Guys

[RayFrost]

Some advice...:

Don't bring the girl/guy to your house, go to a hotel instead. Also wear a rubber. This way, [1] they don't know where you live, [2] you can escape to your house, [3] you be STD free (more likely with the rubber than not).

[VP Baltar]

lol, aren't you like 15 or something ray?

[Ythill]

Yos:

I like how you give Elvis' opinion and Rex's but not your own. It seems clear to me that Rex and I found similarities in our experiences. It also seems clear to me that Elvis and I are/were arguing about what I said (not what Rex said) but I suppose I could be wrong.

Question is, what do you think? Does sex = love? What moral obligations should be fulfilled by a person for whom it doesn't? Is there something wrong with having sex with someone who is overweight or otherwise unattractive, other then the fact that they may be dishonest about what they're seeking from the experience?

[DrippingGoofball]

Question is, what do you think? Does sex = love? What moral obligations should be fulfilled by a person for whom it doesn't? Is there something wrong with having sex with someone who is overweight or otherwise unattractive, other then the fact that they may be dishonest about what they're seeking from the experience?

Are you a defensive driver?

Consider being a defensive swinger.

[RayFrost]

lol, aren't you like 15 or something ray?

I have a mom.

That say 'nuff for you, VP?

[Cobalt]

lol, aren't you like 15 or something ray?

I have a mom.

That say 'nuff for you, VP?

It proves you were born. I think we already knew that.

[VP Baltar]

Your mom gives you advice for one-night stands?

[crywolf20084]

lol, aren't you like 15 or something ray?

He's also in japan with no knowledge of the language and going to a university soon last time i checked.

He's kinda just like Jath.

[RayFrost]

Your mom gives you advice for one-night stands?

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pretty much.

yeah.

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[VP Baltar]

lol, aren't you like 15 or something ray?

He's also in japan with no knowledge of the language and going to a university soon last time i checked.

He's kinda just like Jath.

OHHHH, he's in Japan....that explains all the boning then.

[crywolf20084]

lol, aren't you like 15 or something ray?

He's also in japan with no knowledge of the language and going to a university soon last time i checked.

He's kinda just like Jath.

OHHHH, he's in Japan....that explains all the boning then.

Yeah

And he didn't go to school all first semester.........................

[VP Baltar]

I really hope this thread never dies. It's like taxicab confessions.

[Ythill]

It's like putting a $100 bill in the street and marveling at the dishonesty of the person that picked it up and ran away with it.

LOL. I could argue this premise but I'd rather just bask in the fact that you think I'm as tempting as 100 tax free dollars.

If woe befalls your careless choice of casual mates, don't come complaining.

Was I complaining? I didn't mean to. Rex said he was gonna do a fat chick, then a bunch of people made one-liners which were pro- or con. Then I said there was nothing wrong with having sex with fat chicks, just watch out for the trap. And I shared a funny, if creepy story.

BTW I have to say that your story doesn't exactly make sense, and it probably didn't exactly happen the way you describe. I'd like to hear HER version.

Well I'm not going to track her down to post it. There's a second chapter to the story too. About a year later, she responded to an ad we posted looking for a roommate. I didn't know it was her until the very awkward interview during which she bragged to my wife that we were lovers, openly insulted her, and still acted as if we'd consider renting a room to her. You were right about the "bonkers" thing.

Are you a defensive driver?

Not so much.

Consider being a defensive swinger.

It was one experience. I'm allowed a few drunken mistakes and, in all honesty, the creepiness was worth the story value. Besides "consider being a defensive swinger" is a good paraphrase of what I was saying to begin with.

[RayFrost]

And he didn't go to school all first semester.........................

huh?

[VP Baltar]

And he didn't go to school all first semester.........................

huh?

On account of all the boning.

[RayFrost]

On account of all the boning.

Nah, being the awesome individual that I am, I did both.

[crywolf20084]

I wish i knew where my old scumchat logs were

I'd CP everything you said about japan.......

[RayFrost]

[block of text regarding what has been said about Japan removed because thou art unworthy - RF]

[crywolf20084]

eh what?

[Yosarian2]

Yos:

I like how you give Elvis' opinion and Rex's but not your own. It seems clear to me that Rex and I found similarities in our experiences. It also seems clear to me that Elvis and I are/were arguing about what I said (not what Rex said) but I suppose I could be wrong.

Question is, what do you think? Does sex = love? What moral obligations should be fulfilled by a person for whom it doesn't?

1. Sex dosn't equal love, nor does it necessarily mean you have an obligation, especally if you weren't being dishonest about your motivations. However, if two people have any kind of romantic encounter at all, (anything from casual sex to a "first date" or anything else) and person B is then trying to get back in touch with person A, just flatly ignoring the calls and leaving person B not knowing if you don't want to talk to them or if your cell phone fell in the toilet or if you gave them the wrong number is kind of a dickish move. I agree with Elvis; if you don't want anything more to do with the person, have the guts to say in a direct and honest way to them. After you do that, then you have the right to ignore them.

Is there something wrong with having sex with someone who is overweight or otherwise unattractive, other then the fact that they may be dishonest about what they're seeking from the experience?

2. That's the wrong question. The right question would be "Is there something wrong with agreeing to have sex with someone, and then at the same time/later, going behind their back and telling your friends "Oh my god I can't believe I had sex with person X, they're so fat."" And yes, that's wrong, because it's mysoginistic and hateful; it's one of those ugly "I'm basing my social status and self image on how hot the chicks I score with are" kinds of attitudes.

There's nothing wrong with two people who both want to have causal sex doing so. (There's also nothing wrong with one or both people during or after sex changing their mind and deciding that they might want more then casual sex, so long as they're willing to take "no" for an answer, although of course it makes everything more complicated.) There is something wrong with treating another person as if they were a disposable commodity, though, and especially with treating them as if they were a lesser brand of a disposable commodity that you'll make do with because the store was out of the brand you usually get. There's a fine line, but it's an important one; it's the difference between two consenting people giving each other pleasure (even if it dosn't mean anything more then that) and one person using another.

[Fuzzyman]

I quit my lurking for 15 minutes and I miss awesome Japan stuff.

[elvis_knits]

Yosarian gets it.

[Ythill]

Yos:

1. I agree with Yosarian2. Though it's becoming a sad aspect of our culture that not returning calls is considered to be similar to actually setting boundries, and she should probably take the hint.

2. If someone is beneath your personal standards and still won't take no for an answer until you get drunk enough to change your mind, I don't see anything hateful about a little embarrassed joking around after the fact. If they played the beer-goggles card to get down your pants, then it comes with the territory. Is it insensitive? Of course. But I think mysoginistic and hateful are a bit of a stretch.

3. As far as I know the only "using" we were discussing was when Elvis thought that's what I meant but it really wasn't. And I think I define "using" a little differently than you do.

[xRECKONERx]

For the record, I've only had four sexual partners in my 20(1) years of life. I was not totally plastered for the other three, and she was considerably less fucked up than I was. I'm not trying to weasel my way out of responsibility - I took part, duh. I made this thread while drunk and laying in bed. She was taking a few more shots. But in any other frame of mind, this wouldn't have happened.

[Cobalt]

Rex is 201 years old?