Mini 944- Town Suav├® - TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!!!!! (over)

[Nikanor]

I don't think I'm told if I am blocked.

[Fate]

WAIT WHO REAPLCAAES OUT AS SK?

NEVAR MIND.

Unvote:

Vote: Dramonic

SPY STILL COULDA BUSSED THOUGH. I CERTAINLY WODD HAV KEELD DAT WEAKIST LINK OF MAH SCUMTEAM WITH FIAR.

SPYREX I PERSUADE YOU TO GO BACK TO DRAM. I DONT FEEL MUZZ SCUM ATM.
IM EVEN MOAR OBVTOWN THAN BACK WHEN I CULDNT DIE AS DA BOMB.

[MrSuave]

WHO NEW MAH FALVORZ WUD GO DIZ FAR?! =D. *ahem* Hypothetically, if there was only the RB left, then they would have to choose to RB or kill, not both.

[Fate]

OH WULD U LOOKZ AT DAT NIKANORZ, IF DERE ONRY 2 SCUM+SK I IZ MODCONFIRMEDZZ.

LEZ FOCUS ON MAIN TARGETS NAO.

KTHX

[Nikanor]

Based on the mod information, I really highly doubt we have an SK. Not being able to roleblock as lone scum RB in a two-man scumgroup with an SK makes for a fairly imbalanced game.

[Fate]

OK FIEN.

ANYWAYZ, I PLAYED GAME WIT FARSCUM AND LOST TO HER (WELL I DIDN GIT FOOLED BUY HER, BUT...) SHE WULD NOT DEFEND NS-SCUM LIEK DAT.

NO WAI SHEZ BUDDY. VOET DRAM PLZ.

[SpyreX]

Whats all the crazy SK talk up in the hibbitys. I'm fully 100% claiming one of those kills good sir and we KNOW I'm town up ins soo.

Dram is fine too.

[Fate]

WUT

WHAT>


WWWWWWWWWWWHAAAAAAAT>

WHO DA FACK REPLACES OUT WHEN THEY GET TO BE A VIG? SPY MY BOI YOU JUST HIT THE JACKPOT.

BUT STILL, EARLY CLAIM IS EARLY, NOW U IZ DEAD. HIDER+DOC? I HOPE SO.

IF DRAMZ OK TOO, VOTE DRAMZ.

[Parama]

Fate, stop talking like that. And you're not cleared because we don't know if I've been blocked or not.

If you were blocked, don't you think the scum would have shot directly at you?

[muzzz]

@Spy: I'd love to hear some more details about those new and exciting reasons. Especially the bits where I'm suddenly scummier than the guy you were pushing for yesterday.

I'm also interested in hearing why you're claiming the kill, but not the role.

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If you were blocked, don't you think the scum would have shot directly at you?

QFT. The only way blocking but not killing would make sense is if most of the people on Nik's neutral list where scum. Looking at his last list from yesterday, that'd be Par, Farside, Locke and me. And while most of us are on at least one scumlist, I don't think anybody's accused us of being scum

together

.

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I'll be V/LA starting tomorrow. I should be back on monday.

I'll be holding onto my vote until then, just to be safe.

[farside22]

Well either Nik got blocked or is lying. I found a gun on Fate (aka Locke) and was told he was scum

vote: Fate

Good game. Sorry you took a scummy spot. Also Nik you stated you found dramo scummy why did you hide behind Locke?

With Confid dead I assume vig he wasn't helpful in the least.

[Nikanor]

Oh cool story, bro.

Unvote. Vote: Fate.

I hid behind my neutral reads, as I said I would, farside.

[dramonic]

Fate, stop talking like that. And you're not cleared because we don't know if I've been blocked or not.

If you were blocked, don't you think the scum would have shot directly at you?

touché

Fate I'd like an explanation for voting me.

Natural Action Resolution:
Copy
Hide
Bus
Block
[...]
You can't roleblock a hider, that defeats the purpose of the role.
Therefore Fate is confirmed, as is Nik. SpyreX could potentially be a SK, but mafia will kill him anyways sooner or later

Leaves this:

dramonic
DTMaster
Parama
farside22
muzzz
12Keyblade

Lynch one, NK one, hide behind one.

Cases
1-lynch and NK on mafia: Either we win, or we lynch SpyreX SK and we win then.

2-Lynch OR NK on mafia, mafia killed Nik's hidee: most prob 3p endgame

3-Lynch OR NK on mafia, Nik Alive: assured town win (lynch A, nik hide behind B. if he dies lynch B, if eh lives lynch C)

4-Lynch OR NK on mafia, Nik dies by himself: Town win (lynch the hide target)

5-Only town dies, Nik's hidee killed: LyLo

6-Only town dies, Nik die by himself: Also LyLo

7-Only town dies, Nik's alive: 3p endgame

add anotehr town PR or two and town pretty much can't lose since the odds of 5-6-7 drastically decreases

I support a massclaim!

[farside22]

Based on the mod information, I really highly doubt we have an SK. Not being able to roleblock as lone scum RB in a two-man scumgroup with an SK makes for a fairly imbalanced game.

This is assuming the kill was performed by a serial killer. Plus in the normal I created I had 3 mafia and 1 serial killer which I see in most 12 player set ups.

[dramonic]

Oh look, plot twist with a lying scum

Vote: Farside

just to be safe:

@mod: Do you respect natural order resolution?

[Nikanor]

I really hate to tell you this dram, but I don't think our mod has even heard of Natural Action Resolution.
I don't support a massclaim. I think that all of our power roles are outed now anyway.
dram, here's how it goes down:
We lynch Fate. Either farside is telling the truth and is town, or she's lying scum. I really doubt the possibility of bussing at this point. So we lynch Fate, and if he flips town then we lynch farside.

[dramonic]

well, if he doesn't respect NAR then that screws over my stuff

Also, we could just have SpyreX shoot Farside if Fate flips town.

Unvote
Vote: Fate

Not very suave, mr.

[Nikanor]

Plus in the normal I created I had 3 mafia and 1 serial killer which I see in most 12 player set ups.

That's stupid. Sorry, but a game in which you can lose from a single mislynch isn't a normal game.

[dramonic]

erm...

mislynch + two kills on townies

5 town vs 3 scum vs 1 SK

How is taht town lose?

[Nikanor]

Goon
Goon
Goon

SK

Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town

Goon
Goon

SK

Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town

Goon

SK

Town
Town
Town
Town

SK

Town
Town
Town

Then you lynch a townie and lose the game to the SK. Even though you lynched a goon every day save the last day, you still lose.

[farside22]

Plus in the normal I created I had 3 mafia and 1 serial killer which I see in most 12 player set ups.

That's stupid. Sorry, but a game in which you can lose from a single mislynch isn't a normal game.

Do I really need to post all the mini games that did this ^

[Nikanor]

I'm not saying that the mini queue is filled with good mods. There are quite a few bad mods in the world, farside.
Wasn't there a mini game with a cult leader once?

[farside22]

Also @ Dramo: Typically RB/JK is considered by most mods to be the primary action that proceeds other actions. As it will block a cop, doc, kill......ect

And obviously if I'm lying then I get killed by the vig. Works for me since I know Fate will flip scum.

[Parama]

Well either Nik got blocked or is lying. I found a gun on Fate (aka Locke) and was told he was scum

This is a blatant lie. Assuming you claim gunsmith, the role does not tell you alignment, just whether someone has a gun or not.

Vote: Farside22

1. If Nikanor is telling the truth, then either Fate is town/neutral (not scum) or they are scumbuddies together
2. Nikanor is town, thus the latter option isn't possible.
Thus Fate is not scum. Thus, Farside is scum.
Unless Farside is misinterpreting the report, in which case you just outed our vig.

The SK possibility isn't out of the question but I don't see any anti-town force (scum or SK) shooting at Confid. It just wouldn't make sense.

[dramonic]

Parama, if you were reading well you'd see SpyreX claimed vig.