Mafia 103 - Ktown Mafia (Game Over)

[Furry]

Glad to see everyone was so glad to kill a townie when I was doing school work ~

Speaking of townie, I am one of those too.

This is a VT claim right? Meaning you never had an action last night?

Depending on the answer to this, we might want to no lynch then finish the massclaim tomorrow. People please trust me that I know what im doing here. Apparently we have 3 scum (since we arent all dead with 8 alive), so NL is an option.

Lets not vote to lynch yet though

[Kirbyoshi]

Vote: don_johnson

We had all agreed that we were to wait until deadline to see if Heilo showed up. Why did you hammer?

[Sir Chris]

Glad to see everyone was so glad to kill a townie when I was doing school work ~

Speaking of townie, I am one of those too.

This is a VT claim right? Meaning you never had an action last night?

Depending on the answer to this, we might want to no lynch then finish the massclaim tomorrow. People please trust me that I know what im doing here. Apparently we have 3 scum (since we arent all dead with 8 alive), so NL is an option.

Lets not vote to lynch yet though

I have had no action at any point of this game, correct.

[Furry]

Vote No Lynch

I am very sure kirby and SC are telling the truth about lack of actions, my other target isnt alive. I have role based information to support this. I would like one more shot at getting info. If I get killed, you can take what is revealed from my flip and use it. If I dont, there should be some good stuff to work with tomorrow.

I am not quite ready to auto-lynch DJ for the hammer since the lynch looked inveitable, but if we are going to lynch today I prefer it at first glance.

[Sir Chris]

who is your other target?

[Furry]

N1 - Wicked
N2 - kirby
N3 - SC

[Sir Chris]

why did you jump on wicked and kirby's lynch even though you scanned them going nowhere. In this game I figured a long time ago it was more or less all townies for town, and thus odds alone dictate more townies will go nowhere than scum (although a bit flawed admittedly)

let's just all claim and get it out of the way.

[Furry]

why did you jump on wicked and kirby's lynch even though you scanned them going nowhere. In this game I figured a long time ago it was more or less all townies for town, and thus odds alone dictate more townies will go nowhere than scum (although a bit flawed admittedly)

let's just all claim and get it out of the way.

If we are no lynching we are not massclaiming. That is what we need to decide on first.

I am not a cop. I am a role that will be useful if I hit scum submitting a kill, I will be noticeable if I hit town PR as well. Just because they did not submit the kill doesnt mean that they arent scum though. Assuming three scum, I need to hit scum and then hit 1/3 odds after that. If I have a scum read (like kirby) im going to vote them. I wasnt as keen on the wicked lynch because he wasnt a super strong read and I knew he went nowhere N1, but targeting someone doesnt completely clear them. It just catches them if they are fakeclaiming.

But I am willing to gamble that a protective role exists, and sending the game to night is better then having a lynch then requiring a protection/blocking role to be successful.

[Sir Chris]

what is your role name.

Also we are mass claiming and then lynching someone. "I am willing to gamble a protective role exists" is not a gamble I am willing to take, and I don't even believe you fully atm.

[Furry]

what is your role name.

Also we are mass claiming and then lynching someone. "I am willing to gamble a protective role exists" is not a gamble I am willing to take, and I don't even believe you fully atm.

If we are massclaiming I will be apart of the massclaim. I dont think that we should be doing that today since there is a chance, even if there is no protective role, that we will have the equivilant of a guilty tomorrow. If we mislynch, we will be a spot where one of, at most, two roles will have to make the correct move at night. If we decide we are lynching, then yes, I will claim. Untill then, no.

To be perfectly frank, my role is a part of why I am willing to risk getting NKed to avoid the ensuing paranoia that will come from me claiming.

[Sir Chris]

uhh, your role is obvious, I just want to know if you will slip up as scum tbh.

[Furry]

uhh, your role is obvious, I just want to know if you will slip up as scum tbh.

Yeah it should be figureoutable... so ideal for me.

*glee*

Anyways, if you think you know what my role is (and have it right) then you should see why I want to go to night. It can only get us more information, even if I decide to double back and re-target people. If I get killed, my results are out there, if not, well its more WIFOM, but either another partially cleared or caught shows.

[Sir Chris]

my paranoia is scum could have an extra kill and it'd be game over.

[Furry]

my paranoia is scum could have an extra kill and it'd be game over.

My biggest paranoia has been two scum groups...

I think both of those are unfounded. I dont even know what type of a role you are describing here.

[cruelty]

So are we massclaiming or what?

I've never been in a game where the possibility of doing so has been seriously brought up so I'm not really sure of what's going on/the logic behind it.

[Sir Chris]

Mafia Assassin - independent kill that is not the same as the main mafia kill.

logic behind mass claiming - everyone gets to know everything, can maybe find something in roles that leads to scum.

[Furry]

Yeah im still going to say there is no role that gives scum two kills (if there was I also think it would be used early as a safety precaution).

So are we massclaiming or what?

I've never been in a game where the possibility of doing so has been seriously brought up so I'm not really sure of what's going on/the logic behind it.

Simple(ish) explaination

A massclaim occurs primarily in a lylo situation. Town is on the verge of losing, so is going to extract all the information possible. With all the roles and actions out in the open, it allows for more possibilities to pick up a discrepancy of a fakeclaim, or even the chances of multiple roles showing someone as guilty.

The reason im saying massclaim OR no lynch is that if we arent lynching, keeping as many roles as possible hidden from scum is the right move. I already softclaimed (well closer to full but alas) so will likely be drawing a kill (hint hint any doctor in the house), but I may not be the optimal kill, which is why we dont massclaim first.

[Kdub]

Vote Count

CrueKnight (0)

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Furry (0)

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cruelty (0)

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Sir Chris (1)

- don_johnson

kunkstar7 (0)

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don_johnson (1)

- Kirbyoshi

Kirbyoshi (0)

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mikeburnfire (0)

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No Lynch (1)

- Furry

Not Voting (5)

- CrueKnight, cruelty, Sir Chris, kunkstar7, mikeburnfire

8 players alive, 5 votes needed to lynch.

Deadline is February 20, ~11 pm MST

[cruelty]

Right. Can we get a consensus then?


What do people think?

[Furry]

Well people know how I think. What about you?

[cruelty]

I am happy enough either way. I've been completely wrong with all my reads so far this game so I'm not entirely confident in my ability to pull a rabbit out of a hat at this point.

That said, we have a bunch of people who need to talk more. Specifically, kirby, mike, kunk, CK.

[Furry]

I am happy enough either way. I've been completely wrong with all my reads so far this game so I'm not entirely confident in my ability to pull a rabbit out of a hat at this point.

So neutral leaning NL?

That said, we have a bunch of people who need to talk more. Specifically, kirby, mike, kunk, CK.

The middle two at least, ive been happy enough with the others

[don_johnson]

unvote

i think i get what you are saying. i have been having trouble accessing the site, but i think no lynch may be worth exploring as this is the type of situation where it can be beneficial. three player scum team makes this a mislynch and lose day, right?

kirb: heilo wasn't coming back. read to me as dissaffected vanilla or caught scum. there was no indication of a replacement or extension. the lynch was inevitable. i wanted sc. others wanted you. neither of those wagons were happening and a late power role claim would have had to have uber helpful results to save heilo. i didn't see it happening.

[Kirbyoshi]

Actually...

unvote, Vote: No Lynch

Looks to me like a textbook NL situation. Plus, dj IS making sense...

[cruelty]

vote: no lynch