Open 163 (Jungle Republic)- Game Over before 835

[hasdgfas]

Well, one of {ThAdmiral, Shotty} is the remaining mafia and one is a townie. Unless Scott is lying and someone else wants to claim seer.

[Scott Brosius]

Good kill Cow. I investigated Cow and he is telling the truth he is the other wolf. I was obviously wrong on my DTM read, interesting how everyone followed me. I want to hear from Shotty especially, he has been weak in his participation since yesterday.

We are killing Cow today. Then we will enter LYLO. I would like some discussion before we do this.

[ThAdmiral]

Well my dtm read was mainly based off the lynch results and voting history which once again shows how much of that is an inexact science.

I have to say I am surprised that shotty is the last mafiate as I had a strong gut feeling he was town, but there's not really much to discuss. The decision tomorrow will ultimately come down to you, Scott.

vote: hasdfgas

[Shotty to the Body]

LOL NT, not even going to post any reasons to support that THA? I'll be back later to post a case, but a reread should refresh everyone and make the obvious clear here.

[hasdgfas]

I'm willing to "happily ever after" if the townies want to guarantee they won't lose to the mafia

[Scott Brosius]

Well before we send you off, answer the big question. Shotty or Admiral?

[hasdgfas]

Let me reread Nik when I'm off my iPod to look for interactions

[Shotty to the Body]

THA PBPA

Post 0: Asks if it’s okay to skip the first 4 pages of material.
Post 1: Internet problems
Post 2: More internet problems
Post 3: Internet is back
Post 4: Promises post
Post 5: Concludes no suspicious activity out of first 4 pages, but then calls DTM cautious scum, attacks Saberwolf for criticism of Zazie
Post 6: @page 11 Saberwolf is scum to him, though he puts saberwolf 4th on his list after a reread, votes toro for ‘a few bad wagon jumps’
Post 7: Disagrees with has about Zazie’s play
Post 8: More useless blather about Zazie’s spam
Post 9: Claims the mafia should fear the seer more than the wolves. Makes one of those little pro-town buzz-phrases about the seer claiming or not.
Post 10: Corrects post 9 about investigation, asks hohum for posts
Post 11: Asks peace if his attacks are a gambit
Post 12: Says my point about toro is good
Post 13: Admits to not scum-hunting, votes Scott
Post 14: Buddying Saber to get Scott votes
Post 15: Asks toro and zazie for scott votes, no reasoning given
Post 16: Uses zazie’s scum list to vote hohum, says saber also had him as scum. So did everyone else at the time because of his lurking. Plays the confirmed pro-towner must be right idea.
Post 17: Says he’s willing to look at players besides scott
Post 18: Confirms peacesells as town out of the blue over a nothing post. Says bussing doesn’t happen very much and that he is sure hohum is scum
Post 19: No real response to being called out on clearing peace
Post 20: Says he will post soon
Post 21: Agrees with has about scott selective hunting, asks for werewolf to claim
Post 22: “i like vote: toro”
Post 23: Explains away his bandwagoning
Post 24: Agrees with scott that peace is bussing toro
Post 25: Asks why cow thinks toro is VI
Post 26: Fluff
Post 27: Says toro isn’t a VI
Post 28: Asks toro who is scum
Post 29: Accuses peace of being toro’s partner
Post 30: Says he will look through vote history
Post 31: Asks for a replacement for another game
Post 32: Accusses DTM and Scott of being scum, both confirmed townies
Post 33: Adds has to his list, note no mention at all here of nik as even blipping his radar
Post 34: Concludes scott must be scum via gut but would rather lynch has
Post 35: Feels out town opinion on lynching has or not, asks me if I’m the seer
Post 36: Now Nik is suddenly in the picture as scum
Post 37: Reiterates suspects
Post 38: Votes DTM
Post 39: Calls for mine and has’ vote on DTM
Post 40: Distancing from DTM lynch, calls me scum with no reasoning, votes has

Reread him yourself and try to find scum-hunting, the only thing he ever did was comment on other people's cases and try to draw conclusions without posting much evidence.

[Scott Brosius]

Any response Admiral? Any evidence on why Shotty is mafia?

[ThAdmiral]

Am a bit busy with stuff at the moment but hopefully will be able to get on tomorrow.
May I ask who you are leaning towards?

[Scott Brosius]

Nobody at the moment, I would like to see your case on Shotty and hear from Cow first.

[hasdgfas]

Nobody at the moment, I would like to see your case on Shotty and hear from Cow first.

Honestly, first read-through, nothing at all jumps out at me from Nik. Maybe re-reading Toro will get me something....

[Shotty to the Body]

Zzzzz....

[Scott Brosius]

I did a quick scan. Agree with Cow that Nik did a pretty decent job covering his tracks and interacting with everyone. I need to look closer at interactions with Toro from D1 and D2.

Admiral jumps on Toro's wagon IMMEDIATELY after Nik. This seems too obvious and stupid if Admiral is scum. Admiral's meta seems to be a lurky type of player.

However, Shotty's interactions with Toro and Nik are limited, especially before D3 which may be a result of distancing. Hopped on the DTM lynch without saying a word yesterday.

I guess we can keep discussing although it seems the game is basically up to me at this point.

Vote: hasdgfas

[Shotty to the Body]

Considering he doesn't even have a counterargument.... Why is Admiral voting Toro like that stupid and obvious? That's WIFOM, I hunted out Toro and except for the last day (where I was incredibly busy IRL and had a lackluster performance) have been leading the charge. Look at THA, his only contribution was his vote analysis where he concluded two townies were the remaining scum, only after you claimed did he change that opinion. Almost* (I didn't actually look this up to be sure but I wanted to say all here) everyone else had at LEAST a scum in their top two.

[Scott Brosius]

Cow any last ideas before you die?

[hasdgfas]

Cow any last ideas before you die?

Lynch one of {Shotty, Admiral}, have me kill the other if it's wrong, mutual win?

[Shotty to the Body]

Right... and let you walk away with the win? You're funny. Anything else to say before I hammer you?

[hasdgfas]

Right... and let you walk away with the win? You're funny. Anything else to say before I hammer you?

Thank you for reading what I'm saying. I'm saying that if we lynch right, I won't make a NK, then we just keep No-lynching/no-killing, as we're not required to do either. If we don't lynch right, I kill the remaining mafia, and do what basically turns into This, but is more a mutual win, as it's 2/3 factions.

[Shotty to the Body]

And you would just choose to forego the win if we lynched correctly, even though we could lynch you the next day? Both those scenarios end with you making up half the town and fulfilling your win condition unless we count on your good-will, so no I won't agree with that. Besides, I don't see anywhere in the rules where it says opposing factions are allowed to just agree to win together.

[Scott Brosius]

adddddddddddmiral where arrrrrrre you

[Scott Brosius]

Just hammer him Shotty

[Shotty to the Body]

Vote hasdgfas

[DTMaster]

Posting to say Fuzzy is AWOL. I was in a game with him and he's been awol since then. Time to get the back up mod here?

[Shotty to the Body]

I'll yell at him tomorrow.