Mini 945: Mafia in Bawlmer - GAME OVER

[StrangerCoug]

So someone tried to kill me. That's food for thought.

[Ythan]

Or

[StrangerCoug]

I can tell what you're hinting at, but that's not what it is.

[Ythan]

At least we can confirm you as either definitely mafia or definitely not mafia.

[StrangerCoug]

Whom did you jail on nights 1 and 2?

[Ythan]

Didn't n1. ML n2.

[MacavityLock]

Interesting. I believe Ythan's claim, mostly due to

Blown up v shot. Anyone care about flavor? Might just be the new mod unaware of some flavor convention Konowa had planned for the game.

Why jail SC last night?

[Dizzle]

Hold up guys, can we get back to that terrible lynch? Why on earth was luke lynched so quickly?

[xvart]

I'm thinking one scum faction, probably three players in a game this size. Yes no?

One scum faction. Three players: DC, Dizzle, and someone else.

Why jail SC last night?

Yes, why did you choose SC?

Ythan - did you consciously not jailkeep N1 or did you miss it?

Hold up guys, can we get back to that terrible lynch? Why on earth was luke lynched so quickly?

Can we not talk about both?

Dizzle = scum: First RVS vote on DC, note that RVS vote was still on DC. Asks everyone to chill out on the DC wagon, quick wagon slip, calling how "off" the luke lynch felt, and then wanting to focus on the terrible lynch instead of the jailkeep thing (or both).

That's solid enough for me.

Vote: Dizzle

xvart.

[Dizzle]

First RVS vote on DC, note that RVS vote was still on DC.

What is this even referring to? I never voted for DC and DC eventually removed his RVS vote on me.

quick wagon slip

Sorry, I messed up my abbreviations. Either way, I wasn't part of either the DC or ML wagons.

calling how "off" the luke lynch felt

My bad, guess I should have just gone along and quick lynched a clearly noobish guy not given a chance to legitimately defend himself.

wanting to focus on the terrible lynch instead of the jailkeep thing (or both).

The jailkeep thing is definitly an issue but there had been no mention of that awful lynch in the first 15 D4 posts.

[xvart]

First RVS vote on DC, note that RVS vote was still on DC.

What is this even referring to? I never voted for DC and DC eventually removed his RVS vote on me.

I typed it backwards, your scum buddy RVS'ed you and then made a point to note he had not removed his vote yet.

xvart.

[Dizzle]

What about my other points?

Also, ML, what about Ythan's comment makes you believe his jailkeeper claim?

[Ythan]

Why jail SC last night?

Didn't want to jail the same person twice in a row if nothing happened the first time.

Ythan - did you consciously not jailkeep N1 or did you miss it?

Consciously. Part of it was that I didn't have enough to go on, part of it was that I was deciding how to play the role and didn't know what sort of player I should be looking for to target. I'd rather be a vanilla townie tbh it's a pretty unfun ability.

[xvart]

Sorry, I messed up my abbreviations. Either way, I wasn't part of either the DC or ML wagons.

I'm less concerned with the abbreviation than the actual "quick wagon" comment. Only scum "quick wagon" to my knowledge. And as you noted, you were not a part of it.

calling how "off" the luke lynch felt

The problem is you so glaringly called it an obvious mislynch, and then immediately want to focus on how terrible it was at the start of next day. You are trying to make everyone realize how you were against the wagon.

We are in great position now. When we lynch Dizzlescum then we either win or can be in a better position to prove/analyze the jailkeep situation.

xvart.

[Ythan]

Quick wagons are not exclusively under scum's domain.

[Ythan]

Also how does a Diz lynch put us in a better position to analyze me?

[xvart]

Not you, but your ability to jailkeep. If we lynch scum today and we go into night, you jailkeep SC again tomorrow and if there is no kill then most likely SC is the last scum (unless there are four scum); or he could no kill...

If the third scum tried to kill SC last night then SC would be jailkept again and someone else would be targeted and then SC would be nearly confirmed town.

I guess it really isn't as solid as I first thought, with tons of WIFOM in either scenario. Although, something to be discussed.

xvart.

[Dizzle]

Only scum "quick wagon" to my knowledge. And as you noted, you were not a part of it.

Even if it were true that only scum quick wagon, how is this even a point against me? By your logic, if I were scum, wouldn't I likely have joined 1 of those quick wagons?

[Ythan]

No, your attempt to direct my night action and your WIFOM are not as good as you thought.

[StrangerCoug]

calling how "off" the luke lynch felt

The problem is you so glaringly called it an obvious mislynch, and then immediately want to focus on how terrible it was at the start of next day. You are trying to make everyone realize how you were against the wagon.

We are in great position now. When we lynch Dizzlescum then we either win or can be in a better position to prove/analyze the jailkeep situation.

xvart.

Again, your logic fails. I'll entertain an "I told you so" attitude as a tell if it comes off as avoiding a mislynch, but lukedukepuke was being of no use. That Dizzle thought he was a VI should not incriminate him per se if he's right.

Also, for a Dizzle lynch to win right now, there can't be an SK and he has to be the one that tried to kill me. Whether he was the attempted killer last night is irrelevant right now, but I have serious doubts about 10:2. Assuming that all the power roles in the game are the ones we know about, two goons vs. a watcher, a jailkeeper, and eight vanillas is horrendously imbalanced toward town.

I also can't think of how a Dizzle lynch will help Ythan out.

Vote: xvart

[Amished]

Dizzle (1): xvart
xvart (1): StrangerCoug

Not voting (5): Ythan, Netopalis, MacavityLock, Dizzle, Cyberbob

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline for Day 4 is May 19th.

[Ythan]

Who wants whom. Is this correct so far?

StrangerCoug - xvart
Netopalis - Dizzle, Coug, Lock
xvart - Dizzle
MacavityLock - ?
Dizzle - ?
Cyberbob - ?

[Cyberbob]

Vote: Netopalis

[Cyberbob]

(I dislike scattergun approaches to scumhunting and I especially dislike the way he acknowledged that he's coasting through the game on the 23rd of April but still has yet to do anything about it)

[Ythan]

My experience with Neto as a player is not extensive but his play in this game definitely has surprised me. Then again, I haven't seen him active recently.