Mafia 108 - Mafia With The Quickness - over!

[Netopalis]

How about responding to my latest post?

[Incognito]

Vote Count #8 of Day 1

*Netopalis (5) <-~ Haylen, Zachrulez, Ellibereth, Kmd4390, Glork
Zachrulez (2) <-~ Bogre, SaintKerrigan
Ellibereth (3) <-~ Gayle, Netopalis, camn

Not voting (3) <-~ Annachie, Netlava, Maemuki

With 13 alive, 7 votes will do it.

Note:

an asterisk by a player's name indicates said player would be lynched if Day were to end right this moment without a lynch majority.

Saturday, January 9th at 2 P.M. EST

[Netopalis]

Oh, and incidentally, Incognito, V/LA from roughly midnight tonight to 8 PM tomorrow. I'll be driving from WV to Georgia.

[Glork]

Glork: You've attacked me several times for talking about theory too much...but now you're voting for me because we have a difference in theory? That is illogical. I'm not going to be baited into another MD discussion, and it appears to me that you're trying to make me start down that road again so that others will attack me for it. I find that to be scummy.

No, I'm voting you because sometimes I enjoy bandwagoning, and I would like to see a claim from you.

Sure, there's the fact that you showed an inconsistency in willing to settle for an Elli lynch. Sure, there's the fact that your reasons for voting Elli are largely mediocre-at-best. Sure, there's the fact that I have percieved potential scum connections between you and other players.


But no, clearly I felt like just bandwagoning you for no reason at all. And for "theory."

[Netopalis]

Because you enjoy bandwagoning? That's about the worst reason for a claim that I've ever heard. Sounds rather role-fishy to me.

My reasons for voting Ellibereth are good. He has shown a propensity to jump on the strongest bandwagon, which I find to be a good scumtell. He also has failed to post logical responses to any attacks on him and has, in other cases, merely parroted what others have said.

Next, your perceived scum connections are vague and are not sufficient for a vote.

Finally, you are the one who said that you were voting me because I disliked bandwagons. That is a theoretical point.

[Maemuki]

I'll start from the bottom then. Italics is elaboration.

9) It would be Bogre and Haylen, but Haylen is already making a post, so it's Bogre and Gayle. Maybe Elli as well.

I don't think this post needs more elaboration. Add camn to the list. Camn actually has posts larger than a couple lines, but Bogre's, Elli's and Gayle's are quite short. Like...mine's. >.< OH AND NETLAVA, HOW COULD I FORGET NETLAVA

8) It's not like I'm voting as well, so I can't really say. Maybe they're just confused. It's only a scumtell if they already look quite scummy, in my opinion.

7) It wasn't.

6) Well, I explained it. So why should I feel weirded out?

5) Quite good, actually. You have been active, participated in the discussion, and scumhunted. Guess what's my opinion of you, really.

I still mantain my position.

4) Thankfully no. I suck as scum.

3) Useless. PBPA's are quite sucky, and I've only used them once. As scum. See the connection? Slight suspicion, but not enough for a vote.

I should elaborate on this, shouldn't I? Well, from post 0 to post whatever, I don't believe I remember a single sentence aside from Vote: insertnamehere. And no, "Don't like Neto" is not enough reason. Other people have stated their reasons...but you haven't, and you have switched from Neto to Gayle, to Neto again. Why is that, Elli?

2) Mmmmm. Neto/Gayle. He only mentioned Gayle twice, one in a positive (? I guess) light, the other, and I'm quoting here "Haylen and Gayle points". Yeah, only once Gayle as an actual player. Says camn doesn't post much, but never mentions Gayle. Geez I do wonder why.

1) Eeeeehmm.... I don't really know. As I said above, Neto and Gayle seem pretty closely connected, but saying that before flips is bad. I'll reread everyone in iso to tell you that...but especially netopalis.

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Sounds rather role-fishy to me.

You're at L-2 on a super swift game. Mmmm, no, not role-fishing.

@ Haylen, I'm looking foward to the second part of your post BECAUSE I WASN'T ON THE FIRST ONE *cries*

[Netopalis]

Yeah, but I'm at L-2 for crap reasons. That is not enough to substantiate a request for claim.

[Glork]

Finally, you are the one who said that you were voting me because I disliked bandwagons. That is a theoretical point.

I never said anything of the sort. Check your sources.

[Netopalis]

Unvote, Vote: Neto

I like wagoning. I also like seeing claims.

I took this, combined with KMD's attack because I don't like bandwagoning in the early game to be an attack on me because I don't like bandwagoning in the early game. Am I incorrect?

[Glork]

You are incorrect.


"I like wagoning" means that I like wagoning. It has nothing to do with anything or anybody else.

[Netopalis]

Well, then, redact the theory point. Your scummishness diminishes in my view.

[camn]

@Glork.. right now I am just gathering information. As I have opinions, I state them.. but mostly I am collecting data.

I build cases.. usually with questioning.
I think Neto's answer to the KMD-"flailing" question shows that he didn't really mean it the way that I (and KMD) understood it.... and I can see where he was coming from.
Of course, Elli's response to Neto's vote was so lacking as to be laughable.. .which need probing.

@Haylen : Incog.

[Haylen]

Mae, who was 305 in response to?

Neto, I find it easier to focus when I read players in iso. Before I iso'd, my thoughts on players used to be all over the place and I was more likely to be accused of crap logic.

[Netopalis]

Right, it's a useful tool...but the iso is what caused certain errors in your judgment.

[Maemuki]

Mr. Netopalis said that I needed to elaborate more so I did.

Now please do a PBPA on me. There are 13 players, you spoke about 11, 1 of them is you, I am the only one you ignored. :<

[Haylen]

I didn't ignore you, i'm just used to there being only 12 players in a game at the most, so my brain cut off the person last on the player list

[Haylen]

Unvote, Vote Zachrulez

Active lurking. I know you're around Zach, why dont you come out and play?

[Haylen]

As should Nikanor. Actually, he hasnt even posted yet!

Unvote, vote Nikanor

[Maemuki]

As should Nikanor. Actually, he hasnt even posted yet!

Unvote, vote Nikanor

He's not on the game, Haylen~

I didn't ignore you, i'm just used to there being only 12 players in a game at the most, so my brain cut off the person last on the player list Sad

THEN GO DO IT NOW *gets chocolate* I'll give you smarties~

[Haylen]

As should Nikanor. Actually, he hasnt even posted yet!

Unvote, vote Nikanor

He's not on the game, Haylen~

I didn't ignore you, i'm just used to there being only 12 players in a game at the most, so my brain cut off the person last on the player list Sad

THEN GO DO IT NOW *gets chocolate* I'll give you smarties~

Wait...he's not? O.o But he's always in games with me, now Haylen's sad

Ok...I'll go do your analysis.

[Ellibereth]

Camn, I was saying that if Neto is willing to vote for me because of the comic, why wasn't he willing to vote others for messing around too? He also accused me of having no original content. Methinks Gayle has less. My point was that he chose me over Gayle.
Townreads on Kmd+Mae are gut.

Neto's still scum.

[Zachrulez]

Unvote, Vote Zachrulez

Active lurking. I know you're around Zach, why dont you come out and play?

Appennine mafia all over again. I'm being drowned by the posting.

I've noticed SK's vote moving around a lot, most recently letting Netlava off the hook for lurking and never addressing his suspicions to move his vote to me.

I'm interested to see what he thinks of Netlava now since Netlava has gone quite a while without posting.

[Haylen]

Gayle is active lurking too. I'm drowning in posts too

[Netlava]

Yeah, I should be able to post all day in a little bit.

[Zachrulez]

Also Haylen and KMD strike me as town.