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Maemuki Mafia Scum
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Interesting; you believe DOS is town, then? Any specific reason for that?Maemuki wrote:Sarag, do you really want a dead-weight gunbearer? Do you really really want DoS to be the gunbearer?
So, your plan is to never shoot lurkers, to tell the scum that we won't ever shoot lurkers, and hope the scum decide never to take advantage of that?Don't think so. shooting scummy people > shooting lurkish people
By the way, I'm still waiting for you to answer my questions.I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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Bad logic isn't a scumtell.Bogre wrote: Nachomamma- Heavy More on the basis of Drake and Rewq, but interestingly enough has been primarily knocking at Xyl. (Like Howard) Rewq was very scummy, didn't contribute too much, and wasn't reasoning well.
There's not much I can say to this, really... If there is anything you'd like me to answer, questions help.
Since I've been around, he's been pretty quiet. Is there anything you'd like me to say about him? One scumtell doesn't make up a case, and I find indirect attacks on people generally considered protown scummy. Other than that, I don't really have much to say.Bogre wrote: Note Nachomamma and HR haven't said anything about each other."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Maemuki Mafia Scum
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Mmmm, no. I see why you thought that I thought that he was town (best sentence ever), but that's not the case. I'm just afraid of the possibility of DoS being town. Remember, not everyone can get a scum PM.Interesting; you believe DOS is town, then? Any specific reason for that?
Not really. Shoot scummy lurkers sure, but imagine they're town. Do you want a dead-weight gunbearer? But we shouldn't shoot someone just because they're lurking over somebody that we're more sure that is scum. ...did you understand?So, your plan is to never shoot lurkers, to tell the scum that we won't ever shoot lurkers, and hope the scum decide never to take advantage of that?
What questions?By the way, I'm still waiting for you to answer my questions.-
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Xylthixlm !xmafia win
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Maemuki wrote:Sarag, do you really want a dead-weight gunbearer? Do you really really want DoS to be the gunbearer? Don't think so.Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr#mafia@irc.globalgamers.net
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"Xyl's ruthless policy lynching won the game." -Vi-
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Maemuki Mafia Scum
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Xylthixlm !xmafia win
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You failed to actually address Yos's point. If you only shoot "scummy" lurkers, and don't consider lurking itself scummy, what is to stop scum from doing nothing at all and thus never getting shot? It's the logical scum response to your position. If you can't answer that it doesn't matter how reasonable your position seems; the logical consequence of it is the town losing, soMaemuki wrote:
Not really. Shoot scummy lurkers sure, but imagine they're town. Do you want a dead-weight gunbearer? But we shouldn't shoot someone just because they're lurking over somebody that we're more sure that is scum. ...did you understand?Yosarian2 wrote:So, your plan is to never shoot lurkers, to tell the scum that we won't ever shoot lurkers, and hope the scum decide never to take advantage of that?you had better find a different position.#mafia@irc.globalgamers.net
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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Xylthixlm wrote:
No. You should find someone who is scummy, period.Vala Mal Doran wrote:Well, I should ideally find someone who is scummy AND would make at least a semi-decent gunbearer if town, at least day 1 when we have relatively little info.Cast all thoughts of who would make a good gunbearer from your mind, and never think of them again.-
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Maemuki Mafia Scum
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These questions:Maemuki wrote:What questions?
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Because Xyl was being attacked for an obviously bad reason by both you and Nacho, and I'm trying to figure out if that means you and Nacho didn't understand mafia theory, or if it has more to do with one or both of your alignments.Maemuki wrote:
Why...did you just answer a question that was not directed to you?None of that is a scumtell.
Now explain this to me. Why is "leading the town" a scumtell? And why, when I explain to you that it's not, was your only reaction to criticize me for "answering a question directed at someone else" rather then respond to what I actually said?I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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Sarag Goon
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I believe DoS is scummy. He's not top of my list, but his lurking has gone on for far too long. A credible threat of being shot may pressure him to be more active and give us a better read. If it doesn't, he should be shot.Maemuki wrote:Sarag, do you really want a dead-weight gunbearer? Do you really really want DoS to be the gunbearer? Don't think so. shooting scummy people > shooting lurkish people
Xyl, Yos and Nacho have covered why your stance is bad policy and I agree with what they said.*twitches*-
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Elmo Mafia Scum
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Thedeadlineis Wednesday 6th January 2010, 22:00 UTC, which is 4 hours and 16 minutes previous to this post.
Bogrejust can't take the strain and opts to blow his brains out rather than risk hurting a townie. Ironic, seeing as he was one.
The mafia will now pick the next gunbearer; you have 48 hours, or random.org decides for you. The thread will be locked until the mafia make their selection.Succinctness is pro-town.
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Elmo Mafia Scum
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Day 3 dawns!
The gunbearer isDragonsofSummer.
Thedeadlineis Wednesday 27th January, 22:00 UTC, which is 18 days, 12 hours and 3 minutes from this post.Succinctness is pro-town.
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Xylthixlm !xmafia win
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Maemuki Mafia Scum
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HackerHuck Mafia Scum
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Yes it did. Let's hope DoS is a little more involved than he has been lately.Xylthixlm wrote:Well that sucked.
I'm a little surprised by the choice of gunbearer. At first I was happy that Ortolan would be soon revealed as scum, but now I'm wondering whether scum-Ortolan would risk giving DoS the gun.-
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*pulls the gun out of his mouth*
I apologize to you guys. I was traveling on deadline day, expected to be at a computer in time to shoot, however, there was bad weather and delays and a turn around, so I wasn't able too. Good luck, and sorry again.
*replaces the gun and ghosts off*ShowMurder, Corruption, Betrayal.
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=WIFOMHackerHuck wrote: I'm a little surprised by the choice of gunbearer. At first I was happy that Ortolan would be soon revealed as scum, but now I'm wondering whether scum-Ortolan would risk giving DoS the gun.-
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We are now in lylo. DoS, if you misfire, town loses.
I really hope you'll be a bit more active and please don't just shoot straight off the bat like you said you would. Ultimately you still just have to shoot who you think is most scummy, and the fact that scum handed you the gun doesn't change that. Please look at everyone, not just the few people you've commented on so far.
I'm hoping we'll see some better play from ortolan today. You've had one of your scumlist confirmed as town, so it's time to reassess.
I'm still comfortable with the cases on HowardRoark and HackerHuck. I feel worse about my case on DragonsofSummer. :p*twitches*-
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ortolan Mafia Scum
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LOL. nice try.Sarag wrote:I'm hoping we'll see some better play from ortolan today. You've had one of your scumlist confirmed as town, so it's time to reassess.Currently modding Mole Mafia: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=20529
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I would definitely kill Sarag over HackerHuck, when I read him in iso yesterday I couldn't help but think that *gasp* I might have been wrong about him.Currently modding Mole Mafia: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=20529
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AlmasterGM Mafia Scum
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This post is pretty interesting given who was selected as gunbearer.Maemuki wrote:Sarag, do you really want a dead-weight gunbearer? Do you really really want DoS to be the gunbearer? Don't think so. shooting scummy people > shooting lurkish people
More later when I can be bothered to read walls of text.
So if ortolan improves, would you still shoot him? How do you evaluate all that scummy shenanigans from yesterday?Sarag wrote:I'm hoping we'll see some better play from ortolan today. You've had one of your scumlist confirmed as town, so it's time to reassess.
I don't like this post - it almost seems to be telling DoS to quickshoot ortolan. At the same time, however, I think ortolan is scum. Not sure what to read off it.HackerHuck wrote:I'm a little surprised by the choice of gunbearer. At first I was happy that Ortolan would be soon revealed as scum, but now I'm wondering whether scum-Ortolan would risk giving DoS the gun.
I just did an ISO of Maemukai and all I'm seeing in terms of accusations is Sarag, and there's not much backing behind it. Mae, is Sarag your only suspect? If so, why? If not, who else and why?-
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Elmo Mafia Scum
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I was actually trying to say the opposite. I think DoS needs to reconsider whether Ortolan is really town.AlmasterGM wrote:
I don't like this post - it almost seems to be telling DoS to quickshoot ortolan. At the same time, however, I think ortolan is scum. Not sure what to read off it.HackerHuck wrote:I'm a little surprised by the choice of gunbearer. At first I was happy that Ortolan would be soon revealed as scum, but now I'm wondering whether scum-Ortolan would risk giving DoS the gun.
Nacho, I don't think you really understand WIFOM.
It looks like Sarag is correct and we're in LYLO, then selecting DoS makes more sense. I'll try and do a reread, since we don't want to count on DoS leading the way today.
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