SWN II: The Curse of the Nekomata (Game over!)

[Kairyuu]

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vote: sykedoc

Fearmongering. You're essentially pushing the deadline lynch of a claimed cop, when your main defense of yourself is "if you lynch me you'll hit a power role and then you'll be sorry." Tell me then, how does that apply to you, but not to Parama?

@all: parama is either telling the truth, or is Greek Mafia himself, and therefore would know that they won't kill him. Nothing else makes logical sense. I'm inclined to believe him for the moment.

[sykedoc]

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vote: sykedoc

Fearmongering.

You're essentially pushing the deadline lynch of a claimed cop,

when your main defense of yourself is "if you lynch me you'll hit a power role and then you'll be sorry." Tell me then, how does that apply to you, but not to Parama?

I'm not saying we have to do THIS very lynch, but we're in a state where much of being counterproductive before this day ends.

[DocPotter]

Why are you so concerned with deadline? We have time.

That was my immediate thought too.

That's the what, second time you've mentioned the deadline in relation to the Parama wagon.

Unvote Parama

You sound worried by something Syke.

[Kairyuu]

@syke: If you're going to push the idea of a different lynch while not committing to it yourself (note that your vote is still on Parama as of this typing) you are being hypocritical, and cannot legitimately say that you support anything but a Parama lynch.

[sykedoc]

Unvote

Vote DocPotter

I need to explain this vote:

I had my giant HoS earlier on him.
His pattern keeps reading like this...

Many people are saying things about me, but its DP who seems to be riding everyone else's accusations. He takes small things that have been brought up by other people and uses them to try and turn attention away from him.

You pressed me on that detail on a defense of Llama earlier and dropped it after I explained it for the 3rd or 4th time. You were riding directly off DN's smaller point.

This time, I see you using Starbuck's point.
I can't help but feel like you're just trying to follow the tide.

[sykedoc]

@syke: If you're going to push the idea of a different lynch while not committing to it yourself (note that your vote is still on Parama as of this typing) you are being hypocritical, and cannot legitimately say that you support anything but a Parama lynch.

Ex-Post Facto.
This seemed to have been posted as I was making my post.

[Starbuck]

@syke: If you're going to push the idea of a different lynch while not committing to it yourself (note that your vote is still on Parama as of this typing) you are being hypocritical, and cannot legitimately say that you support anything but a Parama lynch.

This isn't the first time he's done this.

He was pushing for DocPotter earlier today while voting for someone else. He didn't vote DP until pressured.

[sykedoc]

@syke: If you're going to push the idea of a different lynch while not committing to it yourself (note that your vote is still on Parama as of this typing) you are being hypocritical, and cannot legitimately say that you support anything but a Parama lynch.

This isn't the first time he's done this.

He was pushing for DocPotter earlier today while voting for someone else. He didn't vote DP until pressured.

I wouldn't call this pressure unless whoever unvotes now you qualify under the same standards. In that case you may have up to 8 other people to talk to. He had a cop claim, and I was given a valid reason to unvote. The DP vote earlier and this vote now are not the same vote.

[sykedoc]

EBWOP: I also didn't push the idea of any lynch in particular including a no lynch at the time my initial posting in response to Starbuck. I was just informing that there would be a deadline approaching and we needed to figure out something.

[Amished]

This is a bastard mod game; I would not be surprised if there isn't even a Greek Mafia in the game.

[sykedoc]

This is a bastard mod game; I would not be surprised if there isn't even a Greek Mafia in the game.

But isnt that a bit too WIFOMy for a vote?

[RichardGHP]

Well. I honeshtly don't know what to shink at thish point. Inactive game ish inactive.

[DocPotter]

lol.. I dropped the Llama question because you weren't answering it and I figgured it could wait for day 2.

But just for kicks, why don't you actually answer it instead of dodging it or throwing accusations at me.

Also, if you can't tell, my post was written after the Starbuck post I quoted, so I wasn't following other people. Just her. The whole "Second time you've mentioned the deadline" would kind of give that away, since you've mentioned it a few more times than that now. For reference the first time was somewhere after 3am local for me. It's now 10:00, and I'm still reading the overnights from the games I am in.

You did, in my opinion, push for the Parama lynch, and your voting the next biggest wagon when people started unvoting just proves that you are wagon hopping.

You seem to be excessively paranoid about being lynched. Pushing wagons other than yours, denying that the wagon on you was actually a wagon, scare tactics about the deadline, claim threats. The early sofy claim PR.


So for reference again, if the wagon on myself and Parama were actually wagons started by LLama (Despite Llama not being the first vote on Parama), why was the one he started on you not a wagon? I'll give you another hint, when he placed his vote on me, was it a wagon then? Perhaps you define what you think a wagon is?

Vote sykedoc

[sykedoc]

I'm done with your question because I've answered it over 3 times. My statement had zero to do with what you're asking and I have no reason to justify something to you that I've explained numerous times. Keep rolling in that OMGUS.

[sykedoc]

From the MafiaScum Wiki:

Bandwagon:
"Several Votes on the same player to try to Lynch them or force them to roleclaim; "

Now, would you kindly point out to me where Llama was trying to lynch me or force me to roleclaim during this vote.

I can show you where he was trying to lynch or force you to claim, and you can clearly see where that occurred with Parama.

Check.

[sykedoc]

EBWOP: during his vote

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

DocPotter (6): Nul, CSL, Parama, Bogre, tubby216, sykedoc
Parama (7): Riceballtail, Fishythefish, FeFiFoFum, RichardGHP, Amished, dramonic, Pomegranate
Riceballtail (1): RayFrost
RichardGHP (2): wolframnhart, animorpherv1
sykedoc (6): Anon, DeathNote, Starbuck, Rifka Viveka, Kairyuu, DocPotter
Not voting (3): My Milked Eek, PoisonIvy, LlamaFluff

With

25

players alive, it takes

13

votes to lynch.

PoisonIvy and wolframnhart are prodded, and I'm again looking for a replacement for Nul (and again allowing any replacement to extend the deadline on request).

Tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock...

[StrangerCoug]

wolframnhart is V/LA from March 1 until at least March 4—he may not return from it until as late as the 7th.

[LlamaFluff]

I would actually like a Anon quicklynch is we can get one. Sadly im not too sure we can have one happen, be sure to look into one tomorrow though. The reasoning is clear if you read him.

Vote Anon

I will move my vote to DP to stop a sykedoc lynch if necessary. I also will be able to make at least one post before deadline so no worries.

[Fishythefish]

Bleh. Looks like Parama lynch isn't happening. Shame, seeing as Parama is scum.

I mean, really. Think about it. How many scum would you guess are in this game? About 6? How many cops? 2 seems lots. How many of those scum would claim cop? I'd say at least 2. So, if we wagon a random player, and they claim cop, what chance they are scum? At least 50% - and I've been generous to the scum in my numbers. 50%!!!! That's a

huge

improvement over randomness. And if we lynch a cop, then so what? It's a bastard game, he was probably a pretty useless cop anyway. Cop claims make very, very good lynches.

That's enough ranting. Parama is an awesome lynch here.

As for other lynches, if we can't lynch the OBVIOUS SCUM I would take a DP lynch over an SD lynch over a NL. I haven't read anon, but if Llama's magical powers get a wagon going I will.

This isn't my last post before deadline.

[LlamaFluff]

If he claimed just cop I would of lynched him. Greek Cop sounds real to me, if later only one faction is revealed we lynch him then.

Getting slap-dash case on anon up now

[Fishythefish]

If he claimed just cop I would of lynched him. Greek Cop sounds real to me, if later only one faction is revealed we lynch him then.

Seriously? In a bastard game? If he really is a Greek Cop, three very real possibilities:
1. No Greek Mafia
2. Only Greek Mafia
3. Multiple mafiates, including Greek
Assuming that a real Greek Cop implies the third option is very wrong.

If he's mafia, he's probably Greek Mafia. I don't think that added flavour does anything to improve his claim.

[FeFiFoFum]

v/la till monday

[StrangerCoug]

v/la till monday

Got it.

[LlamaFluff]

Anon has been the biggest proponent of the SD-meta case. At times he starts expanding the case out, but it makes circles back to "It matches his SK meta". Making a case primarily on meta is bad, but making it on SK meta (which is neither town or scum, very very different) is very wrong. Ive never played as SK, but have played as scum replacing in D4 when all my partners were dead with about 12 alive. It was not the same as playing standard scum, likely closer to playing as SK.

Now, he really hasnt done ANYTHING this game expect say we should lynch SD. He went away for a bit, lurked, and now we are at this stage of the game where he has given no opinions on most things (charter-scum alt?) and still just have him repeting that we should lynch SD