Cyberbob wrote:So.. you want Charter and then me to be lynched after today but you also want people on the SK wagon? Yeah okay.
Your objection is noted, but more importantly, I've been wondering lately how the specific combination of Buffalo sauce, chicken, and sandwiches ever came into play. Buffalo sauce is delicious in just about every context imaginable (I had some great Buffalo fries the other week), but chicken sandwiches are typically not that great. Why, then, is the Buffalo Chicken Sandwich unsurpassed by its peers in the sandwich world? The synergy of the ingredients must more than make up for the otherwise subpar nature of a bland chicken sandwich. I find it inspiring, really. The teamwork makes up for any weakness of the individual parts.
No, that wasn't an attempt at gaining unvotes. I've been a dead man walking since replacing in. I actually just had something I wanted to say before death.
Sorry about the whole thinking you were scum thing.
Thor: I haven't read Fate. As previously mentioned it wasn't going to happen until tonight, and tonight I may or may not still be alive (so I probably just won't bother).
Seriously, though. When you're the one being mass-attacked, it becomes much easier to tell who really believes what they're saying. Kill Cyberbob and charter.
Thor665 wrote:@charter - no desire to hear from Socrates first?
Going and checking his posts, I see he doesn't have anything substantial from today which I think is pretty inexcusable. Either get interest in the game or replace out Socrates. I didn't realize his lack of posting was this severe. So yeah, I do want to hear from him and whether he agrees with a Pie lynch or not and who he's most suspicious of and why.
Thor wrote:I also recall during that answer asking you where you saw my attachment attempts to Pie, which you have not offered thoughts on.
Well, that's being too specific. I misspoke when I said you specifically were trying to tie yourself to Pie, because your breakdown of the posts earlier was correct. Still, the actual meaning I was going for is that you were both kind of on the same boat together.
Pie wrote:Thor wagon sucks.
If someone handcuffs themselves to you, you're both still handcuffed together.
Thor wrote:I feel my standpoint of voting Pie is pretty clear but saw no real need to put a vote on him until after he did his re-read as I feel his attention is already too focused on defense over scumhunting.
This seems a little counterintuitive to me, to be honest. Pie's been upfront about his reads. What do you hope to learn? I think you should be more upfront about it.
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@Cyberbob: you may find the reactions to such switcheroos amusing, but I fail to see how they help catch scum. I find it extremely difficult to take you seriously.
MichelSableheart wrote:@Cyberbob: you may find the reactions to such switcheroos amusing, but I fail to see how they help catch scum. I find it extremely difficult to take you seriously.
I fail to see how the reactions help catch scum as well.
Oh you were referring to my switch to SK? It's a sincere one (the humour value is secondary) so uh
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Thor wrote:I feel my standpoint of voting Pie is pretty clear but saw no real need to put a vote on him until after he did his re-read as I feel his attention is already too focused on defense over scumhunting.
This seems a little counterintuitive to me, to be honest. Pie's been upfront about his reads. What do you hope to learn? I think you should be more upfront about it.
I disagree about Pie being upfront about his reads (well, let me clarify to, he's been upfront - but he hasn't offered many). At the time I posted that response his 'reads' seemed to consist of townish towards Thor and Michel and suspicious towards SK.
Since then he's dropped SK and now lists Cyberbob and charter as top suspects. He has also maintained that he has yet to go back and look over Fate's actions, something I clearly have been desirous of him to do.
Thor: I said many times that the reread wasn't going to happen 'till Tuesday. Come Tuesday, everyone is waiting around for the Pie hammer. Forgive me, but I'm not going to waste an hour of my day rereading when it's not going to change any minds.
Most of my changing reads center around the fact that this particular game has developed a meta where WIFOM hasn't been invented yet. We view it as scummy to hammer, scummy to vote for townies, and clearing to cast an unprovoked vote for scum. This, of course, is horribly stupid, but any scum in their right mind would take advantage of it.
I don't think SKscum would be as willing to bitchfight with me or Cyberbob (unless SK/Cyberbob is a team) as he was. I say this because if/when either of us flip town, by this town's dynamic it would make him look terrible. SKscum would likely avoid the situation or conduct a gentler attack.
Cyberbob, meanwhile, hops off the Pie wagon as soon as my lynch looks inevitable. He conducts a purposefully silly attack on SK to justify dropping his vote there. That makes me think: it's not like SK did anything that overshadowed me in Cyberbob's mind; he probably just wanted to unassociate himself with the Pie wagon. The most likely reason for this is that association with townie death in this town is considered scummy, and he knows I'm about to flip town, and so he's scum.
Charter is smarter than his vote would suggest. I've gotten the sense that he's a decent player, but when I've suggested that I should be unvoted due to objective concerns (the track), he threw a bit of a controlled hissy fit. When scum smell townie blood, they typically get actively annoyed when the wagon starts to die, and that's what I see going on here.
I've explained why I think Thor is town, and me thinking Michel is town is fairly uncontroversial.
This leaves Socrates (very possibly scum due to his predecessor) and Copper (effectively cleared by gunsmith).
That's actually quite excellent, and very clear. I've never actually considered meta for a specific game, which is an interesting way of looking at it.
@Col.Cathart
Could we please have another prod on Socrates, he hasn't posted since Friday.
I would rather lynch SK than myself or Thor. If anyone votes you or charter or Socrates I will gladly switch my vote (unless SK gets more votes in the meantime).
Are you planning to withhold your vote until the last possible moment again, Thor? Or do you disagree with a Pie lynch? If you do disagree, do you have an alternative suggestion for the lynch? Who and why?
If you are planning on voting for Pie, then I don't think it's necessary to continue prolonging the day.
I accept you disagree with my reasons, but my reasons are there. Besides, as already shown if/when I hammer him if he's scum that will make me scummy in your eyes since I suspected him for most of the day and didn't vote him, and presumably if he's town I'll be scummy for helping to lynch town. So I might as well at least wait and see if I get the commentary I wish to have prior to placing my vote.
