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Post Post #2025 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:33 pm

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CSL wrote:
Mod, in case of tie at deadline, is it a no lynch, or does the one who received the number first get lynched?
In the case of a tie at deadline, a No-Lynch will be achieved.

Just a quick reminder: If another full No-Lynch + No-Kill cycle is achieved I will declare the game a draw between all remaining factions.
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Post Post #2026 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:35 pm

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CSL wrote:manho, can you provide reasons from your readthrough?
Are you going to respond to MY points?
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Post Post #2027 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:37 pm

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Where, Sajin?
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Post Post #2028 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:39 pm

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I won't let scumSajin get away with a draw.
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Post Post #2029 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:48 pm

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1- ok why are you still voting when you have not read most of the thread and you have not responded to my reasons for wanting to no lynch? Which is, as I recall, your reasons for voting in the first place.

2- Additionally please tell me why I as scum would of bothered to get Malp and deathnote out of 1v1 with each other over the bodyguards death issue.


Point 1 is referencing post 1993.
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Post Post #2030 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:41 pm

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Sajin, why did you want to vote no lynch at the start of the day?
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Post Post #2031 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:46 pm

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CSL wrote:@ Sajin: No. I was just posting some of my thoughts from the previous three pages, including this one. I will not accept a no lynch unless there really is no other way.

I will be busy tonight, so I'll try to get the first 15, or so, pages read by the time I go to bed.
Ordinarily I would consider you scummy for voting anyone while claiming to have not read the thread. Your lucky malp is obv town.

You do realize the reason I am for a no lynch is to

1: get better odds.

2: To force your role to have an effect. Lynching today negates its effect entirely.

3: Because scum is being snarky and not killing or refusing to kill the fairly obvious town doctor. The only reason I would consider lynching today is because malp/you are obvious town in my eyes. However another interesting angle to explore would be that scum really does have no kill as dramonic was claiming. After all, there have only been 2 kills every day and we did have a double kill SK flip. Does anyone else have any thoughts on that? If they do not, then we have 2 lynches here. But I find it incredibly stupid that the onus is on town to lynch at 4 man, as that should never be the case. I argue this same point on #mafia all the time when the mafia wants to keep no lynching to get a draw. Its stupid. A 1 time tactical no kill to try to force missinformation? Awesome. Trying to artificially improve odds by refusing to kill until the draw is forced? Stupid. I find it even more stupid that we are being forced into lynching by the mod but thats talk for post game.


Please read the rest of the thread and get back here, CSL. In particular, you need to read the reason why malp has been protecting me: scum really had no motivation to seek clarification for what happened with the tracker/bodyguard death night. Malp and deathnote (dead SK) both claimed a protection on one of those 2 and therefore were CCing each other. With only 2 kills this was impossible with only one protection so I figured out what the wrong assumption here was and asked the mod about it. After the mod's interpertation about bodyguards was clarified, then it was obvious that malp could of actually protected the bodyguard and still had the bodyguard die and it was quite impossible for deathnote to have protected our tracker as it would of taken 3 kills to cause what we saw happen. Therefore he claimed mafia which made zero sense and we lynched him.

Thats my summary from my perspective but please go read it for yourself.


If he wants to lynch though we are lynching then. Lets start discussing.

@Manho- Who is scum and why?

@Tajo who is scum and why?
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Post Post #2032 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:52 pm

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Kay, CSL is now also confirmed to be nonmafia with killing ability.

csl, you probably dont need to read the whole game, just the last pages, specially after the last half of page 65.
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Post Post #2033 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:24 pm

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we need to lynch sajin!!!

he is the scum!!!
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Post Post #2034 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:59 am

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Sajin wrote:1- ok why are you still voting when you have not read most of the thread and you have not responded to my reasons for wanting to no lynch? Which is, as I recall, your reasons for voting in the first place.

2- Additionally please tell me why I as scum would of bothered to get Malp and deathnote out of 1v1 with each other over the bodyguards death issue.


Point 1 is referencing post 1993.
No lynch = Draw.

You(scum) wanted to no lynch. Therefore, you are scum wanting to go for a draw.

Tajo, we can go after manho tomorrow if Sajin flips town. If we let Sajin go now, and kill manho today, Sajin will be scum who slipped under the radar, and win the game for his scummates.
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Post Post #2035 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:18 am

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CSL wrote:
Sajin wrote:1- ok why are you still voting when you have not read most of the thread and you have not responded to my reasons for wanting to no lynch? Which is, as I recall, your reasons for voting in the first place.

2- Additionally please tell me why I as scum would of bothered to get Malp and deathnote out of 1v1 with each other over the bodyguards death issue.


Point 1 is referencing post 1993.
No lynch = Draw.

You(scum) wanted to no lynch. Therefore, you are scum wanting to go for a draw.

Tajo, we can go after manho tomorrow if Sajin flips town. If we let Sajin go now, and kill manho today, Sajin will be scum who slipped under the radar, and win the game for his scummates.
Did you read any of my post? At all?
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Post Post #2036 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:21 am

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Yes, Sajin. I did. Still convinced you are scum.
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Post Post #2037 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:24 am

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CSL wrote:Yes, Sajin. I did. Still convinced you are scum.
Ok well consider the possibility that you could be wrong.

And respond to the 2 questions/points that I asked of you.
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Post Post #2038 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:28 am

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Either the scum lost their brains, and thought malp was lying, or they haven't even bothered to read the thread during the night. I'm alive because the scum have made BAD moves.

Possibility considered.

STILL think you are scum.
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Post Post #2039 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:32 am

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You have not addressed either point.....
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Post Post #2040 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:35 am

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2034 was the first one. Read it carefully.

2038 was a summary of the 2nd point. Want me to waste 3 hours?
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Post Post #2041 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:41 am

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Is anyone there?
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Post Post #2042 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:47 pm

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Ugh. Looks like scum will get away with a draw...
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Post Post #2043 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:33 am

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please vote sajin!!! he's the scum!!!
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Post Post #2044 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:54 am

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manho, if you don't provide any reasons, I'm going to vote you.
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Post Post #2045 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:44 am

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EBWOP:
FoS: manho


Provide reasons. You lack evidence.

Unvote


After looking at my actions again, there is no way Sajin can be scum.

It's either Tajo, or manho, as the last scum.
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Post Post #2046 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:54 am

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Day 9 Vote Count 02


Sajin - 1 - manho,
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Not Voting (1): CSL

With 4 Players alive it'll take 3 votes to pound someone into the wall.
With 4 Players alive it'll take 2 votes to call for a peaceful water break.
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Post Post #2047 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:02 am

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Two days until deadline?

Extended deadline, mod?


My actions said I never protected Tajo/whomever he replaced. Maybe he's scum?

Also, I did find my N6 action. It was manho.

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Post Post #2048 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:22 pm

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tajo is not a scum with killing power, as he has a chance to hammer but didn't.
CSL is not a scum with killing power, for the same reason.
that leave Sajin as the only possible candidate to be a scum with killing power.

scum without killing power is not a threat to the town, so we can leave them alive for now, but scum with killing power need to be lynched.

so we should lynch sajin first.
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Post Post #2049 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:32 pm

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manho, I protected Sajin the past two nights, and you the night before. Tajo is scum.

I'll have to shift my vote back to Sajin for the sake of continuing this game.
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