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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:50 am

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bv310 strikes me as a bald-faced liar.
Perhaps I should preemptively give some reasons for this:
1) Others keep successfully claiming town power roles and producing the results that they want. It looks like bv310 is just trying to cash in on this success with some of his own.
2) He had no reason whatsoever to claim at this point in the game.
3) We've already seen one investigation role which makes his somewhat less likely.
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:13 am

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danakillsu wrote:
Wow, man
EBWOP:
Perhaps: Wow, woman? The avatar of a Male is slightly confusing...
The avatar is my son. :P

bv your play as typical is terrible you will need to explain yourself better.

@wreckstar: Why are you withholding your views on the subject of bv's claim? Why are you not voting him and saying something like Zomg scum, type deal?
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:25 am

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Vote Count

d3x (0)
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farside22 (0)
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wolframnhart (0)
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ooba (0)
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Kast (0)
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Toon Fighter (0)
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ReaperCharlie (0)
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CryMeARiver (0)
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Dragon Phoenix (0)
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Wreck Star (1)
- bv310
Slicey (0)
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Vel-Rahn Koon (0)
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AlmasterGM (0)
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Scott Brosius (3)
- FC Groningen, ReaperCharlie, d3x
danakillsu (4)
- farside22, CryMeARiver, DragonsofSummer, Wreck Star
FC Groningen (0)
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semioldguy (0)
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DragonsofSummer (0)
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bv310 (3)
- Scott Brosius, AlmasterGM, wolframnhart
No Lynch (0)
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Not Voting (8)
- ooba, Kast, Toon Fighter, Vel-Rahn Koon, semioldguy, danakillsu, Slicey, Dragon Phoenix

19 votes available, 10 votes needed to lynch

Deadline is May 22, ~10 am PDT

Vel-Rahn Koon has been prodded.
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:38 pm

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Sorry I can't post really detailed stuff. On my iPod. Anyway, my role is Luke Skywalker. I am able to sense a player's alliance to the force. I determined wreckstar to be evil. I didn't claim before because I was hoping to get the time to do a proper case. Starting midnight shifts has somewhat limited my mafia time so I decided to just claim now.
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:40 pm

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bv310 wrote:Sorry I can't post really detailed stuff. On my iPod. Anyway, my role is Luke Skywalker. I am able to sense a player's alliance to the force. I determined wreckstar to be evil. I didn't claim before because I was hoping to get the time to do a proper case. Starting midnight shifts has somewhat limited my mafia time so I decided to just claim now.
1. CC's?
2. If Wreck Star flips guilty, doctor on bv310
3. I will be WIFOM protecting between farside and wolf
4. Sorry, but we have enough mislynches to vote a "cop"'s guilty -
Vote: Wreck Star
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:48 pm

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unvote


pre-emptive vote on WreckStar

But for now I think we could use:
A)More discussion
B)Wait on Kast to see if he can shoot the "cops" investigation.
and
C)We definitely need to stop having town PR's claim >< I know i started if but that was because I didn't want to see my partner shot ><
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:04 pm

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Oh, and sorry, was only able to pop in for that bit. Tomorrow I will read through the last couple of pages and respond. Presentation is off my chest and went relatively well :D
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:20 pm

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bv310 wrote:I am able to sense a player's alliance to the force. I determined wreckstar to be evil.
Your result used the word "evil"? And what does alliance to the force mean? I think "Dark side", "Light side" make more sense as a result .. Need a bit more clarity on this ..
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:39 pm

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danakillsu wrote:
Second, this doesn't make me scummy. It was a mistake. Mistake doesn't equal scummy, at least not in this case.
LRN2RD!!!!!!! I specifically said in that post that I didn't find you scummy!
Oops, my bad. For the record, I don't find you scummy either. Especially with bv being a (likely) investigative role.
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:00 pm

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Slicey wrote:
danakillsu wrote:
Second, this doesn't make me scummy. It was a mistake. Mistake doesn't equal scummy, at least not in this case.
LRN2RD!!!!!!! I specifically said in that post that I didn't find you scummy!
Oops, my bad. For the record, I don't find you scummy either. Especially with bv being a (likely) investigative role.
Given that bv's claimed target is Wreck, how does bv's role have any bearing on dana's alignment?
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:01 pm

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wolframnhart wrote:
pre-emptive vote on WreckStar
Not completely sure about your intention here, so I'm going to take the conservative route and say this vote doesn't count.
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:03 pm

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Kdub wrote:
wolframnhart wrote:
pre-emptive vote on WreckStar
Not completely sure about your intention here, so I'm going to take the conservative route and say this vote doesn't count.
Yea it wasn't meant to be a true vote, and i probable used the wrong wording anyways.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:27 pm

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Ooba:
danakillsu wrote:I agree with Scott. CMAR, if you're going to claim that much of your role, you should give us the name of your role so that we can confirm whether that fits. Until then, I'm suspicous of you for claiming without any real pressure.
vote: CMAR
. And bv310 always does this, so no one should be voting for him.
Check the last sentence. Saw this as protecting a scummate.
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:05 pm

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ooba wrote:
bv310 wrote:I am able to sense a player's alliance to the force. I determined wreckstar to be evil.
Your result used the word "evil"? And what does alliance to the force mean? I think "Dark side", "Light side" make more sense as a result .. Need a bit more clarity on this ..
What ooba said. ^^^ Need more clarity on this please. 'Evil' or 'good' is not enough for me to believe you at this point. I'm not sure, but I think you were you trying to breadcrumb your investigational capabilities in post 432, without actually telling us that you had hidden reason to suspect [all of his/her posts in iso]. Am I right?

Also, like wolf said, I have
no
idea why you claimed! WTF? The only reason I can conceive is that the current bandwagons appear to be going slightly nowhere and are stagnating with time. I honestly hope you have a good reason for revealing yourself, if you are in fact town.
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:54 pm

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Wreck Star wrote:[Starbuck]
bv310 wrote:Posting in response to prod. And since you brought it up Farside, the "read" on Wreck is more of the "Guilty investigation" variety. Not sure why I didn't say it before.
Elaboration would be awesome, especially because of what you said earlier today in this post.
bv310 wrote:In iso, you read as even scummier than normal. Trust me on this one.
So if it was an "investigation", why would you hold back and not push this "information" sooner? Right now, I disbelieve bv because of the conveniency.
Uh, wait a second... just read this.

How can you
disbelieve
bv310? He's either right, or he's lying, but YOU don't have an opinion on that! Whether you're town or you're scum, you know for
absolute sure
whether he's lying! My scumdar is
shooting sparks
... I think it's about to
catch fire 0_o


Unvote; Vote: Wreck Star
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:58 pm

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Wreck Star is the obvious lynch today, but let's not rush. More discussion is good, especially since probably a few of us will get killed the coming night.

First input from me on the remaining players:

ReaperCharlie
- contributing, I sense a scum hunting attitude from his posts, Most likely town.
d3x
- regular contributions, nothing particularly standing out, except an error in quoting that I think scum would be more careful about. Read for the time being: neutral.
DragonsofSummer
- one good post after being accused of scum-lurking. For the time being, I still think his attitude until then was scummy and not absentee lurking. Pinging on the DP scummometer as possible scum.
FC Groningen
- My prime candidate from day one, and I still don't like his early posts. More appetiting possibilities have come along since then. Read for the time being: neutral with scum tendencies.
CryMeARiver
- I have serious issues with the play style here, and I have difficulty to see why
Yoda
would be limited to a one shot investigation. For the time being, no need to lynch but keep in mind that he is not a cleared townie at all. It might even be that Yoda has been given as a safe claim to scum.

More later.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:35 pm

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ooba wrote:
bv310 wrote:I am able to sense a player's alliance to the force. I determined wreckstar to be evil.
Your result used the word "evil"? And what does alliance to the force mean? I think "Dark side", "Light side" make more sense as a result .. Need a bit more clarity on this ..
To clarify this before I go, my result on Farside said "You determine her to be good." So...
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:49 am

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unvote:
vote: Wreckstar
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:55 am

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semioldguy
- his posts seen in isolation smell like town to me.

Scott Brosius
- reminds me of my own contributions so far. Townish.

Toon Fighter
- lurking almost as bad as savethedragons, but less scummy in his pattern. No read.

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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:30 am

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Vote: Wreck Star
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:45 am

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Ok, here is what I've got for a re-cap on the main stuff we know right now:

Knowns:

-
wolframnhart (
R2-D2
)
and
TwoHeadedCyclops (
C-3PO
)
are
Alliance Masons
(confirmed by THC flip on Night 1).
-
Kast
used a Day Vigilante power on Day 1.

Semi-Knowns (claims):

-
CMAR
claims investigation on
farside 22
. Result: 'determined to be
good
'.
-
bv310
claims investigation on
Wreck Star
. Result: 'determined to be
evil
'.

Both investigation claims are unconfirmed, but results are similar enough, and both claims are believable enough. This could be an elaborate scum attempt to capitalize on an appeal to probability, but (again, an appeal to probability) that scenario is pretty unlikely. Take what you will.

Role Claims:

wolframnhart
-
R2-D2
(Alliance Mason)
. Role is
confirmed
by THC flip night 1.
Kast
-
Han Solo (Day Vigilante)
(no alignment specified, Alliance alignment assumed based on rolename claimed).
Day Vigilante power is confirmed.

CMAR
-
Yoda
(Alliance Jack-of-All-Trades)
.
bv310
-
Luke Skywalker
(unspecified investigative role) (no alignment specified, Alliance alignment assumed based on rolename claimed).

Flips
:
hp [leaves] flipped as
Boba Fett
(Neutral Survivor/Jack-of-All-Trades)
.
totallynotmafia flipped as
Crix Madine
(Alliance Townie)
.
TwoHeadedCyclops flipped as
C-3PO
(Alliance Mason)
.


Anybody have anything to add to this that I missed?
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:47 am

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Step one.
Happy ScumDay d3x!
Thanks Starbuck!

@farside632-
I think d3x may need a better radar but somthing of note that so far everyone he had on his radar had some town role.
Interesting. There were 4 people on my radar, adn while I fully admit that I was wqrong on the 50% that flipped {and probably Cry as well}, what about Scott are you saying is Town, exactly? I'm obviously not seeing it.
not a fan of asking why he should join a wagon.
I'm not going to call this a misrep, but that's definitely not what I was saying. The subtext here is that I don't for a second buy their reasons for having so many Votes here. I couldn't find any satisfactory reasons for their Votes, so I was questioning the Wagon.
I don't believe for a second you are that much of a newb to ask these type of questions to CMAR
Then what exactly are you trying to suggest? He was flipflopping over the great expanse of 2 posts. He couldn't have investigated in that timeframe. If he was Claiming, than he needed to Claim. If he was Scum faking a result that was unneccessary, then it was the perfect time to catching floundering over it.
Why did you feel that it was thrown together in desperation and didn't make sense?
I probable said this, but I'm not sure where. Point to it plz???
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:51 am

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The result was that I determined my target to be evil. I assume this means "on the Dark Side", except simplified for anyone who hasn't seen Star Wars.
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:08 am

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d3x wrote:Interesting. There were 4 people on my radar, adn while I fully admit that I was wqrong on the 50% that flipped {and probably Cry as well}, what about Scott are you saying is Town, exactly? I'm obviously not seeing it.


When you list 4 players and only 1 may be scum I would say your scum radar needs a tune up
Then what exactly are you trying to suggest? He was flipflopping over the great expanse of 2 posts. He couldn't have investigated in that timeframe. If he was Claiming, than he needed to Claim. If he was Scum faking a result that was unneccessary, then it was the perfect time to catching floundering over it.
I felt he was doing a piss poor job of breadcrumbing to be honest.

The final thing was in regards to what you said about hp{leaves]
d3x wrote:Sorry, I forgot about Slicey's question. I Voted because the Claim was a load of crap. The Role didn't make any sense and felt thrown together in desperation, imo.
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:10 am

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Holy shit, what the fuck is this nonsense? I take a few days off and bv310 conveniently pops back in with a guilty on me. Jesus H. Christ.

I guess we're being forced to claim since people are blindly believing this with no reason for flavor. I'm not sure what the fuck bv310 is smoking, but I'm certainly not evil.

I'm
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Last night, I tracked SOG to THC. No bullshit. See my post here where I randomly target SOG after not mentioning him previously after D2 starts. Then here, when we place an FoS on SOG. I wasn't sure if he was a town PR who happened to visit the NK victim or not, and I thought by applying soft pressure he might slip up and reveal some connections, which I could use to town's advantage. But here we go with me being forced to claim.

Vote: SOG
unless he has a mighty convenient claim to explain why he visited THC last night.

@Town: seriously, just fucking trust me on this. I have no fucking clue why bv310 would get a guilty on me unless there's a redirect or some weird flavor shit going on, but let us lynch SOG today and you'll see how fucking right I am.

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