Mafia 103 - Ktown Mafia (Game Over)

[kunkstar7]

Well, that's weird. I was going to post a comment to cruelty about his voting pattern lately, but when I went to iso him for backup, it posted that tidbit.

I sort of see a bandwagon quickly forming here, just voting SJ with not too much reason, I mean basically cruelty is just hopping on to get the game sparked. Yes he has a little bit of reasoning for it but still. Unfortunately I do agree this game needs a jumpstart, mainly we need to get players back posting. Without Crue, Dana, SJ, posting its hard to build a current case on them, or to confirm if any of the cases we have now are well founded.

[Sir Chris]

Well after SJ the person I am most paranoid of is cruelty just because I had a misread on wicked.

[CrueKnight]

Well, that's weird. I was going to post a comment to cruelty about his voting pattern lately, but when I went to iso him for backup, it posted that tidbit.

I sort of see a bandwagon quickly forming here, just voting SJ with not too much reason, I mean basically cruelty is just hopping on to get the game sparked. Yes he has a little bit of reasoning for it but still. Unfortunately I do agree this game needs a jumpstart, mainly we need to get players back posting. Without Crue, Dana, SJ, posting its hard to build a current case on them, or to confirm if any of the cases we have now are well founded.

I agree. Remember, the mafia is almost a majority now. We have to watch for certain bandwagons.


Oh and BTW, my graphics card on my computer fried up last Friday. It'll take 2 weeks before I get it back from the manufacturer, so I'm going to be less active for the next 2 weeks.

ALSO, I'm going on vacation Jan 7-14. Sorry mates. If that seems like too long, you can replace me. Otherwise I won't mind to keep playing.

V/LA is noted.

[Kdub]

I will begin looking for replacements for SolemnJ and danakillsu.

Vote Count

CrueKnight (0)

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Furry (0)

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cruelty (0)

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Sir Chris (0)

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kunkstar7 (1)

- mikeburnfire

Faraday (0)

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SolemnJ (3)

- Furry, Sir Chris, cruelty

danakillsu (0)

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mikeburnfire (0)

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Heilograph (0)

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No Lynch (0)

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Not Voting (6)

- CrueKnight, kunkstar7, Faraday, SolemnJ, danakillsu, Heilograph

10 players alive, 6 votes needed to lynch.

Deadline is January 18, ~12:00 pm MST

[Faraday]

Woosh. Okay this is my only active game atm, (I.e. the rest are in night) so I'm going to have a read back today.


Sir Chris you seem to be playing very differently in this game than another game of yours, do you play differently every game or is there a reason for your difference in playstyle this game?

SolemnJ is still probably my top suspect and apparently a few others' top suspect too.
Could the other people not voting give their top suspect please?

[kunkstar7]

I agree. Remember, the mafia is almost a majority now. We have to watch for certain bandwagons.

This sentence here puts me off. Assuming that we have a three person mafia, we aren't close to a mafia majority for at least two days if we mislynch both days and there is a single night kill each night. Just seems to be a little fear-mongering. Do you have any certain bandwagons in mind that you are referring to, or just in general? I also did note you are V/LA but I needed to address this while its fresh for me.

[Heilograph]

I agree. Remember, the mafia is almost a majority now. We have to watch for certain bandwagons.

This sentence here puts me off. Assuming that we have a three person mafia, we aren't close to a mafia majority for at least two days if we mislynch both days and there is a single night kill each night. Just seems to be a little fear-mongering. Do you have any certain bandwagons in mind that you are referring to, or just in general? I also did note you are V/LA but I needed to address this while its fresh for me.

I think he is refering to any bandwagons in general since I don't think he knows who the next victim might be. Safe to say "look sharp" since a mafia member or two (assuming their is a 3 man mafia) could he on that/those bandwagons.

[Sir Chris]

Woosh. Okay this is my only active game atm, (I.e. the rest are in night) so I'm going to have a read back today.


Sir Chris you seem to be playing very differently in this game than another game of yours, do you play differently every game or is there a reason for your difference in playstyle this game?

SolemnJ is still probably my top suspect and apparently a few others' top suspect too.
Could the other people not voting give their top suspect please?

This game has been a lot less active than the other all the way through, so it is hard to get concrete reads and to keep interest in pressing the issue over and over again. I am having a hard time pinpointing any tells in this game and so it is making me tentative I guess, because I just don't have my A game here for whatever reason.

[Kdub]

don_johnson replaces SolemnJ. Still looking for a replacement for danakillsu.

[don_johnson]

can someone please explain to me why we lynched a vig on day 1?

[Faraday]

Due to her being horificially fucking scummy, iirc.


Any other questions, feel free to ask.

[don_johnson]

okay:

who should i vote for and why? please include post and/or page references. i reread the bit around the day 1 lynch. i find the fact that furry avoided the hammer to be odd. i didn't like the "i don't believe the claim" bullshit. the claim is never scummy. a persons actions are, so players voting because of disbelieveing the claim should be under scrutiny. the most common anti-town role fakeclaiming vig is and sk. it is pointless to lynch an sk on day 1. not sure why you guys didn't catch that.

856 is kind of odd as well. a two man mafia in a huge game? seems to be baseless speculation. i don't play many large games, but i think a two man mafia would just be stupid. i would guess at least three, more likely more, no?

[Furry]

who should i vote for and why?

You should be answering that one for yourself hun

i find the fact that furry avoided the hammer to be odd.

Ive only lynched someone I thought was obviously town once, and guess what, they were town. Not going to be voting someone I think is town.

the most common anti-town role fakeclaiming vig is and sk. it is pointless to lynch an sk on day 1. not sure why you guys didn't catch that.

You lynch anti-town, they need to be dead to win.

So who is scum? You seem to of read the game so lets hear it.

[don_johnson]

read the game? are you kidding? 35 pages and like seventeen replacements. i don't think so. if you want my vote somewhere, tell me why and point out the relevant areas for me to read.

and no. you don't lynch a claimed vig on day 1. its stupid. you offer to manipulate their killing ability and lynch them when you need to. its a waste of a lynch and this game is rock solid proof. if you were so sure on your town read, why did you acquiesce?

[Heilograph]

read the game? are you kidding? 35 pages and like seventeen replacements. i don't think so. if you want my vote somewhere, tell me why and point out the relevant areas for me to read.

Lazy people here, if you didnt want to read the game yourself then why did you replace in?

[Furry]

Go read the game, at very least skim it

[don_johnson]

what makes you think i need to read the entire game in order to find scum? scum are generally exposed in particular situations and/or by static evidence such as voting patterns. i'll read at my own pace, but i'm not going to sift through piles of shit for a diamond when there are more than enough of you who have been sifting through this shit from the beginning. if you don't want to engage me, then that's fine, but don't expect stellar contribution when you cannot reciprocate. so i will ask once more:

who should i be voting for and why?

[Furry]

yourself because you got a scum PM?

Seriously, you are the top vote getter. If the vote counts are so useful, go look at them and tell me who is scum. You claim to of read around the end of day one, who is scum based of that?

[don_johnson]

yourself because you got a scum PM?

this is just rude. if you don't want to present me with the case you seem to have on me so that i may respond with correlated analysis, then what is my incentive to be civil with you? i don't think i'm being rude here. my question should have rendered an actual answer. i know its frustrating to deal with replacements but its important to remember that replacing in isn't ever easy.

Seriously, you are the top vote getter. If the vote counts are so useful, go look at them and tell me who is scum. You claim to of read around the end of day one, who is scum based of that?

good idea. vote count analysis is how i caught my last scum. my top two suspects at the end of day 1 were you for your avoidance of the hammer and wickedestjr who i believe flipped town.

[mikeburnfire]

replacing in isn't ever easy.

This game moreso than others, I believe.

[Furry]

yourself because you got a scum PM?

this is just rude. if you don't want to present me with the case you seem to have on me so that i may respond with correlated analysis, then what is my incentive to be civil with you? i don't think i'm being rude here. my question should have rendered an actual answer. i know its frustrating to deal with replacements but its important to remember that replacing in isn't ever easy.

Probably was a bit over the line, but im a little tense right now with spring semester starting monday and having to move back to campus saturday (yeah that means light V/LA untill I get stuff worked out, dont expect me to be super active for a weekish).

But dont complain about replacing. That is almost all I ever do, so I know it can be hard, also I know that fully reading helps get a bearing on the game. Doubly so if you read BEFORE you get your role, as your role will skew your opinion on the game.

Seriously, you are the top vote getter. If the vote counts are so useful, go look at them and tell me who is scum. You claim to of read around the end of day one, who is scum based of that?

good idea. vote count analysis is how i caught my last scum. my top two suspects at the end of day 1 were you for your avoidance of the hammer and wickedestjr who i believe flipped town.

Right, I defend town reads. Haylen was a town read, so I was not going to be trying to get a town read, who was a town PR, who was proveable as a killing role, who wanted to kill mostly people I though were scum, lynched.

So what came of the VC analysis?

[mikeburnfire]

Just letting everyone know that I might be V/LA up to one week starting tomorrow. Hopefully this won't interrupt the game too much.

V/LA is noted.

[cruelty]

don i'd suggest looking at your predecessor in iso (i assume you already have), at furry (look at her stance vs voting for lurkers) and at cades/heilo.

[Faraday]

I think don if you skim a few people in iso what you'll notice more than anything is a general lack of content more than anything else.

I don't see the point in looking at your predecessor, as you can't explain his actions, though he has provided content it's been fairly questionable.

[don_johnson]

thanks guys. yes, i have skimmed my predecessor and i can see why the slot isn't suspicion free. i don't agree with hammering the vig day 1 for starters. i am sure there has to be scum on that wagon. if there is an actual case against me, i'd like to know more about it, though i can't explain sj's actions, it may help me understand more of what's going on.

i will do the suggested iso's and present my votecount analysis later on(furry- i am not glued to my computer, when i said "good idea", i meant i'll get to it. generally, this late in the game, the largest bandwagon will contain at least one scum if not more. what i need to see is how those players have been voting. also of consequence are players consistently not on any wagon, and lone voters who pursue weak cases that will never materialize.)