SWN II: The Curse of the Nekomata (Game over!)

[LlamaFluff]

Why hasnt Pom been shot yet?

[sykedoc]

^Did I miss why you thought this? My internet has been screwy.

[LlamaFluff]

Going back and chronicaling Poms suspicions, its interesting to see what comes up. A lot of the suspicions are confusing to me.

Starts with a SD wagon that mostly hinges on what others have said and 'overdefensiveness' which people using is one of my big irks. This suspicion drifts off later to eventually be replaced by a Nul vote for (as far as I can tell) wagoning DP. Next LoS though she puts out has DP as the second most likely scum.

Soon enough the vote is back on SD, despite SD not being on the most recent three person LoS. Nul, DP and RGHP are no longer mentioned. Parama becomes a popular subject soon, and becomes FoS worthy. So far Pom has expressed quite a bit of support for every popular wagon, and most semi-popular ones. This includes the ensuing RBT wagon, but interestingly enough, not the CSL one.

Vote Pom

A look at voting history here should be enough to make this lynch a priority to FFFF

[DocPotter]

"Defenestrated - Anon "

Defenestrated is being thrown out of a window, but anyway.

Bah, I was looking forward to playing in a game with Zor.

[Jahudo]

Pom-uh-granite needsh a replashment to claim before we'sh schootsh her.
But I fink itsh a good placesh to find schkumm.

I want to get a good explanation out of him first.

There's nothing to explain
I behaved one way in one particular game. What do you need an explanation for?

Aaahh... I'm convinced enough for now. Unvote.

Exschample of her wanting to vhote but not inveshtigate, or preshure. Maybee opportunischtic.

Then psyche's outta her schkumm picks by post 401.

With the last page, and the response to my post about him, definitelyVote: Sykedoc.

But than he's back in it with raisins pre-phost 401. Looksh contradictery for shake of pushing wagon on ebb n' flow of moe-men-tome.

[zoraster]

"Defenestrated - Anon "

Defenestrated is being thrown out of a window, but anyway.

Bah, I was looking forward to playing in a game with Zor.

If my games from January are anything to base it off of, you're not exactly missing out.

Again though, what do we hope to gain from a Pom LYNCH? why isn't shooting the girl better? A lynch on an inactive person who's asked to be replaced doesn't get us much in the way of future analysis.

[Jahudo]

Hai soaraster!!!!
Animorf loshes his powher if he targhets vanillha's or phost restrictionshs. Otterwise he can khill unlimithid times.

[UncertainKitten]

...

Does this mean UK is a jester now FFS?

And unless someone takes credit for those kills (which I'm not saying is going to happen) I HAVE to assume ani is legit and we're looking at 3 anti town factions. Or something.

Ffffff

Yes. MME is a fucking retard.

I am now going to push my own lynch.

Vote UncertainKitten

Can we just kill me now and get this over with?

I'm going to go ahead and say the intelligent shot so far would be UK for obvious reason. Also why do you want to shoot me?

Can we just lynch me? You know, I mean, this role sucks, and everyone knows what it is. Can we at least just let me win before I'm killed?

Shoot Pom, shoot someone else, I really don't care. Just

lynch

me. I at least TRIED to help out town, which is more than MME ever did.

I fucking hate you SC.

[SpyreX]

Gosh make ONE mistake and everyone gets all crazy pants.

You know the chances of you getting lynched are absolutely 0 UK. Shot maybe later, lynched, no.

Yea, shooting Pom is fine.

[Amished]

Haha, that's awesome. UK is now known third party, she has no reason to help us. Why would we want to keep her around? I vote for shooting UK ASAP. Perhaps in the same post as Pom, I really don't care.

[RayFrost]

Let's keep UK around.

UK, how about a deal?

You help us scumhunt, and we lynch you at some point in the game where we estimate it is a day before lylo. (or there's only one kill per night and we have narrowed the suspects down, etc)

This way, we get your scumhunting skillz, and you get yourself lynched.

Either that or you can just be killed.

Your choice.

[SpyreX]

I'll roll this way:

UK, we hit two more scum we can lynch you.

You're not getting lynched before then, though.

You're also most definitely not getting shot (I find it "interesting" who's pushed for that).

[Maemuki]

Hmmmm

I'd like Mae to weigh in because a naive-single group cop really makes the brain itch but.

Oh oi. O que queres que eu diga?

[Starbuck]

So why was it said that the hammer and L-1 or hammer and first vote would die?

[dramonic]

it's a fakeclaim to avoid his lynch obviously.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Pomegranate (2): LlamaFluff, SpyreX
UncertainKitten (1): UncertainKitten
Not voting (12): Amished, animorpherv1, dramonic, Jahudo, Maemuki, PoisonIvy, Pomegranate, RayFrost, Rifka Viveka, Starbuck, sykedoc, zoraster

With

15

players alive, it takes

8

votes to lynch.

[dramonic]

@Mod: Unless there's a special mechanic at hand, with 15 alive majority is 8.

[PoisonIvy]

Mae. I think SpyreX is looking for an opinion, which he's entitled to do. But first and foremost i think restating your millership would help.

DocPot is dead so my investigation was wrong there considering i investigated you and got innocent (WRONG) and i investigated DocPot and got innocent. (RIGHT).

I fear that while im the naive cop, DN would have inherited sane or insane cop abilites after my death but while recieving my innocents results which would be very very bad.

Lynching UK is bad. I like SpyreX/Frost's deal. Third non killing party is more or less a good thing to have to keeps the numbers up for as long as possible. But im wholly behind eventually lynching UK provided we hit some scum with her help.

Vote Pom

i already stated my reasoning why yesterday i believe. Llama's wrote more than enough reasons. Way more substantial evidence than I. Why is this stalling?

[UncertainKitten]

I'll roll this way:

UK, we hit two more scum we can lynch you.

You're not getting lynched before then, though.

You're also most definitely not getting shot (I find it "interesting" who's pushed for that).

Fine.

I'm still not reading all 70 pages. I'll start from D2 whenever I can be arsed to actually do anything. Maybe later today or tomorrow.

Also, you do realize scum are going to kill me if I start actually being effective, right? This is probably not going to end well for me.

Well, unless ani shoots two more scum with my assistance. That might work.

Ah well, let's see what happens.

[UncertainKitten]

Oh, by the way

Unvote, Vote Amished

He's not that stupid as town.

[Rifka Viveka]

checking in, its a little cold in here to type alot

current suspicions is dramonic\amished\pom

the MME\UK thing is hardcore bastardlyness

[Amished]

@SpyreX (and to a lesser extent UK): O RLY? You're gonna trust somebody that doesn't even come close to sharing a win condition with us? And we know about it? And we have a way to knock it out of the game without letting them win?

Tell me why you would want to lynch UK? Do you want to play for second place? It's like having an outed scum alive. You can't trust anything they say anyways cause they have no reason to be truthful. What possible motivation would UK have to help us? We know she's a Jester, we don't want to play for "second place" (I don't understand how people can play for second place and not care).

[UncertainKitten]

Amished still sounds like scared scum. Face it. You are facing three kills a night. You need all the warm bodies you can get. I'm not confirmed town, but I am confirmed jester. Which means I'm not killing, nor am I actively working against the town EXCEPT to soak up one of your lynches.

Further, SpyreX is GIVING me a motivation to help you. But, whatever.

[SpyreX]

Fine.

I'm still not reading all 70 pages. I'll start from D2 whenever I can be arsed to actually do anything. Maybe later today or tomorrow.

Also, you do realize scum are going to kill me if I start actually being effective, right? This is probably not going to end well for me.

Well, unless ani shoots two more scum with my assistance. That might work.

Ah well, let's see what happens.

The chances of this ending well for you are not high, this is true. However, this is pretty much the best chance you're going to get - if push comes to shove and it looks like we're losing you'll get shot.

If we're winning, we can come to some kind of accord. Despite OTHER things on this page if the tables were turned and I was scum I'd have no issue lynching the jester to secure the win. Thus I have no issues keeping the jester on my side to secure a win.

Which leads us to:

Tell me why you would want to lynch UK? Do you want to play for second place? It's like having an outed scum alive. You can't trust anything they say anyways cause they have no reason to be truthful. What possible motivation would UK have to help us? We know she's a Jester, we don't want to play for "second place" (I don't understand how people can play for second place and not care).

I have every reason to trust them because working with us is the only way they have a pig's chance in hell of completing their win condition.

Which raises the point: jester != scum. Jesters, survivors, etc - if the game can be swung to a town point why waste the time on them? Scum have a mutually opposed wincon, this isn't. This isn't playing for "second place".

Especially since they serve to narrow down the pool for where scum are - which, as we all know, scum just love.

[UncertainKitten]

Oh, I'll mention one more thing.

I can't self hammer. So if we hit lylo, I'd have to vote myself early to stand a chance of winning.