana's role?Pomegranate wrote:I don't like the Wifom more than I did before, but I'm not as bothered by Iguana, and I don't think we'll get any farther.
She's insinuating that she could be a PR, trying to pull in NAs, but that she could be a VT attempting to pull in abilities to avert them from real PRs.
But she could still be scum attempting to confuse people/cause people to think that she is either a VT or PR, one or the other.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
"I didn't want to use you Pom... I never killed you. I didn't endgame you it was my evil buddies!
Sowwy >_<" -scumFate.
"Pom was on my "I will not kill, and I shall seek vengeance upon the death of them" list." -CSL-
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yabbaguy (O)ptimized
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@Pom-587: I agree with it.
...I'm not quite sure what you're looking for here.yabbaguy ~ Winning without actually winning.
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Flava Flave Goon
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WHY DOES TOWN CARE IF IGUANA IS A VANILLA OR A POWER ROLE?Pomegranate wrote:
Well, as Wifom is usually confusing...Flava Flave wrote:
Can you tell me why you were confused over Iguana's role?Pomegranate wrote:I don't like the Wifom more than I did before, but I'm not as bothered by Iguana, and I don't think we'll get any farther.
She's insinuating that she could be a PR, trying to pull in NAs, but that she could be a VT attempting to pull in abilities to avert them from real PRs.
But she could still be scum attempting to confuse people/cause people to think that she is either a VT or PR, one or the other.Town: 3-5
Scum: 1-2
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For the sake of MMM's happiness and my own, my sig has been placed here in a more condensed way. I apologize for the old sig and promise to have changed my ways for the better. <3 MMM-
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Pomegranate Mafia Scum
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Sorry, I thought you were one of the people saying that zwets is maing complete sense.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
"I didn't want to use you Pom... I never killed you. I didn't endgame you it was my evil buddies!
Sowwy >_<" -scumFate.
"Pom was on my "I will not kill, and I shall seek vengeance upon the death of them" list." -CSL-
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^^^ directed at yabbaguy.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
"I didn't want to use you Pom... I never killed you. I didn't endgame you it was my evil buddies!
Sowwy >_<" -scumFate.
"Pom was on my "I will not kill, and I shall seek vengeance upon the death of them" list." -CSL-
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Pomegranate Mafia Scum
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We care if she's scum. Look at the last line of my post.Flava Flave wrote:
WHY DOES TOWN CARE IF IGUANA IS A VANILLA OR A POWER ROLE?Pomegranate wrote:
Well, as Wifom is usually confusing...Flava Flave wrote:
Can you tell me why you were confused over Iguana's role?Pomegranate wrote:I don't like the Wifom more than I did before, but I'm not as bothered by Iguana, and I don't think we'll get any farther.
She's insinuating that she could be a PR, trying to pull in NAs, but that she could be a VT attempting to pull in abilities to avert them from real PRs.
But she could still be scum attempting to confuse people/cause people to think that she is either a VT or PR, one or the other.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
"I didn't want to use you Pom... I never killed you. I didn't endgame you it was my evil buddies!
Sowwy >_<" -scumFate.
"Pom was on my "I will not kill, and I shall seek vengeance upon the death of them" list." -CSL-
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Flava Flave Goon
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Read what I bolded in your post that I have quoted and answer the question in my last post.Pomegranate wrote:
We care if she's scum. Look at the last line of my post.Flava Flave wrote:
WHY DOES TOWN CARE IF IGUANA IS A VANILLA OR A POWER ROLE?Pomegranate wrote:
Well, as Wifom is usually confusing...Flava Flave wrote:
Can you tell me why you were confused over Iguana's role?Pomegranate wrote:I don't like the Wifom more than I did before, but I'm not as bothered by Iguana, and I don't think we'll get any farther.
She's insinuating that she could be a PR, trying to pull in NAs, but that she could be a VT attempting to pull in abilities to avert them from real PRs.
But she could still be scumattempting to confuse people/cause people to think that she is either a VT or PR, one or the other.Town: 3-5
Scum: 1-2
3rd party: 2-0
For the sake of MMM's happiness and my own, my sig has been placed here in a more condensed way. I apologize for the old sig and promise to have changed my ways for the better. <3 MMM-
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Pomegranate Mafia Scum
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We care if she's scum, attempting to look like a townie with "pro-town" Wifom (doesn't matter if it's VT or PR).Flava Flave wrote:
Read what I bolded in your post that I have quoted and answer the question in my last post.Pomegranate wrote:
We care if she's scum. Look at the last line of my post.Flava Flave wrote:
WHY DOES TOWN CARE IF IGUANA IS A VANILLA OR A POWER ROLE?Pomegranate wrote:
Well, as Wifom is usually confusing...Flava Flave wrote:
Can you tell me why you were confused over Iguana's role?Pomegranate wrote:I don't like the Wifom more than I did before, but I'm not as bothered by Iguana, and I don't think we'll get any farther.
She's insinuating that she could be a PR, trying to pull in NAs, but that she could be a VT attempting to pull in abilities to avert them from real PRs.
But she could still be scumattempting to confuse people/cause people to think that she is either a VT or PR, one or the other.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
"I didn't want to use you Pom... I never killed you. I didn't endgame you it was my evil buddies!
Sowwy >_<" -scumFate.
"Pom was on my "I will not kill, and I shall seek vengeance upon the death of them" list." -CSL-
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