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Netopalis Mafia Scum
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KMD: You, Glork and Kerrigan, mostly, but it's a light read. I don't like how quickly you are jumping to conclusions.
Also, how am I "Changing my story"? I'm not sure that I've done that anywhere. Incidentally, I've elaborated on my position in MD multiple times, well before I received my role for this game. If you want to find me scummy, go ahead, but preferring questions over RVS is not a good reason to do so.My posts are best read in the calm, reassuring voice of Morgan Freeman. I don't sound anything like him, but they sound best that way.
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Netopalis Mafia Scum
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How is that changing my story? I said from the beginning that I didn't want to bandwagon. Everything that I have said has been internally consistent. You can disagree with my position, sure, but that doesn't mean that I'm changing my story.My posts are best read in the calm, reassuring voice of Morgan Freeman. I don't sound anything like him, but they sound best that way.
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Glork Burdened by Proficiency
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I can't tell if you're just playing the fool or not, but I'm going to try to explain this very clearly.Kmd4390 wrote:No, I believed the read to be accurate.
No, there isn't a 50% chance on anyone's alignment.Glork wrote:Please answer my question.
In your average 12-13 player game, there are 3-4 scums, which is 25-33%. If you are protown, then at the start of a game, any other player has a 25-33% chance of flipping scum if they were to be lynched immediately.
You stated that a player (in this case, Netlava) is "probably scum." By its very definition, the word "probably" means that you believe there is a >50% chance that Netlava is scum.
Now, there are two things that I want to know:
1) If I were to dayvig Netlava right now, do you think there is a greater-than-50% chance that he will flip scum? I want you to think about what that means before answering.
2) If the answer to the above is "yes, I do think there is a greater-than-50% chance that he will flip scum," why aren't you pushing his lynch?-
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Netopalis Mafia Scum
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Why? Do you have any comments on the recent events? Your posts have been rather cryptic and, well...useless.Netlava wrote:
This post still gives me a bad vibe, though.*claps slowly* Way to go - Saint is voting your town read and Haylen is voting with you. Bravo, bravo.My posts are best read in the calm, reassuring voice of Morgan Freeman. I don't sound anything like him, but they sound best that way.
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I dobut it's even things he already knows. It sounds to me like he's just trying to get people to fall into his line of thought.Annachie wrote:
Bull. Sounds more like attempted justification for things you already know.Kmd4390 wrote:I'm getting better. Page 2 and I have 4 pretty solid reads. Neto and Mae as scum. Haylen and Saint as town.
FOS KMD
Your post, annachie, is exactly in line with the original point I was trying to make, which is: Very rarely does a player actually have a "solid read" on Page 2 of a game... much less FOUR "solid reads."
KMD was talking bigger than he actually thought, and that implies that his voiced "opinions" are insincere.-
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I asked why you didn't bandwagon, you said it was because you don't like random voting.Netopalis wrote:How is that changing my story? I said from the beginning that I didn't want to bandwagon. Everything that I have said has been internally consistent. You can disagree with my position, sure, but that doesn't mean that I'm changing my story.
You said you voted for no reason, then later said you used a random number generater.
Then you went on about theory and I stopped paying attention.
Yep.Glork wrote: In your average 12-13 player game, there are 3-4 scums, which is 25-33%. If you are protown, then at the start of a game, any other player has a 25-33% chance of flipping scum if they were to be lynched immediately.
See, I don't think about numbers and percentages when I use words like that. It's my way of saying that is my opinion. I don't know what would be a better word, but that's just semantics, so I'm sticking with that.Glork wrote:You stated that a player (in this case, Netlava) is "probably scum." By its very definition, the word "probably" means that you believe there is a >50% chance that Netlava is scum.
1) No, not even close to 50%. Assuming it starts around 30%, there's maybe a 35% chance. I realize that odds say there is a good chance that I'm wrong on, what, two thirds of my reads? That's not going to stop me from trying to get my reads though.Glork wrote:Now, there are two things that I want to know:
1) If I were to dayvig Netlava right now, do you think there is a greater-than-50% chance that he will flip scum? I want you to think about what that means before answering.
2) If the answer to the above is "yes, I do think there is a greater-than-50% chance that he will flip scum," why aren't you pushing his lynch?
2) Let's pretend for a second that I did answer "yes". I think it's important to get a look at every player. Some players haven't even posted yet. We aren't ready to lynch.
Are you going to say anything about anyone other than Mae?Netlava wrote:
This post still gives me a bad vibe, though.*claps slowly* Way to go - Saint is voting your town read and Haylen is voting with you. Bravo, bravo.
Why FoS when you don't have a vote out?Annachie wrote: Bull. Sounds more like attempted justification for things you already know.
FOS KMD
Meh, that's my playstyle. When you are confident, people follow you. When people follow you, you have more control over whether you win or lose the game.Glork wrote: KMD was talking bigger than he actually thoughtKMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Voting for no reason and a random number generator are not mutually exclusive. I had no reason behind my vote - I chose the target of my meaningless vote randomly.
Also, I find it suspect that you started asking me about theory, then all of a sudden you're telling me to shut up about theory.My posts are best read in the calm, reassuring voice of Morgan Freeman. I don't sound anything like him, but they sound best that way.
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Netopalis Mafia Scum
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The first question necessarily dictates a theoretical answer. I can't explain without going into theory...Kmd4390 wrote:If you hate random voting, why are you voting Maemuki?
What did you mean by your statement about the bandwagon?My posts are best read in the calm, reassuring voice of Morgan Freeman. I don't sound anything like him, but they sound best that way.
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Incidentally, "I know I'm town" has failed to clear *anybody* of suspicion in any mafia game. It's a useful thing to remember, but as an argumentative point, it sucks.My posts are best read in the calm, reassuring voice of Morgan Freeman. I don't sound anything like him, but they sound best that way.
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That was game-specific. I was asking for your reasons for voting Mae.Netopalis wrote:
The first question necessarily dictates a theoretical answer. I can't explain without going into theory...Kmd4390 wrote:If you hate random voting, why are you voting Maemuki?
What did you mean by your statement about the bandwagon?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I'm not asking to be cleared. I'm answering the question. I was asked why I want people following me. Well, that's why.Netopalis wrote:Incidentally, "I know I'm town" has failed to clear *anybody* of suspicion in any mafia game. It's a useful thing to remember, but as an argumentative point, it sucks.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Maemuki Mafia Scum
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And my reasons for voting Mae obviously had something to do with theory. Every vote on P1 is based on some sort of theoretical underpinning.My posts are best read in the calm, reassuring voice of Morgan Freeman. I don't sound anything like him, but they sound best that way.
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Leading the town isn't a tell one way or the other. It's a playstyle (or maybe personality trait, but meh).Maemuki wrote: Figures. Anyway. Would be leading the town a scumtell, kmd? Would be mislynching a person because you said so helpful for your (I'm assuming here) town win condition?
I don't think ALL of that theory talk was necessary to explain your vote.Netopalis wrote:And my reasons for voting Mae obviously had something to do with theory. Every vote on P1 is based on some sort of theoretical underpinning.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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