Mini 897 - OpenSource Mafia - Game over!!

[UncertainKitten]

There is something that stands out about that list that doesn't sit well with me at this point of time.

I think I know what it is, but for the time being I'll let it go.

[Snow_Bunny]

Well, one thing is odd. All the claims have been of OS, not services. Thus, Faraday's claim looks shaky from that point of view.

[Iecerint]

I suppose it's Google not getting a cute nickname?

[Phate]

Faraday's claim does stand out from that point of view. Google has two OS' - the Android (a mobile OS), and the Google Chrome OS (a web-only OS) - all the other claims are of operating systems (CrApple rather than Mac, WinBlows rather than MicroSucks, etc), and all the other claims (barring possibly Linux, which this game seemed advertised to revolve around) have had a nickname.

[SocioPath]

Correct on all accounts. I was hoping someone to tell me I'm wrong, but that would require someone else with the same sort of company claim.

In fact,

Unvote
Vote: Faraday

That is the most solid damning thing in this game, unless someone else can claim something similar.

[Pomegranate]

I think that it's out of place, but I'm not ready to vote Fara for it now. The mod told us not to pay much attention to flavor (if I'm not mistaken), and it's possible that we're being messed with, as this is a Bastard game. But with that said, I agree that it doesn't fit well.

[Iecerint]

Hmm. I suppose I'll just think of it as lynching JL.

Unvote; Vote: Faraday

. Too bad; he's fun to play with.

[SocioPath]

I think that it's out of place, but I'm not ready to vote Fara for it now. The mod told us not to pay much attention to flavor (if I'm not mistaken), and it's possible that we're being messed with, as this is a Bastard game. But with that said, I agree that it doesn't fit well.

There are claimed roles that switch people's operating systems.
Google is not an operating system.
So you can't 'switch' from Google to something else.
No flavor required.

[Iecerint]

Hmm. That's true. It's even in the rules:

7) Any and all flavor used in this game is present solely for the purpose of entertainment and does not give insight in any way into the setup of this game or alignment of any player.

So Pom may be right.

[Iecerint]

Have the role-swappers said specifically that they change the OS? I can't remember. That would make the Google claim suspect enough to overrule Rule 7 IMO.

[UncertainKitten]

Correct on all accounts. I was hoping someone to tell me I'm wrong, but that would require someone else with the same sort of company claim.

In fact,
Unvote
Vote: Faraday

That is the most solid damning thing in this game, unless someone else can claim something similar.

I was wrong then...I thought it was the fact that there was an easy access list of claims for scum to use, given by Iec.

So...yeah, so much for that.

I do agree you have a good point on Faraday at this point...but...argh, I dunno, this feels like a convenient counterwagon to take out a cop and save a scum. I don't like it.

[UncertainKitten]

Have the role-swappers said specifically that they change the OS? I can't remember. That would make the Google claim suspect enough to overrule Rule 7 IMO.

This is very relevant.

[SocioPath]

Thats what I've gathered.

And I'm speaking more from a mechanical perspective, rather than a flavor one.

And rule 7 shouldn't be a 'Claim Out Of Jail Free Card'.

[UncertainKitten]

Thats what I've gathered.

And I'm speaking more from a mechanical perspective, rather than a flavor one.

And rule 7 shouldn't be a 'Claim Out Of Jail Free Card'.

I agree here. Honestly, I think the cop claim is what has me sticking at this point.

I'll await the response of alignment switchers like s_b.

[Iecerint]

I was wrong then...I thought it was the fact that there was an easy access list of claims for scum to use, given by Iec.

wat?

I dunno, this feels like a convenient counterwagon to take out a cop and save a scum.

Phate claimed Cop, too. Worst case scenario isn't any different.

[Pomegranate]

Have the role-swappers said specifically that they change the OS? I can't remember. That would make the Google claim suspect enough to overrule Rule 7 IMO.

This is very relevant.

[UncertainKitten]

Phate claimed Cop, too. Worst case scenario isn't any different.

He did!?

Well, that does alter the situation a bit. Will wait for s_b though.

wat?

I think weirdly, ok? As I followed through my thoughts I did kinda think "but that's silly, Iec would be able to make said list in a QT or something without arousing suspicion".

I did miss the non OS thing which was pretty terrible on my part.

[SocioPath]

I was wrong then...I thought it was the fact that there was an easy access list of claims for scum to use, given by Iec.

Knowing how and where the town stands is not scummy.
The information is public.
I've never even considered such to be scummy.

I'll await the response of alignment switchers like s_b.

I think it was more from GM saying he WANTED to switch OSes, rather than the switchers themselves.

[UncertainKitten]

I think it was more from GM saying he WANTED to switch OSes, rather than the switchers themselves.

I'm aware. Effectively, s_b might have to claim a little more flavor to resolve this. I think it's worth it though.

Knowing how and where the town stands is not scummy.
The information is public.
I've never even considered such to be scummy.

See previous post. It puzzled me as I thought it throught.

[Iecerint]

I think SB followed up by saying something like "Alma, what if I told you that I don't give out free Linux CDs. Should I still target you?" This was around when people started pointing out that Alma had claimed scum without people getting excited about it (or at least was a townie who hadn't considered the potential negative effects of roleswap ^^; ). Could still be that she changes OSes, though. Would like to hear more.

[Snow_Bunny]

I think rule 7 is there to prevet massclaim breaking the game. But that's just me.

Ok, I'll fullclaim. I'm Linux cop, and I'm a Network Administrator. My network is fast and smexy, and each night I can investigate a player. I will get a guilty or innocent or no result. Then, if I get a result, I can run a super smexy hack (alignment script) to change their alignments. Oh, and I win when all threats to town are eliminated. Nothing about switching OS. And that's why I think it's a cult game. A bunch of networks, and DOS users (see mod's initial post) to be converted to different networks.

But we all know that WinBlows blows and crApple is crappy, so Linux is the option to go.

[UncertainKitten]

I think SB followed up by saying something like "Alma, what if I told you that I don't give out free Linux CDs. Should I still target you?" This was around when people started pointing out that Alma had claimed scum without people getting excited about it (or at least was a townie who hadn't considered the potential negative effects of roleswap ^^; ). Could still be that she changes OSes, though. Would like to hear more.

Yeah, basically this. I do recall that discussion, but there still could be something there that will help us with Faraday.

[UncertainKitten]

hmm...I don't think you needed to full claim, s_b, merely tell us you don't switch OS'.

But, that said, I think I'll stick with my Phate vote then ^-^.

I'll admit this makes my night choice decisions a little harder.

[Snow_Bunny]

Hint: Protect me! ^_-

Hint2forthosewhoarentassharptogetthejokeinthefly

It's a joke

[MafiaSSK]

So I would like to note, that my role did not say that I could convert alignments. However, this is due to different circumstances.