Open 201 - Fire & Ice Mafia ~Over~

[TheLonging]

Votecount 2.3

kmd4390 -3- TheLonging, Gayle, Pomegranate

TheLonging -1- kmd4390
Pomegranate -1- Gheb

Not voting: JacobSavage, Xofelf, DTMaster

With 8 alive, 5 will freeze the victim. Currently, kmd4390 will be lynched at the deadline mentioned below.

Deadline is Sunday, February 21st, 2010, at 8:00pm EST.

(You have 4.5 days left)

DTMaster has less than a day left to respond to his prod

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Hmm. TheLonging was on the Mavs wagon as well as my own, but not Animorph's. Interesting.

Uh I voted Animorph. Fail?

[TheLonging]

Oh shit, I'm wrong. There's a lazy vote on Animorph there, but that's the only mention of Animorph in his entire post history. (Until after the lynch)

I also mentioned why I thought Animorph was scummy in that vote. Yes I lurked D1 but most of it was Gayle vs. Farside, which I really didn't have much to do with + I wasn't online a lot

[Kmd4390]

Yeah, my bad. I corrected myself as soon as I found it.

My point is that up until that vote, you never once mentioned Animorph.

Also, what happened to this:

my 2nd choice for suspicious people are dtm for bandwagoning so much throughout the day

First, you call DT town, then you post this, and now I can't find any recent mention of DT. What are your thoughts on him and why? What made you consider him scummy after you had called him town, and why haven't you pushed that since?

[TheLonging]

Because I found animorph more suspicious, because even though DTM bandwagoned, he at least posted good reasons, while ani really didn't.

[Kmd4390]

What is your opinion of him now? It sounds like you are saying he looked town at that time, but your post specifically called him your second suspect.

[TheLonging]

I didn't have a lot of suspects, my only other suspect was someone I thought was more town than scum, but suspected because of bandwagoning (which isn't necessarily a scumtell at all)

[TheLonging]

My opinion of him now is that he needs to post on this day

[Kmd4390]

So the only real suspects you have had have been players who have been widely suspected by others? And your point against DT was...?

[TheLonging]

My point against DTM was that he bandwagoned on a lot of people but at least he gave reasons for voting. from what I remember ani didn't or gave weak reasons.

[Kmd4390]

So is DT's bandwagoning scummy or not? What about your own?

[TheLonging]

I didn't say he was completely scummy, I said he was a suspect, not scum. I don't think I bandwagoned but if you guys say I did, ok then. Like I say, bandwagoning isn't a scumtell, more like a nulltell. Ani was more suspicious/scummy to me because he bandwagoned with weak reasons and contradicted himself.

[Kmd4390]

If not a suspect for scum, then a suspect for what?

If bandwagoning is a null tell, why was it a reason to suspect DT?

[DTMaster]

Sorry, forgot that this game started! D:"

K, my comments.

@Xofelf

does anyone find it at all suspicious that Gayle and farside were having comments back and forth and now farside is dead? or is that just me?

and why would you say i'm fire scum, kmd? what basis do you have for that, if i may ask.

Best saved for personal notes. The alternative explanation is Gayle was set up.

i never said that made Gayle suspicious. more of i was thinking that whoever did it WANTED to make her look so. i guess i should have said odd. i wasn't saying she did anything. just intrigued by the fact that she was defending ani and he flipped scum, and then farside dies during the night. i'm thinking somebody wants to make her look scummy. Cuz all i get from her are town vibes.
it was more something to think about than anything else.

There is a sense of self admission here? Hmm?

@Longing
Um do you realize that I've been tunnel heavy on the Mavs/Gayle issue. Like when did I go about and wagon on other people (aside from Ani). I was quite clear on my specific targets. You are bending backwards in your explanation.

Also I'm sure Ani didn't have a strong voting history. I'm going to do a quick iso read.


@Town
Hold on. Do people realize that KMD wagon-ed onto fire scum? Unless this is some serious busing, you should be arguing the ice-scum argument right now based on our current flips.

[DTMaster]

OK I did a post search and the only vote that Ani did was on Farside. When did Ani bandwagon again?

[DTMaster]

If it helps. Ani is very pro Slaxx and pro Gayle

[CSL]

Yay, I don't have anyone to replace!

[Gheb]

Unvote Vote Pomegranate

Helf pressure vote but also having a bad feeling about her. Will elaborate later.

[CSL]

Well, it appears I goofed up. Sanhora was meant to be replaced, not modkilled. Therefore, if the town wins, Sanhora wins as well. That's the best I can do without destroying the integrity of the game. Sorry for the inconvenience!

[Gheb]

Slaxx is counted as "not voting" even though he's already dead.

[CSL]

Ok. Editing is now bad again. Going to post votecounts from here on.

So, stand by for a votecount.

[CSL]

The "Editing is Broken" votecount

kmd4390 (L-2) TheLonging, Gayle, Pomegranate

TheLonging (L-4) kmd4390
Pomegranate (L-4) Gheb

Not voting (3) JacobSavage, Xofelf, DTMaster

With

8

alive,

5

will snap someone's neck. Currently,

kmd4390

would be lynched at the deadline below

Deadline is Sunday, February 21st, 2010, at 8:00pm EST.

(You have a little over 4 days left)

[DTMaster]

@Gheb
Waiting. This isn't a time to beat around the bush right now.

[Gayle]

I don't have the time or presence of mind to review this game right now, so I will

Unvote

until I return sometime tomorrow evening.

[JacobSavage]

One has to remember that there is two Mafia's, and that the WIFOM gets even more confusing.

However I am just going to go with my gut feeling

Vote: Gayle

[Kmd4390]

One has to remember that there is two Mafia's, and that the WIFOM gets even more confusing.

However I am just going to go with my gut feeling

Vote: Gayle

Wait, what? No, really, what are you trying to say here?

Two scum teams. Yes, we know this.

WIFOM referring to what, specifically?

And the "gut" vote is fine, but what do you think about CSL's post that virtually cleared Farside and Gayle?