Mafia 107 - Christmas Time Mafia (Game over)

[ready2rock]

The Voyeur is an informative role that can target a player at night and learn what was done to them that night (but not who did it).

[pman5595]

The Voyeur is an informative role that can target a player at night and learn what was done to them that night (but not who did it).

oh so like a watcher. thanks.

[Parama]

BAH
I can't seem to survive a game as town.

[CryMeARiver]

richard, when someone asked you to "claim" they are also asking you to "claim" what you did...so you have avoided the question..please CLAIM what you did last night.

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i think we have a SK/and a vig...I am pretty sure the popper is the vig. I also find it strange that neither the mafia or the Sk wanted to kills the claimed "tracker" or "joat". But with both alive, it doesnt mean much, just something I thinks to be noted.

I need to reread Nic, but mafia is loading SOOOO slow for some reason.

Just reading through latest posts, but I think what might have happened with that is that Nic protected Dizzy, Dizzy was attacked, therefore Nic died...Nic stated that he'll "do whatever it takes to protect Dizzy" or something along those lines...interesting point that no one is targeting Richard though...possible scumtell? I'm starting to believe his JoaT claim though...more to come...sorry I missed the Navy lynch...just happened so fast

[CryMeARiver]

In my mind, the slicer is a serial killer for sure...not sure why he chose Flareonage on day 1, but on day 2, he most likely targeted Dizzy as a tracker, but Dizzy was protected by bodyguard Nic, so Nic died...

Also, I'm pretty sure that the shooter is scumteam...2 town results, though not really sure why they would target Parama since he was receiving some heat by his town buddies and could have resulted in another day lynch of a townie

Number 3 is probably some sort of vigilante or a role that accidentally kills...not really enough info, but vigilante would make sense because DoS was a suspect as scum by some

[RichardGHP]

richard, when someone asked you to "claim" they are also asking you to "claim" what you did...so you have avoided the question..please CLAIM what you did last night.

Ah, I see.

In that case, I felt like I had a choice of protecting Dizzy or protecting myself, since one of us were bound to be targetted. I figured we had a doctor or bodyguard (Nicodemus) who would be on Dizzy anyways so I commuted.

[CryMeARiver]

richard, when someone asked you to "claim" they are also asking you to "claim" what you did...so you have avoided the question..please CLAIM what you did last night.

Ah, I see.

In that case, I felt like I had a choice of protecting Dizzy or protecting myself, since one of us were bound to be targetted. I figured we had a doctor or bodyguard (Nicodemus) who would be on Dizzy anyways so I commuted.

So all you have is a protect left?

[TheLonging]

beep sorasgoof

Vote: pman5595

I've been suspicious of you since near the end of day 1. Voting records, scummy play D1... I'm not too suspicious of sorasgoof (I backed off at the end of D1 when I thought he was more noob than Richard scumteam, and Richard being town makes me think soras is town).

[RichardGHP]

richard, when someone asked you to "claim" they are also asking you to "claim" what you did...so you have avoided the question..please CLAIM what you did last night.

Ah, I see.

In that case, I felt like I had a choice of protecting Dizzy or protecting myself, since one of us were bound to be targetted. I figured we had a doctor or bodyguard (Nicodemus) who would be on Dizzy anyways so I commuted.

So all you have is a protect left?

And a roleblock.

I don't agree with TL's vote of pman at first glance but I might do a PBPA of him later today to see if it's legit or a bus.

[TheLonging]

I don't know how it would be a bus, but ok.

[RichardGHP]

Had half a PBPA of pman set up and my internet went down. Meh.

From what I remember though, I don't think a vote on him is warranted. FoS maybe, not vote though from what I had quted of his.

Now, for some good ol' fashoined speculating.

With a bodyguard dead, I doubt that there are two more sane, town-aligned doctors out there so either myself or Dizzy is probably dead tonight. Or both.

[CryMeARiver]

richard, when someone asked you to "claim" they are also asking you to "claim" what you did...so you have avoided the question..please CLAIM what you did last night.

Ah, I see.

In that case, I felt like I had a choice of protecting Dizzy or protecting myself, since one of us were bound to be targetted. I figured we had a doctor or bodyguard (Nicodemus) who would be on Dizzy anyways so I commuted.

So all you have is a protect left?

And a roleblock.

I don't agree with TL's vote of pman at first glance but I might do a PBPA of him later today to see if it's legit or a bus.

I know that people are going to jump all over me for speculating about roles, but I suggest that you don't use your protect on Izzy tonight as you might think is the correct move...That might become useful later and I think it would be safe to speculate that there is a doctor or another protective role in the game that can protect Izzy...unless someone comes up obviously dirty, I would not waste a roleblock either...and please don't take this the wrong way by thinking I'm scum because I don't want you to protect Izzy...I know what I'm talking about

[CryMeARiver]

Had half a PBPA of pman set up and my internet went down. Meh.

From what I remember though, I don't think a vote on him is warranted. FoS maybe, not vote though from what I had quted of his.

Now, for some good ol' fashoined speculating.

With a bodyguard dead, I doubt that there are two more sane, town-aligned doctors out there so either myself or Dizzy is probably dead tonight. Or both.

I don't think the vote is much different from the FoS at this point...he's just establishing that he suspects pman...now if there were already a bunch of votes on him, then then the vote wouldn't be warranted for the reasons (or should I say lack of reasons) that TL posted

[curiouskarmadog]

richard, when someone asked you to "claim" they are also asking you to "claim" what you did...so you have avoided the question..please CLAIM what you did last night.

Ah, I see.

In that case, I felt like I had a choice of protecting Dizzy or protecting myself, since one of us were bound to be targetted. I figured we had a doctor or bodyguard (Nicodemus) who would be on Dizzy anyways so I commuted.

WHOA WHOA WHOA...first of all you can protect yourself?!?

second, you ASSUMED that someone would protect dizzy so you commuted?

I cant believe this...not at all.

you are asking me to swallow the fact that we have (mostly likely) two commuters plus your commute...the fact that you have a doc ability that you a.) can use on yourself and b.) that you DIDNT use to protect someone that just nailed scum?

you also want me to swallow that you have a doc ability that can be used on yourself...AND a commuting ability that is essentially the same FUCKING THING?

that seems completely insane to me.

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also I havent forgotten sora's "what about a mafia RB, before we had any knowledge of any type of RB yet" post either...

[CryMeARiver]

richard, when someone asked you to "claim" they are also asking you to "claim" what you did...so you have avoided the question..please CLAIM what you did last night.

Ah, I see.

In that case, I felt like I had a choice of protecting Dizzy or protecting myself, since one of us were bound to be targetted. I figured we had a doctor or bodyguard (Nicodemus) who would be on Dizzy anyways so I commuted.

WHOA WHOA WHOA...first of all you can protect yourself?!?

second, you ASSUMED that someone would protect dizzy so you commuted?

I cant believe this...not at all.

you are asking me to swallow the fact that we have (mostly likely) two commuters plus your commute...the fact that you have a doc ability that you a.) can use on yourself and b.) that you DIDNT use to protect someone that just nailed scum?

you also want me to swallow that you have a doc ability that can be used on yourself...AND a commuting ability that is essentially the same FUCKING THING?

that seems completely insane to me.

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also I havent forgotten sora's "what about a mafia RB, before we had any knowledge of any type of RB yet" post either...

By protecting himself, I believe he meant commuting...he isn't able to use his protect on himself I don't believe...Nic said, "I will do whatever I can to protect Dizzy", so it was safe to assume that Dizzy would be safe

[curiouskarmadog]

oh I see.....so he is saying he could protect himself (by commuting)..not by a protection (by doc)..misread that.....that is easier to swallow.

[RichardGHP]

*headdesk*

I'm sick and tired of arguing with you, ckd, so I'm not going to even bother typing up a resopnse to that.

Fuck it, I've got nothing to lose.

WHOA WHOA WHOA...first of all you can protect yourself?!?

Yes I can! It's called 'commute', have you ever heard of it? My God, technology has advanced these days. Being able to protect yourself - ESPECIALLY when you're something as insignificant as a JoaT... wow!

second, you ASSUMED that someone would protect dizzy so you commuted?

Yes. Since I was pretty much confirmed town nad I had a commute sitting there waiting to be used, I thought it was the logical choice to use since a smart doc would be on Dizzy and let me commute.

you are asking me to swallow the fact that we have (mostly likely) two commuters plus your commute...the fact that you have a doc ability that you a.) can use on yourself and b.) that you DIDNT use to protect someone that just nailed scum?

Well, that's interesting because I neglected to ask Tar if I could use the protect on myself... I doubt it though. Like I said ealier, I figured that a doc/bg would be on Dizzy so I commuted.

[curiouskarmadog]

I didnt even see that post from Nic..however, seeing that he was sliced....I dont think anyone tried to kill dizzy last night.

[CryMeARiver]

oh I see.....so he is saying he could protect himself (by commuting)..not by a protection (by doc)..misread that.....that is easier to swallow.

that's what I'd think...pretty sure that no one with a protective role is able to protect themselves

[CryMeARiver]

I didnt even see that post from Nic..however, seeing that he was sliced....I dont think anyone tried to kill dizzy last night.

It is possible because one of the things that a bodyguard might have is

Wiki says:

A role that functions like a normal Doctor, but dies if the protected player is attacked.

Someone might have attacked Dizzy, but Nic died instead because he had protected Dizzy[/u]

[curiouskarmadog]

hey Dick relax..I missed read your post...you said protect when you claimed you have a one shot protect..I thought you meant through the doc..which was/is hard to believe. that was my problem.

[CryMeARiver]

hey Dick relax..I missed read your post...you said protect when you claimed you have a one shot protect..I thought you meant through the doc..which was/is hard to believe. that was my problem.

lol at the capital D in dick...Richard = Dick...nice pun

[curiouskarmadog]

@at cry...maybe..

ok..I am putting this out there because I think it is...well, i dont want to say important..but it is more information....

I am a neighbor.....there is a 4th neighbor too....now, there are two neighbors down and both flipped town, thoughts? Could there be 4 neighbors that are all town or do you think that there might be scum in that mix? Not sure exactly the purpose of a neighbor in this game...they are not masons so, meh.

the only thing I can think of is a way to bread crumb the moves without putting it in the main thread...at any rate, I dont see where nic did that last night during conversation.

my question, do you deem it important information to find out who the 4th neighbor is..why or why not?

[curiouskarmadog]

also, I hate proofread...missed read obviously is misread....

[TheLonging]

So you guys don't know who the other neighbors are? Maybe it would help, I don't know much about the role itself though.