Mini 937 - Mafia on Death Row OVER


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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:58 pm

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Please please please can we have some discussion before we lynch here. I believe what DeathSauce is saying here. This tells us nothing about his role of course. Why is there so much lying going on in this game, it really is not working for us, and its not like we can use the Lynch all Liars strategy because that would have failed us twice already.

The more and more time goes by, the more and more I think that our certain scum is PEG. Maybe this vote is against the direction of the game right now but

Vote: pickemgenius


I've stated my reasons countless times, and I'd like to also add that in any 3 pronged scum team I can imagine, he's a part of it.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:51 am

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Okay then, wolf.
unvote
. I was a little buzzed when I wrote that last night and maybe wasn't thinking clearly.

inventor game: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5716
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:54 am

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DeathSauce (2) [My Milked Eek, Zodiark13]
pickemgenius (1) [Damon_Gant]
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I'll be gone most of Friday and Saturday. I might be able to post Friday morning or Saturday night or both.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:07 am

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@DS

Thank you for linking your inventor game.
DS wrote:I have also been an Inventor and I was only able to give an invention every other night, but they were available for use immediately. There is clearly some wiggle room in Inventor abilities.
Well I can't disprove the every other night thing, because you died night 1, and even though your role pm says "each night" that doesn't mean VRK didn't mess up there since there were only three inventions and the items go away after use. I also can't disprove if they were able to be used right away, the guy you gave the one shot gun to could have waited a night on purpose to get a better read on people.

I'm gonna have to think about this a little more it seems, not as cut and dry as i thought.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:27 am

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I would like to hear from MME and Zodiark13 since they voted and left it at that, lets get a little more discussion going today, and of course PEG needs to friggen scrap himself off the ground beneath that bridge he jumped off and post.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:16 am

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Hmm I think you're right, that game was a long time ago and I might be mixing it up with another game I read somewhere along the way. I think I was able to give away an invention any night I chose
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:30 am

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I really hate it when my insomnia kicks back in. Man at this point I am ready to vote for PEG for same reasons yesterday and the fact that he hasn't posted as he promised.
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:15 am

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Will post tomorrow. I'm playing FFXIII right now and I have trouble thinking about mafia for ages after.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:37 am

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PEG, just to warn you that your next post needs to have some sort of commitment to who you think is scum. You have not made any sort of commitment of this type all game, I'm not sure you've even voted in the last couple of (game) days.
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:00 am

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Assuming 3 scum, I have 3 presents for you.

PROTIP:

Today is probably LyLo.

PROTIP2:

Deathsauce is within quickhammering range.

PROTIP3:

pickemgenius is as well.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:09 am

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I'm against policy lynches, and that includes Lynch All Lurkers, unless it can be shown that they are intentionally lurking. Not sure that's the case w/ PEG.

Looking back at SAMP's posts, it looks like there are two possible investigations he did on Night One.

The strongest candidate is his iso post 33 where he says:
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! wrote: WE ARE LYNCHING PEG TODAY GOT IT? GOOD. 8-)
The second possibility is SAMP's iso 31:
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! wrote:...and people are still suspicious of Zodiark? :| He's so obvtown it hurts. Look at 340 again.
Based on these possibilities, I think the first is more strongly stated and is therefore the most likely investigation result.

vote: pickemgenius
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:54 am

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Nachomamma8 wrote:Assuming 3 scum, I have 3 presents for you.

PROTIP:

Today is probably LyLo.

PROTIP2:

Deathsauce is within quickhammering range.

PROTIP3:

pickemgenius is as well.
Sound advice. What do you think about the current events Nacho?
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:15 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:Assuming 3 scum, I have 3 presents for you.

PROTIP:

Today is probably LyLo.

PROTIP2:

Deathsauce is within quickhammering range.

PROTIP3:

pickemgenius is as well.
Ahahaha, I forgot about this. It would take a lot of coordination for scum to pull off a quickhammer here though, but not worth the risk to leave it as a possibility.
Unvote


PEG shouldn't consider this as me or anyone else taking pressure off him though, my vote is still on him in spirit.

Of course, Deathsauce doesn't have to be within quickhammer range, both of the votes on him could be scum. (PEG was in range, at least, from my point of view)
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:18 am

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I can understand the hesitancy, but it's only lylo if we're wrong. And we have our cop actually screaming in all-caps from beyond the grave that he's found scum. I think the course is clear.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:35 am

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Yes, but the issue I'm having with that conclusion is that samp's isoposts have ambiguity in them.
- peg being scum
or
- zodiark being town

I'm not sure yet which case would be most likely and I think it to be worth the effort to reread samp's D2 postings. And I will do so after this post.


As for the Inventor recipient claim. I'll provide my opinion about it after getting an answer to this question:
@death sauce: did the pm, in which you supposedly received a one shot power, contain the words inventor or did it hint at an inventor? Or did you assume inventor because of that game you played?
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:36 am

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I forgot to
unvote
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:52 am

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Ok, the Day 2 samp-ISO starts on #030.

#030 - Strong anti-peg post.
#031 - Anti-peg post and pro-zodiark remark. He mentioned post 340 and I still don't see the protown motive behind that post.
#032 - Recap of "zodiark has protown motives"
#033 -
WE ARE LYNCHING PEG TODAY GOT IT? GOOD.

#035 - Urges people to vote peg. Thought zodiark was the vig. (!)

Ok, so we got strong pushing for a peg lynch and several mentions that zodiark is protown.

However, his post #035 makes me think he investigated zodiark. This line in particular: "
Well shoot, I was certain Zodiark was the vig.
"

Also, not the change in his tone towards zodiark in #028 to #031. In #028 he wanted to lynch zodiark (or easjo) and in #031 he called him protown.

Only one explanation: Zodiark does not have a gun.
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:52 am

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Uhh, pardon the quadruple, but that not in the second to last line should be "note".
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:53 am

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DeathSauce (1) [Zodiark13]
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:05 am

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DeathSauce wrote:I can understand the hesitancy, but it's only lylo if we're wrong. And we have our cop actually screaming in all-caps from beyond the grave that he's found scum. I think the course is clear.
I don't understand any of this post.
wolframhart wrote: What do you think about the current events Nacho?
I think that we have to be a lot more careful from now on; I'd rather see peg replaced than lynched because at the moment, we don't have the numbers to go on a lurker hunt.
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:38 am

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My Milked Eek wrote:Ok, the Day 2 samp-ISO starts on #030.

#030 - Strong anti-peg post.
#031 - Anti-peg post and pro-zodiark remark. He mentioned post 340 and I still don't see the protown motive behind that post.
#032 - Recap of "zodiark has protown motives"
#033 -
WE ARE LYNCHING PEG TODAY GOT IT? GOOD.

#035 - Urges people to vote peg. Thought zodiark was the vig. (!)
Iso 30 is more than a "strong anti-peg post". It s a vote for peg with no explanation and is his first post of the day.

Iso post 32 weakens, rather than strengthens his comment in iso 31.
Eek wrote: However, his post #035 makes me think he investigated zodiark. This line in particular: "
Well shoot, I was certain Zodiark was the vig.
Look at that entire post again. It is another push to lynch peg, and his comment about Zodiark is in response to me.

I think you are trying to read to much into SAMP's posts rather than seeing the obvious strong effort to lynch peg. Your efforts to save peg are noted.
Eek wrote: As for the Inventor recipient claim. I'll provide my opinion about it after getting an answer to this question:
@death sauce: did the pm, in which you supposedly received a one shot power, contain the words inventor or did it hint at an inventor? Or did you assume inventor because of that game you played?
It contained the word invention.
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:40 am

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Nachomamma8 wrote:
DeathSauce wrote:I can understand the hesitancy, but it's only lylo if we're wrong. And we have our cop actually screaming in all-caps from beyond the grave that he's found scum. I think the course is clear.
I don't understand any of this post.
What's not to understand? Our cop screamed "WE ARE LYNCHING PEG TODAY!", do we need a bigger hint?
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:47 am

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DeathSauce wrote: I can understand the hesitancy, but it's only lylo if we're wrong.
This is the important part.
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:53 am

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I meant that we only lose if we are wrong, and I don't think lynching peg is wrong
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:39 am

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DeathSauce wrote:
My Milked Eek wrote:Ok, the Day 2 samp-ISO starts on #030.

#030 - Strong anti-peg post.
#031 - Anti-peg post and pro-zodiark remark. He mentioned post 340 and I still don't see the protown motive behind that post.
#032 - Recap of "zodiark has protown motives"
#033 -
WE ARE LYNCHING PEG TODAY GOT IT? GOOD.

#035 - Urges people to vote peg. Thought zodiark was the vig. (!)
Iso 30 is more than a "strong anti-peg post". It s a vote for peg with no explanation and is his first post of the day.

Iso post 32 weakens, rather than strengthens his comment in iso 31.
Sure, I follow you on that, as I found and still find 340 not to have any protown motives, however, it's samp saying he thought zodiark was the vig and doesn't think so anymore that makes me think he investigated zodiark.
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Eek wrote:However, his post #035 makes me think he investigated zodiark. This line in particular: "
Well shoot, I was certain Zodiark was the vig.
Look at that entire post again. It is another push to lynch peg, and his comment about Zodiark is in response to me.

I think you are trying to read to much into SAMP's posts rather than seeing the obvious strong effort to lynch peg. Your efforts to save peg are noted.
Wow, this is a serious twisting. I'm not defending peg in any way as him not being investigated doesn't clear him in any way in my eyes. I looked into samp's posts and I found that he investigated zodiark. And apparently if the conclusion we draw from isoing samp is different from your conclusion, we're defending peg?
ds wrote:It contained the word invention.
I see. Well, if it didn't it would have somewhat confirmed you to be not lying. I'm having quite a few issues with your claim and bordering on not believing you at all.
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