Mafia 109 - A Glitch in time - Game Over!

[Kmd4390]

Anon, same reasons I've said all game. Except Nacho. Nacho is a lurker and needs to die.

Spy, I have a town read on, but I always do.

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Mae anything specific you want me to see?

[Ythan]

Dramonic lynch is pretty non optymal even if he is scum

Meaning?

My advice to you would be to iso people, and just ignore Ythan. He's posted between 1/3 and 1/4 of all the posts in this game. Most of them are one liners with no content.

It made sense when Anon said it but parroting it to discredit someone who wants you lynch is just stupid. You're not stupid right?

[camn]

<snip> parroting it to discredit someone who wants you lynch is just stupid. You're not stupid right?

Is calling someone stupid who wants YOU lynched any better?

Seriously, dude. Your posts are getting absurd.
You should come up with a better argument than "YUR DUM."

[Ythan]

Ignoring all but the part you want to respond to is absurd. Calling someone's actions stupid is a much better argument than whatever you're doing.

[Pulindar]

First off, I would like to say thank you to Camn for reminding me I meant to

Vote Ythan

Now that that's done.

Ignoring all but the part you want to respond to is absurd. Calling someone's actions stupid is a much better argument than whatever you're doing.

You had nine, I repeat 9, other words in your post. She just didn't feel that including that you said it was ok when Anon said it was meaningful. I don't see why she cut them out, but still 9 words isn't that much, and none of your post was addressed to her.

My case against Ythan includes nothing about him being scum. Honestly I'm to the point that I don't care whether he's scum or not. With how he's buddying up to our town guy drip I believe it's a real possibility, but I'm not going to go there.

He's a determent to town. Camn, you were talking about lynching Nacho for the same reason? I say Ythan is the better option. Nacho hasn't been contributing, he hasn't made much of a case etc etc. He's a genuine lurker, just like McZombie was. Well, he's a bit more active, but still. at least his posts don't distract from the actual cases.

Ythan's posting has been a detriment to town since the beginning. He has distracted from the real cases purely by talking over them. He has made it difficult to find the content worthy posts. He has tied up the time, energy, and space that other people in the game have contributed with his own posts. basically he's been a real distraction. over a full quarter of the posts have been by him. In a 17 person game that should not be the case. about another quarter of the posts have been small ones answering his. or telling him to stop being such a distraction. If Ythan weren't here we'd have about 20 less pages, which would make it much easier for people like who don't have the time to read 40 pages of white noise to come in here and make real arguments. we'd have more real contribution from the people responding to Ythan, and more contribution in general from the people who don't want to deal with him.

My vote goes on Ythan, and you guys can lynch me for it, but unless the white noise is removed I don't think town really stands a chance.

[Haylen]

The I hope you made VRK feel loved >=( Vote Count

Dramonic: Drippereth, Ythan
Nachomamma8: camn, SpyreX, Kmd ~
SpyreX: Anon
Ythan: Pulindar

Not Voting: Parama, Nachomamma8, Starbuck, Maemuki,Yosarian2, Weaboo


Lots of Love,
Hayl xxx

[Pulindar]

Oh, and I forgot to mention this. I did not realize that Anon had posted the same thing above me. My feelings on your contributions Ythan have been well known for a while now I think.

Haylen, I hope you're feeling better soon. I'm having a bad day as well, so at least misery loves company right

[Ythan]

Why did I expect more from Pulindar?

Oh well, sitting on this dramonic vote for the time being.

[Yosarian2]

I'd still like to see Dramonic respond to this.

Remember that I had claimed "NOT VIG" so if Dramonic were scum, he knew he wouldn't be making a mistake if he said I don't have a gun.

That's pretty damning I think.

I really am interested in hearing what you were thinking with your choice, dramonic.

[dramonic]

I'd still like to see Dramonic respond to this.

Remember that I had claimed "NOT VIG" so if Dramonic were scum, he knew he wouldn't be making a mistake if he said I don't have a gun.

That's pretty damning I think.

I really am interested in hearing what you were thinking with your choice, dramonic.

She didn't claim "not scum"

Also, this is a very good point against the people saying I'm vig hunting.

[Nachomamma8]

Okay. I'm fine with camn voting me dead, but KMD and SpyreX?

KMD is lurking on point with me, and Spyrex isn't much better. I think that it's a really good idea to note that KMD is protesting the dramonic lynch, and he's also has a town read on someone who isn't really posting a whole lot of content.

I'm confused as to where KMD's scum read on Anon is coming from. The things about Anon he's been "saying all game" are some scummy stuff he's done on page 1. As for Anon himself, I've seen a lot of protown posts from him (SEE: ISO 15), and, as I look over Spyrex a little closer, I definitely agree with the scum read.

Camn's talk of Dramonic's vig-hunting is weird to me. The possibility of a scum gunsmith is pretty small, IMO, and if he was vig hunting, I'd think that he'd simply claim vig and get it over with. The chance of him dying without the scumteam learning anything at all would be extremely small...

Drippereth is town.

I'm still annoyed at KMD's blatant hypocrisy... And I really hate how he doesn't describe any of his reads; Anon and Mae seem like random names pulled out of a hat.

Mae is town. She's careful about the day ending too early... her read on Pulindar is wrong, though.

Parama's been looking more and more town lately. At first, I just thought he was scum buddying Drip, but he's learned how to think on his own. Needs to explain his dramonic case better, though.

Pulindar's town. I've already explained this, though.

Spyrex is not as scummy as KMD, but he's still pretty scummy.

Starbuck/McZombie = Null. I didn't know McZombie was ever in this game...

Weaboo is... town? Maybe? I don't know, he need to post more.

Not sure about Yosarian2 lately. But he's town for right now because he definitely hasn't done anything to make me think differently.

Ythan is Ythan. He posts so much I really don't have a read on him... I don't find myself agreeing with him a whole lot, and I hated his attacks on Pulindar, so probably cum.

[Nachomamma8]

...that last word should read "scum". I missed the preview button >.>

[Drippereth]

Unvote, Vote Nacho

[Parama]

Lol?
I don't get the Nacho wagon. ISO time?

[Nachomamma8]

Nah, Elli-gut. He'll explain in due time.

[Drippereth]

Post 1135 is a whole lot of lazy scum slop that can be summarized thusly:

"Ooopsy - I'm not lurking! See? Look! A POST! Is it long enough? No? How about now? Is it long enough? No? More? I'm running out of things to stretch out off the top of my head!"

[camn]

<snip> IMO, and if he was vig hunting, I'd think that he'd simply claim vig and get it over with. The chance of him dying without the scumteam learning anything at all would be extremely small...<snip>.

No, he would just get vigged.
Whereas claiming a protective role would avoid the noose, give him town points for claiming 'gun' and bussing a buddy later, AND draw doc protection.
Hell, maybe he isn't an investigator AT ALL. Maybe he is plain scum.
If he is scum and targeted CSL, then gambling on ALL the townies being gun-free is pretty easy money. It is such an awesome fakeclaim.. . I think I'll use it if I ever get a chance.
But I do think he is an investigator, and is betting on there only being ONE in the game.
(PS.. I thought about

The only problem is last night.
If he drew protection.. why no kill?

Unless of course we have no doc.. and instead have a RB, who blocked a kill. Or a NK-immune somewhere in the mix.

Anyway, theory-wise it isn't weird, it's awesome... but I agree it is a non-optymal lynch TODAY.

Whereas NACHO is a fine lynch.
Set the precedent for the others.
Maybe scare up some activity from the under-actives.
Maybe even hit scum.

[Drippereth]

Nah, Elli-gut. He'll explain in due time.

You knew that was me how?
And remember what happened last time, when you had such a nonchalant attitude?

[camn]

Also, this is a very good point against the people saying I'm vig hunting.

And no.. it is a GREAT argument that if you ARE scum, you are not an investigator.. and your fakeclaim is ENTIRELY fake.. not just kind of fake

I do agree that it doesn't really count against you though.

[dramonic]

I'm saying the people saying I'm vig hunting should explain to me why I'd investigate someone who yelled not vig at the top of its lungs.

[Drippereth]

Maybe you thought I was double-stuff WIFOM'ing a claim-non-claim.

[Nachomamma8]

I'm running out of things to stretch out off the top of my head!

Or more like "I was going to give a read on everyone, but I'm starting to get lazy!"

No, he would just get vigged.

Good point >.>

If he is scum and targeted CSL, then gambling on ALL the townies being gun-free is pretty easy money.

I disagree. I think that if there was a vig the first person they would target would most definitely be CSL unless they were sure about someone else being scum. So, leaving CSL alive overnight would make way more sense; if CSL survived the night, he definitely could assume all the townies were gun-free.

Anyway, theory-wise it isn't weird, it's awesome...

But doesn't it sound too ridiculously nefarious and complicated to you?

You knew that was me how?

Nacho-gut.

And remember what happened last time, when you had such a nonchalant attitude?

Mhm. There are two important differences for this one, though. 1) I'm town this time. 2) You aren't a vig, according to Dramonic.

[camn]

Anyway, theory-wise it isn't weird, it's awesome...

But doesn't it sound too ridiculously nefarious and complicated to you?

There is no upper limit to that particular variable in my world.

But I agree that Dram is probably a scum-investigator, and not a plain scumbag. He figured Drip was WIFOMing him, so he went for her.

HOWEVER, I don't like how this discussion is going back to lynching Dram, and away from lynching NACHO.

Your laziness is why you must die. Defending yourself by claiming "lazy" only makes me want you more dead.

[Parama]

Going to be V/LA until Friday

As such I need to be placing my vote soon.

[Yosarian2]

Maybe you thought I was double-stuff WIFOM'ing a claim-non-claim.

If so, then claiming gunsmith with a "no gun" result for you would be the dumbest thing ever. Either you'd counterclaim and he'd be proven 100% wrong (since he just said you were innocent), or else you'd just shoot him.

Honestly, if I was a gunsmith, I'd probably be more likely to investigate someone who claimed "not vig". Less chance of a false positive. That being said, it's also obv a good move if he's lying scum.

Eh, I'm willing to wait and see what happens. We'll have more information to better assess the claim later.