Llama wrote:If you also want to look at the 'who pushed what' part of this game. Take a look at how we played the late game. VPB hung back for the most part, happy to take part in the inevitable lynches (Elmo and Snow) while just defending himself (with the help of me and Spy). I on the other hand actually took some control making sure that Kise was able to be lynched, and sticking myself out there a bit to make sure that neither of us lost the game because people wised up quick enough.
lol.
I had been playing Spyrex since like day 2. I almost felt bad about it. Letting you live to support my claim was also my choice, as I could have easily killed you much sooner. Being strategic is good play, not bad.
Llama wrote:VPB went into coast mode, I went into 'achieve mislynch' mode. Basing who deserves it on late game play, its me since I actually was an active part of trying to get some mislynches as opposed to just following along with wagons.
This makes no sense. Let's look at activity if that's what you want to do....let's see here, iso button, Llama, go... 151 posts. ok
iso button, VP Baltar, go....303 posts.
And there you have it. Somehow i have coasted and yet posted twice as often as you and was never called out for anything like coasting or just going along with popular lynches. We can get into detailed arguments about it if you'd like, but I don't think you could be more wrong.
Llama wrote:Just think about it though, look at both our play through the game and put the vote down for who you think played a better game. If you dont belive im the SK, look at both of us as both anti-town alignments and vote who you think played a better game as either. I think no matter what you believe me to be I came out on top.
And rather than refuting any kind of argument I made about how he isn't the SK he simple reverts to "look at both of us as both anti-town alignments". This is an admission that he was lying about his role in the first place.
If you want, Sajin, we can both claim our actual flavor and see whose is more believable. (obviously Llama-liar should go first).
llama wrote:Seriously though, how does player A hid behind B, player C JKed B make you want to lynch one of them right off the bat? I figured it ment all of them were obviously town and it was going to be a pain to figure out the best way to NK all of them.
So it was going to be a pain to NK all of these folks you thought were confirmed town, and yet you didn't want to join the popular lynching wagons on them? That makes a lot of sense. I would think an SK in that situation would at least consider the possibility that they were scum trying to clear each other, which I did and was the truth.
llama wrote:You also forget BM was a completely inevitable lynch. No reason again as scum I wouldnt of jumped on and now been pulling the same 'lulz I lynched scum' thing you did.
Well, I don't know about you, but when I see an easy scum lynch against a team that's not me I'm more than happy to take it. I guess your main course of action is to let others take it for you?
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Llama wrote:If you also want to look at the 'who pushed what' part of this game. Take a look at how we played the late game. VPB hung back for the most part, happy to take part in the inevitable lynches (Elmo and Snow) while just defending himself (with the help of me and Spy). I on the other hand actually took some control making sure that Kise was able to be lynched, and sticking myself out there a bit to make sure that neither of us lost the game because people wised up quick enough.
lol.
I had been playing Spyrex since like day 2. I almost felt bad about it. Letting you live to support my claim was also my choice, as I could have easily killed you much sooner. Being strategic is good play, not bad.
Llama wrote:VPB went into coast mode, I went into 'achieve mislynch' mode. Basing who deserves it on late game play, its me since I actually was an active part of trying to get some mislynches as opposed to just following along with wagons.
This makes no sense. Let's look at activity if that's what you want to do....let's see here, iso button, Llama, go... 151 posts. ok
iso button, VP Baltar, go....303 posts.
And there you have it. Somehow i have coasted and yet posted twice as often as you and was never called out for anything like coasting or just going along with popular lynches. We can get into detailed arguments about it if you'd like, but I don't think you could be more wrong.
Llama wrote:Just think about it though, look at both our play through the game and put the vote down for who you think played a better game. If you dont belive im the SK, look at both of us as both anti-town alignments and vote who you think played a better game as either. I think no matter what you believe me to be I came out on top.
And rather than refuting any kind of argument I made about how he isn't the SK he simple reverts to "look at both of us as both anti-town alignments". This is an admission that he was lying about his role in the first place.
If you want, Sajin, we can both claim our actual flavor and see whose is more believable. (obviously Llama-liar should go first).
llama wrote:Seriously though, how does player A hid behind B, player C JKed B make you want to lynch one of them right off the bat? I figured it ment all of them were obviously town and it was going to be a pain to figure out the best way to NK all of them.
So it was going to be a pain to NK all of these folks you thought were confirmed town, and yet you didn't want to join the popular lynching wagons on them? That makes a lot of sense. I would think an SK in that situation would at least consider the possibility that they were scum trying to clear each other, which I did and was the truth.
llama wrote:You also forget BM was a completely inevitable lynch. No reason again as scum I wouldnt of jumped on and now been pulling the same 'lulz I lynched scum' thing you did.
Well, I don't know about you, but when I see an easy scum lynch against a team that's not me I'm more than happy to take it. I guess your main course of action is to let others take it for you?
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Llama wrote:If you also want to look at the 'who pushed what' part of this game. Take a look at how we played the late game. VPB hung back for the most part, happy to take part in the inevitable lynches (Elmo and Snow) while just defending himself (with the help of me and Spy). I on the other hand actually took some control making sure that Kise was able to be lynched, and sticking myself out there a bit to make sure that neither of us lost the game because people wised up quick enough.
lol.
I had been playing Spyrex since like day 2. I almost felt bad about it. Letting you live to support my claim was also my choice, as I could have easily killed you much sooner. Being strategic is good play, not bad.
Llama wrote:VPB went into coast mode, I went into 'achieve mislynch' mode. Basing who deserves it on late game play, its me since I actually was an active part of trying to get some mislynches as opposed to just following along with wagons.
This makes no sense. Let's look at activity if that's what you want to do....let's see here, iso button, Llama, go... 151 posts. ok
iso button, VP Baltar, go....303 posts.
And there you have it. Somehow i have coasted and yet posted twice as often as you and was never called out for anything like coasting or just going along with popular lynches. We can get into detailed arguments about it if you'd like, but I don't think you could be more wrong.
Llama wrote:Just think about it though, look at both our play through the game and put the vote down for who you think played a better game. If you dont belive im the SK, look at both of us as both anti-town alignments and vote who you think played a better game as either. I think no matter what you believe me to be I came out on top.
And rather than refuting any kind of argument I made about how he isn't the SK he simple reverts to "look at both of us as both anti-town alignments". This is an admission that he was lying about his role in the first place.
If you want, Sajin, we can both claim our actual flavor and see whose is more believable. (obviously Llama-liar should go first).
llama wrote:Seriously though, how does player A hid behind B, player C JKed B make you want to lynch one of them right off the bat? I figured it ment all of them were obviously town and it was going to be a pain to figure out the best way to NK all of them.
So it was going to be a pain to NK all of these folks you thought were confirmed town, and yet you didn't want to join the popular lynching wagons on them? That makes a lot of sense. I would think an SK in that situation would at least consider the possibility that they were scum trying to clear each other, which I did and was the truth.
llama wrote:You also forget BM was a completely inevitable lynch. No reason again as scum I wouldnt of jumped on and now been pulling the same 'lulz I lynched scum' thing you did.
Well, I don't know about you, but when I see an easy scum lynch against a team that's not me I'm more than happy to take it. I guess your main course of action is to let others take it for you?
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Llama wrote:If you also want to look at the 'who pushed what' part of this game. Take a look at how we played the late game. VPB hung back for the most part, happy to take part in the inevitable lynches (Elmo and Snow) while just defending himself (with the help of me and Spy). I on the other hand actually took some control making sure that Kise was able to be lynched, and sticking myself out there a bit to make sure that neither of us lost the game because people wised up quick enough.
lol.
I had been playing Spyrex since like day 2. I almost felt bad about it. Letting you live to support my claim was also my choice, as I could have easily killed you much sooner. Being strategic is good play, not bad.
Llama wrote:VPB went into coast mode, I went into 'achieve mislynch' mode. Basing who deserves it on late game play, its me since I actually was an active part of trying to get some mislynches as opposed to just following along with wagons.
This makes no sense. Let's look at activity if that's what you want to do....let's see here, iso button, Llama, go... 151 posts. ok
iso button, VP Baltar, go....303 posts.
And there you have it. Somehow i have coasted and yet posted twice as often as you and was never called out for anything like coasting or just going along with popular lynches. We can get into detailed arguments about it if you'd like, but I don't think you could be more wrong.
Llama wrote:Just think about it though, look at both our play through the game and put the vote down for who you think played a better game. If you dont belive im the SK, look at both of us as both anti-town alignments and vote who you think played a better game as either. I think no matter what you believe me to be I came out on top.
And rather than refuting any kind of argument I made about how he isn't the SK he simple reverts to "look at both of us as both anti-town alignments". This is an admission that he was lying about his role in the first place.
If you want, Sajin, we can both claim our actual flavor and see whose is more believable. (obviously Llama-liar should go first).
llama wrote:Seriously though, how does player A hid behind B, player C JKed B make you want to lynch one of them right off the bat? I figured it ment all of them were obviously town and it was going to be a pain to figure out the best way to NK all of them.
So it was going to be a pain to NK all of these folks you thought were confirmed town, and yet you didn't want to join the popular lynching wagons on them? That makes a lot of sense. I would think an SK in that situation would at least consider the possibility that they were scum trying to clear each other, which I did and was the truth.
llama wrote:You also forget BM was a completely inevitable lynch. No reason again as scum I wouldnt of jumped on and now been pulling the same 'lulz I lynched scum' thing you did.
Well, I don't know about you, but when I see an easy scum lynch against a team that's not me I'm more than happy to take it. I guess your main course of action is to let others take it for you?
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VP Baltar wrote:I had been playing Spyrex since like day 2. I almost felt bad about it. Letting you live to support my claim was also my choice, as I could have easily killed you much sooner. Being strategic is good play, not bad.
Yet you ignore my whole point about stopping doing anything but following the popular lynches and my push on Kise. Im not saying you didnt play Spy well, I am saying you werent a driving force behind finding a new mislynch, one that neither of us could NK as well.
Llama wrote:VPB went into coast mode, I went into 'achieve mislynch' mode. Basing who deserves it on late game play, its me since I actually was an active part of trying to get some mislynches as opposed to just following along with wagons.
This makes no sense. Let's look at activity if that's what you want to do....let's see here, iso button, Llama, go... 151 posts. ok
iso button, VP Baltar, go....303 posts.
And there you have it. Somehow i have coasted and yet posted twice as often as you and was never called out for anything like coasting or just going along with popular lynches. We can get into detailed arguments about it if you'd like, but I don't think you could be more wrong.
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Lets get into it actually. What lynches that werent popular did you push from scratch? I know Kise was my doing, I at least tried to get PZ lynched, you I cant remember doing much but getting out of the way of lynches that were doomed to happen (BM, Elmo, SB)
Yes you posted more then I did, but I did more to get the lynches that were needed for the win.
Llama wrote:Just think about it though, look at both our play through the game and put the vote down for who you think played a better game. If you dont belive im the SK, look at both of us as both anti-town alignments and vote who you think played a better game as either. I think no matter what you believe me to be I came out on top.
And rather than refuting any kind of argument I made about how he isn't the SK he simple reverts to "look at both of us as both anti-town alignments". This is an admission that he was lying about his role in the first place.
If you want, Sajin, we can both claim our actual flavor and see whose is more believable. (obviously Llama-liar should go first).
If he doesnt believe me about being the SK, I dont want to lose the game I came so far by myself on that alone. I think even if he buys you are the SK, I have played a better game as a whole, and want to get that point.
Also yes... the flavor I claimed about wanting to help really is my real flavor... of course.
llama wrote:Seriously though, how does player A hid behind B, player C JKed B make you want to lynch one of them right off the bat? I figured it ment all of them were obviously town and it was going to be a pain to figure out the best way to NK all of them.
So it was going to be a pain to NK all of these folks you thought were confirmed town, and yet you didn't want to join the popular lynching wagons on them? That makes a lot of sense. I would think an SK in that situation would at least consider the possibility that they were scum trying to clear each other, which I did and was the truth.
Right. I figured they were all town, and if one of them was going to get lynched I wasnt going to be a part of it and pick up some points for being off the wagon, and more points for pushing a scum wagon in the meantime. Them being scum made that plan backfire pretty harshly, but it was the right move I think. You just NK the JK and the cleared player from the hider. The hider will eventually die off with a bad move.
llama wrote:You also forget BM was a completely inevitable lynch. No reason again as scum I wouldnt of jumped on and now been pulling the same 'lulz I lynched scum' thing you did.
Well, I don't know about you, but when I see an easy scum lynch against a team that's not me I'm more than happy to take it. I guess your main course of action is to let others take it for you?
Yeah I should of just jumped that wagon. I was a little more intent on making sure that Ben/Elmo were going to get lynched though instead of pushing the easy lynch through.
llama wrote:Yet you ignore my whole point about stopping doing anything but following the popular lynches and my push on Kise. Im not saying you didnt play Spy well, I am saying you werent a driving force behind finding a new mislynch, one that neither of us could NK as well.
I ignored it because you haven't given any evidence to support it whatsoever. I gave counter evidence to your empty rhetoric, so the onus here is really on you my friend. Also, I wasn't on the Kise lynch, so I don't know how I followed your push on the Kise lynch. That actually wasn't very useful at all for me, so why would I support it?
llama wrote:Lets get into it actually. What lynches that werent popular did you push from scratch? I know Kise was my doing, I at least tried to get PZ lynched, you I cant remember doing much but getting out of the way of lynches that were doomed to happen (BM, Elmo, SB)
All of your freaking scum buddies getting lynched I had a hand in. Elmo was a lynch I was pushing for a long time due to his voting abilities. Kmd I had a hand in. The final push for Snow Bunny was also largely due to me working on Spyrex the entire game. If you don't think I've had anything to do with the outcome of this game, then you're either delusional or making one of the weakest rhetoric-based arguments I've seen in awhile.
Llama wrote:Right. I figured they were all town, and if one of them was going to get lynched I wasnt going to be a part of it and pick up some points for being off the wagon, and more points for pushing a scum wagon in the meantime. Them being scum made that plan backfire pretty harshly, but it was the right move I think. You just NK the JK and the cleared player from the hider. The hider will eventually die off with a bad move.
Yes, well I guess the facts are there. You called all of the scum town for as long as possible while I was pushing for their lynches. I'm sure your theory sounds more likely to be the truth.
Llama wrote:Yeah I should of just jumped that wagon. I was a little more intent on making sure that Ben/Elmo were going to get lynched though instead of pushing the easy lynch through.
lol, so instead of lynching a scum who is your main rival in this game you were worried about getting a town mislynch? How did that seem likely to you since you apparently considered the BM lynch to be inevitable? That's not even logically consistent. What is even more comical is that you don't mention either ben or elmo that day as a scum suspect, nor do you even vote anyone. All you talk about is your own role and whether or not you should claim your "info".
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My role was obviously meant to be a miller for the name cop(s). My flavor was so incredibly scummy and different from everyone else's that I changed it for my claim (yes you know that whole The Giver's gender thing? That was because of my fabrication).
My real flavor was that I was born with no power, the only one and that I could submit a name to the mod and maybe something would happen. And submit I have, once every damn night. I thought the 2 of you may find that humorous. Maybe not.
(Side note CKD, I hope you realize that my role PM felt just like your advocate PM on California Trilogy. I would not have even claimed I was the unknown if you did not put in bastardized town cops who evidently could really only catch me trying to not claim scummy but legit flavor. I find that INCREDIBLY STUPID)
I dislike you both for achieving zero cross kills.
But fair enough VPB: You asked for a no lynch and a no lynch it will be. The scum know who each other are. Something tells me the SK is kill immune though....so good luck with that, but if I were to lynch, it would be in favor of the SK anyways.
Keep in mind that killing me gives yourself a 0 percent win chance. Good luck!
The citizens in Suciro were startled and alarmed and people began rushing out of the Inner City, screaming that The Giver had been murdered. The last word the citizens got, was that The Dark Goma Influencer had sealed the gates to find those responsible.
At first, the citizens heard explosion and violence that could only mean death and fighting. Over the days the noises became quieter to the point there were none. They tried several different ways to penetrate the Inner City, but due to the excellent nature of the engineers who built it, there were none. Finally a ram was constructed and the gates were bashed in. It took several days, but 11 days after the gates were sealed, the citizens of Suciro entered the Inner City. The smell was the first thing the noticed. Burnt or decaying flesh, excrement, and smoke. There were bodies everywhere. What happened here? The first body they came across was that of LlamaFluff.
LlamaFluff,
The Baker, With the Converters
, Strangled Night 11
(THE CONVERTERS LOSE!)
Sifting through the devastation they began to think that everything and everyone was lost. Until they found the body of Sajin. At first they thought he was dead like the rest. He had numerous bruises and lacerations around his neck and body. His body was extremely dehydrated and looks close to death. His clothes were shredded. It almost looked like his clothes took life and tried to kill the weakened man. However, he WAS alive.
Sajin,
The Unknown, With the Council,
Alive
(The COUNCIL GETS A DRAW)
The Citizens asked him what happened. The only thing he could say was “The Master of the Cloth” before he succumbed to unconsciousness. The Citizens thought it must have been a name, but uncertain who it was. They searched the entire city and never found anyone by that name.
VP Baltar,
The Master of the Cloth, For Himself,
Missing and Alive.
(THE MASTER OF THE CLOTH GETS A DRAW)
Perhaps in the days to come, if The Unknown lives, they can find out what occurred here. Later, these 11 days would be known as the Massacre of the Cloth.
Whatever the future holds, it is certain that the Dark Goma is no longer safe in the city.
STAY TUNED FOR THE DARK GOMA II
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Roles, night actions, and comments are to follow. What you want to know right now though, is why the draw. The short of it is, The Unknown (unbeknownst to him) was a NK immune townie. The Master of the Cloth’s (essentially an SK) win condition was to be the last one alive. Going down to 1 vs. 1, the SK couldn’t lynch the last townie and could NK him. I came up with a couple different scenarios how to resolve this, but this was the most fair. In the future, I will change the SK’s win condition to “Last to be alive, or no one else has the ability to kill you” (thanks Vi)
That being said, I think VP Baltar played an amazing game and this should be counted as a win for him in my book and will be nominating him for some type of award once the 2010 nomination are avaiable.
I hope you had fun because I did put a lot of work into this game. When I post the roles, I will also post additional thoughts about that player if I have them.
I will be modding another (a part II to the story) probably in a month, will take pre-ins.
This game was terribly swingy. But when you enter into a game that everyone has a “power” you have to expect that. I tried to add roles to the town, that would hinder or confuse (see chaos mentions later)it, but as the game continued, I think it was slightly in the towns favor. Another reason I think VP did so well.
Another note: I think all claims hurt the town in this game. Everytime someone claimed, it used against them or manipulated. More on this later if I have time.
“TOWN”
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Notes: Shot load way too early. Maybe too new to play in the this particular game?
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Notes: Was hoping this role would stay around. I am sure some creative art would have come out of this role. Purely flavor.
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Notes: this was the first role/relationship I created for the game. He was essentially just a vig. A mean guy, but with the town anyway. However, the rats (discussed later) were out to get him (of course he didn’t know). Think Pop, would have been a force to deal with if he had stayed in the game. He was only a 3 shot vig.
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Notes: Was the Doc. Kscope didn’t do the town in favors.
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Notes: This was by far my favorite role in this game. Essentially a body guard with the death. However, I knew the chaos that the role would throw into the game. The bodies the next day, lead to much conversation. Also if the cloner had been around when claiming went down, that would have thrown a wrench into things. Example: the RBer claims to have targeted X who had been cloned…the RBer RBs the clone, but not the player, who is free to do his action…in a claim scenario, the RBer looks like a liar..chaos. In hindsight, I think it is hilarious DGB got this role.
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Notes: this was another role that I felt were hurt the town, more than help it. I was curious how the player that got this role would handle it. Tell or not? Vollkan choose not to tell (which I think lead to his death). Only active abilities triggered this effect, mafia kills were physical and SK was special. This was one of those roles, to help balance the game out of the towns favor. Most of the Active abilities belonged to town. However, nothing really happened with the role.
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Note: Another balancing role (again, most active abilities were among the town). Was replaced twice. Unfornately, SC targeted the SK and the Alchemist, both having special powers. What was funny, was that the same nights (I think) SC and DGB targeted the same person. Sooo it looked like SC was doing it. Also even if the two didn’t have special powers, SC wouldn’t have gotten an ability anyway, because he only targeted clones.
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Notes: The cop. He was able to peg one of the mafia (which lead to the fall of most of the scum). Curious why he targeted dramonic, I felt he was playing a decent game. Of course, this result lead to his death.
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Notes: I added some flavor here that I thought might get people going. Plum realized there were pieces to this puzzle. Name finders that had to work together. They did on the most part. If one died, the other could still name find, but only at a 50% success rate. Essentially they were neighbors. These roles were there to catch name liars…also, they might have indirectly assisted the rats find The Rodent Tamer.
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Notes: I knew this role would be misconstrued. Usually sanity refers to cops and investigations, but I never said that was the case. In this case, the SK was “completely insane”. He was there to nullify the SK. It didn’t help mafia at all to have killed him.
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Notes: You usually don’t see two vote manipulators with the same alignment. Again, I hate when people assume things.
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Notes: I knew right off the bat that I was going to put his name heavy in the flavor. I figured someone might push a case that a name wouldn’t be used in the flavor…More assuming. Was curious how someone might play a double voter…took a while to place the vote, which I feel was the correct move.
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Notes: just a basic RB. Originally, I had the mafia jailer as town, but switched last second.
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Notes: Different type of role. Many assumed the next day he could switch his vote around, but he couldn’t. Fake claimed a bit, don’t know if it helped or hurt the town.
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Notes: this was one of the few bastard mod decisions in this game. There was no Cult. If the was a MVP award for behind the scenes questions, it would go to stark. He asked me close to 30 questions trying to figure out exactly what this role was. I began to feel incredibly bad for stark, because he was trying VERY hard to help the town with this role. Not to mention he perceived a entirely different threat to the town.
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Notes: the other part of the name finder team
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Notes: I am surprised she lasted as longer as she did. However, she nailed the situation perfectly with this post. “There's an interest thing I found on the doc thing. They both claimed half-doctors, and for that they are considered townie (having balls of steel or something like that). However, what if one is the SK and the other scum? One claimed first, claiming only half doctor. A CC wouldn't be a strong scumtell, as though the claim is odd, it's still possible. Then, the other, not knowing that the other one is actually lying, decides to go for the same, making it a good claim. So, I'm leaning towards one being the SK, and the other scum.”
Too bad no one listened to her.
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Notes: Really enjoyed watching Spy play this role. Unfornately he took VP’s word on a result and it lead him astray. Here are the potions he used.
Used
Gold (poison, looks sick for one day, purely flavor)
Brown (does nothing).
Black (1 shot cop, active),
Reflective (target knows that the Alchemist target them that night, but doesn’t know why…no other result)
Red (gives player 1 shot RB, active),1
Expired:
Yellow (turns player into a SK, Keeps former ability, can do both, turns “completely insane”)
Sandy (following day if player is lynched, he chooses who dies instead, player doesn’t know until he is lynched)
Green Jelly (1 shot doc, active),
This potion expired after Night 3 (I think) need to check the notes…another role mechanic, was if this potion expired, it was poured into the sewers (told him this in his night PM the night of expiration). IF the rats, were still alive, they would get a one shot night kill (Vi’s idea, thanks)
Not used.
Blue (give player one shot Power finder, active),
Purple (1 shot vig, active),
Orange (following day, player can only talk using two words, votes do not count),
Clear (poison, permanently at -1 to lynch, player doesn’t know but looks sick for rest of game),
Pink (Poison, dies the following night, player doesn’t know but looks sick, can be prevented by doc protect),
White Powder (makes target smell like sour milk for one day, purely flavor)
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Notes: much like the sculptor, purely flavor. Chamber missed getting in his choices several times, I was surprised that he was not lynched sooner for that, since his night action was obvious and apparent.
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Notes: Player is NK immune, but doesn’t know it. Each night the player can target someone, but is given a “no result”. Sajin targeted everyone, to include the dead and himself to try to figure out this role.
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NEUTRAL
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Notes: Disappointed on how KMD played this one. However, his claim, spun so much chaos and assumptions that it was entertaining from my end. I made the decision to not inform the player who the Rodent tamer was, to make it a bit harder for him. I also designed the rodent tamer being the vig on purpose. If KMD had lasted longer, I think he would have distractly changed the outcome of the game.
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SK
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Notes: I went back and forth on if I should make the SK mafia kill immune. I decided on it. However, there was about 100 ways for the town to off him. The vig being the major one. Also Lynching. VP’s play was awesome. The doc claim was great, and Llama jumped right on that as well. At this point, though, you both knew the other was lying. Mafia had ways to find him and stop him (more on this later). Good job VP.
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MAFIA
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Notes: KK was the first to go, but due to the way actions happened, was able to get one note off…..to the SK “Kmd4390 wins with Benmage's lynch”
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Notes: I thought dramonic was playing a good game. Was surprised by Zito’s investigation of him. However, his death lead to the fall of the mafia.
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Notes: A mafia Hider? Yeah, I did. Always wanted to see one and how it would be played out. I thought tubby’s play was..meh, after dramonic was lynched, he and BM looks all types of scummy.
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Notes: BM, I love you man…I do. But your play was BAD. First of all, he didn’t consult or night talk with the mafia before submitting some kills. He scoffed at mafia having a tracker. This was one of the way mafia had to find VP and earn townie points. I am not sure why BM felt it was a good idea for the tracker to not track and kill, versus the hider. This being said, killing the Pop night one was a good move. I was disappointed by BM in this game…did yo RL stuff going on?
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Notes: Mafia Doc and Godfather, and cop investigation immune. Love mafia Docs, plus I thought it would help balancing the game. Kudos the Llama, Was the best thing that could happen for the mafia after dramonic was offed. He tried his best, but painted himself in the corner with his the doc claim. He was the first to figure out VP was the SK, but could do anything about it because of his claim. If VP flipped scum, Llama would look scummy as hell. It was a good try Llama. Also, need to review the criteria for the “lost cause” award. His SK claim on the last day I felt was inspired…Sajin, didn’t go for it though.
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It is going to take me a couple days to get the night choices out…it is on 2 different comps.
Last edited by curiouskarmadog on Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:47 am, edited 1 time in total.
Very well played guys. I think Sajin did well to deal with his difficult role, and VP obviously played well. Given that that wasn't a fakeclaim that was handed to you (I assume) you've done fantastically well. When you claimed I thought I had gotten you wrong and had thrown the town into a buch of suspicion over nothing, it was only when you kept not dying and you had this supposed self protect (and you failed to protect one night that seemed to go completely unmentioned) that I started to re-suspect you.
I actually thought you and llama were almost certainly scum together, given he ahd defended you every time I pushed you and was among the harshest critics of my night action choices.
My breadcrumb only breadcrumbed you didn't have an active ability and was almost impossible to find, so apologies to Spyrex for making him hunt for nothing, but we really should have resolved that before I died, like I tried to a couple of times. Here's the crumb, first letters of part of the sentence spells 'no active'.
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ager to get baltar to tell us what ability he has, if any, and I'll confirm. Might go some way towards advancing the town.
I thought when Spyrex asked Llama if his ability was active it might start to dawn on the town, especially since Llama actually got it WRONG and had to correct himself, but again it got swept under the rug unfortunately.
Anyways, very well played all. I enjoyed the setup but it's not actually my favourite. It's nice to get a role for sure but also so confusing as to not feel like mafia at times. Still, I thought some of them ore unique roles were great and there was some really interesting ideas in the setup, so thanks for that CKD.
Well, nerts. I had a feeling that Sajin was UNK since I tried to take him out very early (N1?) and he lived.
I was trying to think of a way to get Llama to help me lynch him the last day, but as I figured he knew very well I was UNK I didn't think he would go for it and I didn't want to push my luck to a point where I might have been lynched out of spite.
GG all and thanks for modding ckd. This was a lot of fun and even though it ended in a draw (all that effort for naught!), I would definitely pre-in for the next game when it comes around.
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Too busy with work to play mafia right now but I shall return some day!
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
"She's sort of like a quantum computer, her reads exist in multiple states at once. u have to take into account the other dimensions." - Morning Tweet
SerialClergyman wrote:That's another thing, CKD - as if I touch the SK and don't get any reward for it
Was my role meant to be useful only in stealing town abilities?
there were a ton of active abilities for you to grap. plus, you were a version of a role cop..if someone claimed something (active) and you targetted them but got something different....you would have caught a lie.
also (I need to check)...you targetted after DGB and you only targetted clones...so technically you didnt target the SK, but if you had, you would not have gotten anything.
Oh and here's my formal apology, Spyrex. Soooowwwwwyyyy. You were my personal gold card to endgame.
yeah the "spy you RBed me was great"..actually spy gave you the ability to RB
What sucks is that I was super excited about getting that ability...and then I realized that there weren't many threats to me left at that point so I just burnt it on Battle Mage.
YOUR AD HERE
Too busy with work to play mafia right now but I shall return some day!
Oh and here's my formal apology, Spyrex. Soooowwwwwyyyy. You were my personal gold card to endgame.
yeah the "spy you RBed me was great"..actually spy gave you the ability to RB
What sucks is that I was super excited about getting that ability...and then I realized that there weren't many threats to me left at that point so I just burnt it on Battle Mage.
that night (again I need to get the info together) BM was blocked twice...and I pretty sure he submitted the kill that night.
