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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Thu May 20, 2010 10:43 pm

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What's a VI-lynch?
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Thu May 20, 2010 11:13 pm

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I've read 15 pages of stuff. I've made notes, which I can copy pasta here if anyone wants to read my brain directly, but I would prefer more time to complete my read + neatly compile a summary. I don't believe there is urgancy as the deadline is about 10 days away.

I realize that this game has good players in it, so yay and also there is a 2 week deadline instead of 3 (which I've been accustomed to). Another yay for quicker pace.

In case I was voting for anybody,
unvote


In case anyone wants to know my experience:
Completed 3: All newbie games
Ongoing 3: 1 newbie and 1 large theme and this game

Later, people.
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 2:59 am

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to answer charlies questions:

Coasting in this case that Vi was talking about is:
to advance or proceed with little or no effort, esp. owing to one's actual or former assets, as wealth, position, or name, or those of another: The actor coasted to stardom on his father's name.
VI - Village Idiot.
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 6:18 am

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I am seeing a pattern here! People named Charlie are scum!

confirm vote: Charlie


@Vi: I don't get it.

Let's try some math! 10 players - 2 malfunctions - today's lynch = 7 norm + 2 malfs assumed total for D4

Assuming hp[town]:
Lynch hp[town] today = 7 - 2(dead) - 2(malf) = 3 players and 2 malfunctions for D5.

Pretty awesome if you think about it. 1-2(2 is very unlikely though.) scum are in those three. Malfunctions can still vote, scum will die easy. Farside's ability is icing on the cake.

Lynch hp[town] tommorow = Lose. Do the math for me, because this looks pretty dismal even without calculating it.

The only alternative is keeping hp till LyLo. However...I am thinking that there is
probably
a way for hp[scum] to use the malfunction for himself at LyLo. Not gonna explain it though, but if you use yer head you might get it.

Conclusion: Today is the only day to lynch hp. If we don't lynch him today, he's definitely going to be at LyLo with a possible trick up his sleeve.
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 6:38 am

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VasudeVa 1253 wrote:I am seeing a pattern here! People named Charlie are scum!

confirm vote: Charlie
I don't see why this warranted a confirm vote. I admit I was a little scared when I saw another Charlie as the last person to post earlier.

As for math, here's where we stand.

8 Townies, with two about to die
2 Mafia

Say we lynch hp[town] Today. Then the two poisoneds die, two more Townies get poisoned and immediately die, and then two more people get poisoned.

3 Townies, with two about to die
2 Mafia

Not only is this LyLo, but even if Town lynches correctly, the Day ends with 1-1 after the poisoneds die. Scum wins by default.

--

Say we lynch dramonic-scum Today. Then the two poisoneds die, and ideally just one Townie gets poisoned the next Night.

6 Townies, with one about to die
1 Mafia

This is verranice.

--

Say we lynch dramonic-Town Today (shock!) Then the two poisoneds die, and two Townies get poisoned overnight.

5 Townies, with two about to die
2 Mafia

This is LyLo (No Lynching will eventually cause a loss as in the first scenario). Assuming we lynch correctly, the game goes to 3-1 with one about to die. That is MyLo, although again I don't particularly recommend No Lynching.

--

If scum have a Beloved Princess, this setup will have successfully crossed into Godawful territory and there had better be a good explanation for it in postgame.
Further, assuming hp[scumprincess] self-destructs, if he's the last scum then BOTH scum and Town fulfill their Win Conditions, so there's no problem.

--

tl;dr If we lynch hp[leaves]/Charlie and he is Town,
we lose
.
If we leave him for later, the risk in lynching him goes way down (at LyLo it doesn't matter; in the 6-1 case it's much more tolerable).
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 6:52 am

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Vi wrote:As for math, here's where we stand.

8 Townies, with two about to die
2 Mafia
Unless the mafia have two kills, we're looking at an SK somewhere as well.

I'm also increasingly suspicious about Llama's claim. Reaper's flip confirms scum are colorless, but Seacore's investigations reveal role, not color/lack thereof - no town mechanism is based on that.

Thoughts on a fake miller claim gone wrong? As there's no reason to give that to a townie.
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 6:58 am

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I believe the Mafia have two kills, yes.
8-3-1 as a starting setup is notoriously swingy; I'm going to be disappointed if that turns out to be the case.

I've thought a couple of times about it being a fake Miller claim, but considering the amount of effort and foreshadowing that went into it I'm not inclined to buy into that theory. I am disappointed in retrospect that he didn't give a role name during Twilight 1; that would have cemented his slot as Town.

There is a halfway decent reason to make a Townie colorless though if you consider the scum Win Condition.
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 7:07 am

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I was thinking the same thing that EB was saying just in his last post however I think Seacore stated he get's informed that someone is a pretty princeling or something of that nature.
I think pretty is in reference to someone with color but this is a bit out guessing of the mod.
I'm also wondering in the back of my mind if someone that is town is colorless would one scum have color?
Just things I ponder.
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 8:50 am

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Hey, thanks for answering, farside22!

I'll be upright honest with everyone:

I've read through every page in this thread, around 80% of each page.
I've read the first 15 pages in detail.
I've read pages 16-18 in minor detail.
I've skimmed through the rest.

From what I read, we've went through a massclaim. We have very unusual game mechanics and strange claims. We have good players who post detailed stuff (sometimes the sarcasm is hard to detect, but that's ok)

My role as a beloved princess makes it absolutely vital that I don't end up dead, so I'm making this my primary goal.

My suspicions lie on dramonic. Second suspect... maybe Robocopter87 or Ellibereth, mainly because I think the rest are pro-town. ElectricBadger and Seacore are linked: likely both town aligned.

I'm not going to vote immediately. The reasons being that I'm relatively new, and more time to read stuff is beneficial for my self-preservation. It is very likely that dramonic lynch would occur without my vote as well (from the tone of the previous posts, Vi would like to hammer...okay!). Also, consider this an FoS. I'm sorta seeing dramonic without seeing him!
VasudeVa wrote:I am seeing a pattern here! People named Charlie are scum!

confirm vote: Charlie
No, Charlie the unicorn is innocent. He's slightly off-white in colour; some would say he is
grey
in colour. He got tricked by a
violet
and
purple
unicorn into going to
Candy Mountain
. As soon as he entered the Candy Mountain Candy Cave, he was brutally knocked silly. When he awoke, his right
kidney
was missing.

Anyway. How can I prove to you that I'm one of the good guys?
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 9:16 am

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1. Dram isn't dead yet? I thought we were in twilight already for some reason...
2. I just skimmed but Charlie looks town.

I'll actually read all this stuff later
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 9:31 am

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Charlie wrote:No, Charlie the unicorn is innocent. He's slightly off-white in colour; some would say he is
grey
in colour.
Percy wrote:What is
BLACK
doing in your Kingdom? You go closer to investigate, and find a large contraption draining the Colour from the surroundings. It is a bulbous pylon, thrusting out of the tiles in the Dance Floor. Around it, there is no colour - only
BLACK
and
GRAY
.
Easy mode continues.

But since that won't happen today-

V
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 9:50 am

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Percy 1 wrote:Votes should be in
bold
in the format Vote: Playername, but I will also permit See:Playername.
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 9:54 am

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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 10:04 am

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ElectricBadger wrote:
Charlie wrote:No, Charlie the unicorn is innocent. He's slightly off-white in colour; some would say he is
grey
in colour.
Percy wrote:What is
BLACK
doing in your Kingdom? You go closer to investigate, and find a large contraption draining the Colour from the surroundings. It is a bulbous pylon, thrusting out of the tiles in the Dance Floor. Around it, there is no colour - only
BLACK
and
GRAY
.
Easy mode continues.
Just so you know... he is making fun of a meme here.
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 10:11 am

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LlamaFluff wrote:Just so you know... he is making fun of a meme here.
So a randomly inserted
witty
comment can't have significance to the game? Weren't you the one who said the scum don't know each other and we should watch for them to communicate?
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 10:29 am

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ElectricBadger wrote:
LlamaFluff wrote:Just so you know... he is making fun of a meme here.
So a randomly inserted
witty
comment can't have significance to the game? Weren't you the one who said the scum don't know each other and we should watch for them to communicate?
Yeah... im just kind of all over the place with my play in this game, not really pleased with it. Still not used to the "scum searching for scum" type mindset and am reacting to what looks like negative comments to jokes.
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 4:24 pm

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Electricbadger wrote:So a randomly inserted witty comment can't have significance to the game?
Yeah. VasudeVa made a joke and I played along. Having to explain this sucks the joy out it in the first place, so thanks a bunch. That colourful story is quite pointless actually.

So dramonic is at L-1. Vi stated she wants to hammer...
Any last words, dramonic?

Another issue: I'm no expert when it comes to roles and setup, but if I'm not mistaken Llamafluff claimed to be colourless. Would it be possible that he has the role of a recruitable traitor?
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 7:48 pm

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ElectricBadger and Seacore are linked: likely both town aligned.
What?

Given that we have both claimed, and you think we are town, you should assume we've told the truth.
So how can we be linked?
I think this is a cheap attempt at town cred.
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2010 8:12 pm

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Oops! My bad... I meant ElectricBadger and VasudeVa are both linked. I say this base on claims.
VasudeVa on 2 seperate occasions wrote:Claim: Prismatic Robot Pony

Claim:
N1 - No one visited Llama
N2 - No result
ElectricBadger wrote: I am a Watcher. I have three colors, which I won't say specifically in case they aren't posted post-mortem. My ability only functions as long as there are three points of another color in the rainbow. However, my results are not sent to me, but to the Prismatic Robot Pony; I know them to be town but not which player they are...<snip>

...<snip>the Prismatic Robot Pony is mod confirmed town
I made this mistake because I've posted without sorting out my notes. My apologies.
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Sat May 22, 2010 1:04 am

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I think we've gotten everything we need out of Today.

Decisively See: dramonic


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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Sat May 22, 2010 4:55 am

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"Oh, I think I'd better lie down!" says
Seacore
.

"I feel woozy in my tummy tum" echoes
VasudeVa
.

They both collapse to the ground, and with a spark and a whirr, move no more.

dramonic
steps daintily over the bodies, and with head held high, advances towards the
Black Object!


Seacore
,
Robot Stargazer Unicorn
, died! His
Colours
were
Yellow
,
Orange
and
Blue
.
VasudeVa
,
Jealous Princeling
, died! His
Colours
were
Orange
,
Green
and
Purple
.

dramonic
has been lynched. It is now
Twilight
. None of the lynched or dead players may speak any more.

Image
"Here was your final Vote Count for Day 3!"


Ellibereth
opened his eyes and sees
dramonic!

LlamaLuff
opened his eyes and sees
dramonic!

Seacore
opened his eyes and sees
dramonic!

farside22
opened her eyes and sees
dramonic!

ElectricBadger
opened his eyes and sees
dramonic!

Vi
opened vis eyes and sees
dramonic!


VasudeVa
opened vis eyes and sees
Charlie!

dramonic
opened his eyes and sees
Charlie!


Robocopter87
and
Charlie
had their eyes
shut!
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Sat May 22, 2010 6:28 am

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well I'm confused, but this pretty much is what llama stated about scum not knowing each other but the colorless thing makes less sense.

God this game is confusing. Was Soc/RC actual a SK type role?
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Sat May 22, 2010 6:34 am

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Sorry had appendix taken out.
Will read the thread and post soon.
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Sat May 22, 2010 7:13 am

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What what? VasudeVa was scum...? But then that means...

Change of plans!

*Scum (at least some of them) have colors :\
*There has to be an SK, because otherwise the VasudeVa kill couldn't have happened. (Unless the scum thought they could bank a gambit off me :? )
**Tonocracharlie couldn't have been that SK because then the second kill would never have happened. Godfather hypothesis still stands.
*Either the Prismatic Robot Pony is scum, or it outrightly doesn't exist at all.
**This flip strongly suggests that ElectricBadger was lying (but an incredible lie nonetheless).

*I feel vindicated for pressing VasudeVa earlier... and at the rate we're going, ElectricBadger too. Not having a running tally of how well I'm doing is one of the drawbacks of being Town ^.^
*hp[charlie] is most probably NOT scum with VasudeVa. On the other hand, I'm very confident in this dramonic flip.
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Sat May 22, 2010 7:13 am

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Well. Percy did say there was no guarantee this game would make sense.

My assumption is that VV was the SK, since there were two kills last night, after Reaper was lynched. Colored v. colorless and different colors on the reveal definitely indicate they weren't on the same side though.

Trying to figure out if I can get something more from my role; the specific wording states that Vas and I were working together against the threat to the digital kingdom. I guess that leaves the possibility that he was an SK working 'together' against mafia, although it still seems very bastard moderish.

I sent a PM to Percy to confirm my understanding of the watcher role, but that part is pretty clear. So my role is either outright lying or town reporting info to scum, which is...diabolical, honestly. Something was definitely sent, though, 'cause he knew I targetted llama N1.

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