Mini 201 - Game Over!

[vikingfan]

Correct-which means one of them has to be scum.

Elaborate more, both of you.

Someone, if you're the real vig too, speak up (otherwise stay silent). If he's the real vig, then both of them are likely scum (unless Someone is scum). If not, then one of them is telling the truth (Hez has already stated he's not the vig).

[Blackberry]

That's correct, I'm claiming Vig.

[vikingfan]

Do you have anything more that goes with your role, or not?

[Blackberry]

I win with town?

I don't have night protection or anything if thats what you're asking.

[Yanqush]

eh.... how about telling us who you mowed down last night and why?

[Phoebus]

I'd like to hear that as well.

[HezLucky]

Hey Phoebus, I'll ask this again.

Don't dodge the question this time.

Are you claiming vig?

[Someone]

Not the vig

And I want phoebus to answer the question.

[Phoebus]

Yes.
*tag* Blackberry's it.

[vikingfan]

OK, to both Phoebus and Blackberry-are you one-shot vigs or do you have multiple shots?

And since both Hez and Someone have said they're not vigs, and we know neither Yanqush or I can be one, this means two things. First, one of them is really the vig and the other is lying scum. Second, someone else is still scum. Even though we're going to lynch either Phoebus or Blackberry today, I still want to hear Hez's claim-it's going to be a lot easier tomorrow if we can make sure who's lying today.

[HezLucky]

You're assuming we have two scum left in making me claim.

I will not. We don't have two scum left.

We killed a scum and a traitor.

We have a scum and a serial killer.

2 scum, traitor and serial killer is enough badness for the game.

What we have left?
vikingfan's role
Doctor
Serial Killer
Vigilante
Mafia
Other <-- there's my claim, I'm not any of the above.

[HezLucky]

Thought just occured to me...

vikingfan
HezLucky
Someone - not vigilante
Yanqush - not vigilante
Phoebus - mafia OR vigilante
Blackberry - mafia OR vigilante

That may have nothing on you but it will after my analysis:

IF vikingfan is telling the truth: Someone or Yanqush is doc, by process of elimination, the other is serial killer. Yanqush was blocked and thus can't be serial killer ... it doesn't make sense. Therefore, Someone is our last evil.

HOWEVER, if Someone is our last evil, why would he choose not to kill on Day 1 as serial killer? The only explanation? Blackberry/Phoebus = serial killer and we have a mafia roleblocker on our hands.

FOS: vikingfan

Sorry, you aren't cleared. Thus, my claim is unsafe.

[vikingfan]

Not so, Hez. First, never outguess the mod.

Second, let's say we do have two bad guys. Either Phoebus or Blackberry must be one. Since there is only one counterclaim, I'm inclined to believe the real vig is also in that pair. So that clears them out. That means one of the rest of us must be scum. And it becomes quite obvious at that point what this means. Someone has already said he's not vig, and neither is Yanqush or I, or you. But then I must be inclined to think Yanqush is doc (though I don't know for sure). That means either you or Someone must have the extra role. That means the other is scum. So logically, Someone would be the other scum IF I believe you.

And in any case, I have to think of EVERY eventuality- it's likely we have only two baddies left, but if we have three, then the game changes significantly.

In any case, I'm willing to let this drop until tomorrow, assuming there is one, and go after either Blackberry or Phoebus.

[HezLucky]

Good, we'll let it drop until tomorrow.

For now, I'm re-reading to see if I can pick up clues.

Maybe someone can come up with a strategy that makes it so that we aren't guessing...

[vikingfan]

And you aren't cleared either Hez-nobody here is. I can quite easily think of a solution-either Blackberry or Phoebus is MAFIA and then you could be the SK. Or, alternatively, one of them is the SK(as originally theorized) and Someone is mafia.

FOS Hezlucky

. There is no indication whatsoever right now of who's of what killing party. I think personally it's far more likely that either Phoebus or Blackberry is SK, which leaves us with any one of us-including you- as the remaining mafia.

Now, there's an alternative. If we lynch mafia today, then I KNOW you're the SK due to prior reasoning of the SK belonging to that group of Phoebus, Hez, or Blackberry. That's why I'm looking for the claim- at least one of you is scum, and very possibly two.

[HezLucky]

Oh, and Someone's claim tomorrow will be VERY interesting as it will automatically clear someone.

[vikingfan]

But as said above, I'm letting the claim drop until tomorrow.

[HezLucky]

Well then, I hope one of them's the SK and not Mafia then

Or else there's a big gap in your logic.

[vikingfan]

That's fine-but if you can find a gap in that logic above, feel free.

But for today, it's Phoebus or Blackberry. I'm just hoping we can find a way to tell which of them is the true vig-that could help us out tomorrow, assuming there is one.

[HezLucky]

Can we infer anything from the fact that Phoebus didn't vote for Blackberry?

[HezLucky]

I'm afraid at this point I believe Phoebus more than I do Blackberry.

Blackberry kept hinting at who she thought was vig and never really "hinted" at herself.

That makes me think the roleclaim was out of the blue.

But I am not confident in this logic so I will not vote.

I want to hear from the four non-"vig" people

[vikingfan]

I'm honestly not sure yet-that's why I asked both for more info including whether it's a 'one-shot' or regular vig role. I gotta hear from both of them on this before I make my pick.

BTW, blackberry is a he.

[Blackberry]

I have the choice

every

night to kill or not kill.

I killed LML last night . I found his first few posts

very

suspiscious and then I got annoyed with his claiming 'he answered a question when he didn't'. I know his death-scene seems strange, I personally sent it in myself. I also ment to say smoother, not strangle .

[vikingfan]

OK, that seems strange to me. I believe (though I could be wrong) that vigs do not choose the method of execution- they just say "I want to kill LML," and the mod takes it from there.

If somebody else will confirm what I'm thinking, I'm putting on a vote. Until then, however, I'm going to use an

FOS Blackberry

.

Oh, and is your ability a one-shot or multiple times(directed at Phoebus as well). I want to know as much as I can before we hopefully lynch the guilty culprit.

[vikingfan]

Never mind the last paragraph of my above post, I just reread Blackberry's post above.