Flash Mafia: You won!

[SpyreX]

Hmmm.

Why that now versus when you were trying to make a wagon happen before?

[crypto]

Because my two other games have been in someone's-gonna-die mode, because I had limited access during Thanksgiving vaca, because most of my suspicion was (and still is) a gut read, because I hadn't noticed some of the things that I noticed when you prompted me to reread and make a case, because I've become a fan of voting/pressuring before revealing most or all of my underlying reasons (though there weren't initially many concrete reasons in this case), and because I'm a little lazy.

[crypto]

I think that covers it.

[SpyreX]

Sweet.

Now, I'm gonna be THAT GUY again and say I'm not seein the AGOTI business either.

So, before we start holding hands, thoughts on:

1.) Poro coming in and stating something about the modcount without saying anything with the last few pages?
2.) Pom's last post.
3.) MBF

[Green Crayons]

Notice that I made reference to my own absence of play when I said that to Crypto.

How in the world did you make a reference to your own "absence of play?"

[SpyreX]

Crypto is skating (OHH NO HIP-HOPCRAZY)

and I don't like it. Especially the interactions with RF and how they ebb and flow as a relation to the wagon.

Yes, I threw a joke in there but I specifically referenced the potential for hypocrisy considering the fact I'd be absent.

Nor does that change anything about anything though.

[Green Crayons]

I see. I didn't realize that was a reference to hypocrisy.


Do you think there are any other players who are pretty much coasting along?

[SpyreX]

I feel MUCH better about crypto after this last exchange. I'd point the finger of lazy directly at Pom.

Although after the last few pages I'd flat out forgot Tajo and Rofl were in this game.

[Pomegranate]

@Pom:

Notice that I made reference to my own absence of play when I said that to Crypto. Further, notice that it and of itself doesn't change anything about it.

Further, you've given quotes with my interaction with MBF (non-contextually) without reasons for said quotes in the first place (unless that is your looking for examples of my "not doing anything" in which case go ahead and say and MBF can take a back burner to the furious lynching)

I didn't understand the reference until you pointed it out, I'm sorry.

The reason I put in those quotes was because I didn't understand what you meant by them, and they obviously didn't contain any answers to MBF's points, so I put them in. Could you explain?

(Yeah, I know I'm slow sometimes; bear with me.)

[SpyreX]

The lines below them did. Those were setups (sarcastic ones) due to the tone of the interaction.

Definitely not the important part of those discussions.

[Pomegranate]

That aside, her language really rubs me wrong. (And no, it isn't that it's childish. It's that her posting style looks ferociously contrived.)

Yeah, I also feel this. But she's obviously an alt, so I don't let it bother me too much.

I like your case, but not enough for a vote ATM.

[Pomegranate]

The lines below them did. Those were setups (sarcastic ones) due to the tone of the interaction.

Definitely not the important part of those discussions.

I understood that it was sarcasm, but I didn't see all of the questions answered. Looking back, it's slightly clearer.

[crypto]

I don't know, Pom. I think the ickiness of AGOTI's language transcends the inherent weirdness of adopting an alt style. I understand that AGOTI is contriving a style, but you should be able to do so without being

this

scummy about it. It's hard to describe, but there's a difference between

contrived alt style

and

contrived alt style that's scummy

. Maybe it's just me.

[Pomegranate]

I don't know, Pom. I think the ickiness of AGOTI's language transcends the inherent weirdness of adopting an alt style. I understand that AGOTI is contriving a style, but you should be able to do so without being

this

scummy about it. It's hard to describe, but there's a difference between

contrived alt style

and

contrived alt style that's scummy

. Maybe it's just me.

I could see it as a contrived alt style that's scummy because the poster doesn't really know how to play a game while posting like that, and is therefore scummy.

[Porochaz]

Sweet.

Now, I'm gonna be THAT GUY again and say I'm not seein the AGOTI business either.

So, before we start holding hands, thoughts on:

1.) Poro coming in and stating something about the modcount without saying anything with the last few pages?

Im sorry, excuse me? Please reread properly, kthanxbi

Also

myko

you follow one of the pissiest, most annoying rules on site. Remind me that I need to slap you. Consistently.

unvote, vote AGOTI

better now?

I have honestly missed the vote from you. So no, this wasn't the point, and I have usually no problems with people forgetting to unvote.

[crypto]

Mod-kill him, Lord Mykonian.

Do it.

[a girl on the internet]

I've become a fan of voting/pressuring before revealing most or all of my underlying reasons

and yet half of your case on me is that i've been statin reads without revealing my reasons. who's bein a hypocrite now?

[Porochaz]

I've become a fan of voting/pressuring before revealing most or all of my underlying reasons

and yet half of your case on me is that i've been statin reads without revealing my reasons. who's bein a hypocrite now?

whos not replying to me or elvis now?

[SpyreX]

Sorry poro I wasn't specific enough - not mentioning ANYTHING about me/mbf that's been giong on the last few pages.

[Porochaz]

It starts by you over reacting then it goes into semantics and what appears to be a circle between you and MBF. I see nothing productive in it and I dont particularly get it and would rather focus on AGOTI and cryptos fascination with the language aspect which to me is a null tell. It helps me work out who the alt most likely is. But a null tell non the less.

[populartajo]

For some reason I thought this game would be in page 20 after my party weekend. Much to my surprise, we are just in page 11 but I already skimmed some wallotexts so yeah thx..., dont you understand people dont read wallotexts?

Disclaimer: you can still post readable wallotexts. Here is an example:

@Tajo: Well, he's currently in neutral. Though, there's also the possibility of third party with its own selfish interests.

what makes you think he could be third party?

Page 5
The wagon on ray is developing too fast. The wagon is at l-3 with poro and bunny pseudovoting him.

where's the vote, eh?

same to you, prozac.

This post makes me feel ray is prob town. I mean, Im sure scum could be less confrontational with people suspecting him.

i don't really like my mufasa vote either if he's being replaced tho.

wut?
Actually the end of 105 is a good observation. (case on snowbunny).

Unvote. Lost interest in mikeburnfire for now, though I still got my eye on him.

crypto, what exactly changed between your mbf vote and your unvote?

The snowbunny wagon is also developing fast. Agoti, crypto, rolf and rayfrost all vote in the same page. Assuming a scum maneuver, I think there is prob one scum in this group.

First thing that struck me was that Tajo stated a lynch on AGOI would benefit him. I dont see how this is unless he is a lyncher and in such a case then he should have voted AGOI but chose instead to vote Mufasa. Can you explain that Tajo?

When did I state an AGOTI lynch would benefit me?

@Tajo. Why are Rofl and Ray town? Equally about Spyrex and Mike. Reasons please its not far beyond page 3 I believe. Do you believe your opinions can change?

All these four had a relaxed/townie tone in their posting circa page 3. I use these statements to stir conversation based on this towntell that is pretty accurate in my experience, see who asks, see who agrees, see who disagrees. And of course opinions can change as the game develops.

Overall I approve 128. Taking stances is goodposting.

Pomegranate's double post is suspicious. Pom felt it was necessary to change "MBF is leaning town" to the more assertive "MBF=town". This lets me know that he's previewing his messages, then altering them slightly before he posts, perhaps in an effort to prevent giving away any scumtells.

This is also a good observation. I dont find a town motivation foe why Pom would change the intensity of that phrase.

unvote. Just putting this out there: I do not condone Mufasa's play. I am not a jester. Also, I am not Iammers or Erg0 or anyone else.

Hi Kast!

tl,dr. You have a nice case there, kast. What do you think of frost spamming and agressive stance to his voters?

i'm torn about ray, what he did that i originally voted him for was scummy but i'm being swayed by how much he's flattering me. (i know, i know, all the flattery is actually scummy too, but i'm egotistical and want it to continue.)

wtf?

No, this does not make sense. Third party, SK, is a type of scum. So a person should be reading scummy to you in order for you to start contemplating what type of scum. Neutral is not a deisgnation for scum.

elvis gets it.

FOS Pome for voting rolfcopter while drawing a link between rayscum and rolf scumpartner.

Yes, there is a convenient wagon on RF already. Makes sense, but I still don't like rofl.

Unvote; Vote RayFrost.

I dont like the quick vote after rolf and elvis pressure. It seems like Pome is blindly trusting them.

Yey more wallotexts I wont read.

Page 8.

Frost claims vanilla. Im going to call 182-185 a slightly town reaction. Doesnt feel like someone pressured lying.

Spyrex gets townie points in 205.

Snowhite's last paragraph of 207 is a town reaction to Frost's claim.

Based on these facts, Im less and less liking Pome for supporting the Frost wagon based on crayon's attacks.

Oh hai spyrex-mbf wallopost battle I wont also read where the real point is to prove Im more clever than you, yey. Skim verdict tomorrow.

I want tajo to post more. He's starting to feel like lurker-scum

I said I was going to be vlaish for the weekend.

What exactly is the case against agoti?

Unvote.

Hos: Spyrex.

Why no Vote?

Although after the last few pages I'd flat out forgot Tajo and Rofl were in this game.

Oh why hallo thar.

Conclusions next post.

[populartajo]

Like

11. Spyrex
2. Rayfrost
4. Elvis_knits
12. Snow white

I dunno

7. Green Crayons replaced Mufasa
9. Crypto
1. Porochaz
3. Roflcopter
13. Mikeburnfire
8. A girl on the internet : someone give me a case on her, Im too lazy to dig for it

Dont like
5. Snow_Bunny
10. Pomegranate

I just isoed Pome again and I strongly suggest a wagon on her.

Vote: Pome.

[mikeburnfire]

I'm not going to waste any more time trying to rebutt Spyrex unless somebody else wants me to clarify something specifically. I'm tired of arguing the same points over and over again.

crypto's case on AGOTI, I gotta say, barely swayed me at all. A lot of the stuff he placed in the category of "substantial issues" seem to be poor playing, but not necessarily scum.

Tajo, I notice that you strongly suggested a wagon on Prochaz without giving any reasoning. Why is that?

[populartajo]

Prochaz? You mean Pome right?

I want to know who thinks like me. Iso Pome and tell me what do you think.

[Porochaz]

I'm not going to waste any more time trying to rebutt Spyrex unless somebody else wants me to clarify something specifically. I'm tired of arguing the same points over and over again.

crypto's case on AGOTI, I gotta say, barely swayed me at all. A lot of the stuff he placed in the category of "substantial issues" seem to be poor playing, but not necessarily scum.

Tajo, I notice that you strongly suggested a wagon on Prochaz without giving any reasoning. Why is that?

Does cryptos case include mine and elvis's points?