Karma Mafia (Game Over!)
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Patrick Rantbuddy
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Espeonage (3) -- Faraday, NickF227, Jahudo
Seraphim (4) -- boberz, Javert, Albert B. Rampage, Espeonage
Amished (1) -- Ojanen
Faraday (4) -- farside22, Amished, dybeck, Seraphim
Not voting: curiouskarmadog
13 alive, 7 to lynch.
Deadline: 26th of May, 10pm GMT.Last edited by Patrick on Sun May 23, 2010 9:32 am, edited 2 times in total.Primpod 11:13 pm
chamber can you please come to ukmeet
i would love to finally touch your face-
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Amished Mafia Scum
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Sorry for the unexpected V/LA there; became really busy for a bit.Seraphim wrote:I wanted to know if there was another larger reason for Farside suddenly jumping from "cold day in hell when I unvote this guy" to starting the Faraday bandwagon. It must have been something I missed because I made a case on you earlier.
Basically, it's part self-preservation, part stronger read, part "blind faith", and part chickening out on lynching Espeonage.
I will admit that my Esp vote was almost completely based on self-preservation.
Anyways, not much has happened, but the bolded (while being able to be taken two ways) shows to me an openness that I feel reflects on a townie. The more I focus on just his posts, the more I don't like him for scum.
Faraday hasn't done anything redeeming and I'm not sure what Jahudo is doing..I'm going on a crusade to put more thought into my posts.
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Jahudo Mafia Scum
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For starters, I don't think his plan to deal with Pom was scummy. She looked like a good lynch to me.dybeck wrote:
What is it about Faraday that's convinced you of his town credentials?Jahudo wrote:Passing the time. I can't think of anything else to ask Espy, and the other wagoned people look town to me.
I have no problem with him seeing BV as town and wanting to lynch Richard. I was the same way, and think his thought process was just like mine. Would I be a pretty good wagon? Why have I slipped by?
And I don't see his lurking as scummy, but just limited access that also affects other ongoing games apparently.
So I guess the reasoning is down to him not offering anything, and not finding scum yet. Maybe he's trying to lie low, but I've been reading it as non-alignment factors like lack of time and commitment.-
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Fair enough. Some pro-town people thought Pom was scum. There was certainly something of the scum about her play.Jahudo wrote:
For starters, I don't think his plan to deal with Pom was scummy. She looked like a good lynch to me.dybeck wrote:
What is it about Faraday that's convinced you of his town credentials?Jahudo wrote:Passing the time. I can't think of anything else to ask Espy, and the other wagoned people look town to me.
But nobody liked the Pom lynch as much as scum did. Don't forget that they KNEW Pom was a pro-town power role. They wanted the lynch more than anyone else.Eeny. Meeny. Miney. Vote.-
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Dybeck I'm struggling to understand why you find or found my plan scummy? I mean if you disagreed with it, I guess that's understandable. I thought it was reasonable at the time, and it would have been best if we had been able to utilise or confirm her role in some way, but that ended up not being possible. Why do you think what I proposd is more likely to come from scum?are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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Also i wasn't really up for lynching her at first, it became clear however that her role couldn't be confirmed or used due to the likelyhood of scum being able to mess up any plans.dybeck wrote:
But nobody liked the Pom lynch as much as scum did. Don't forget that they KNEW Pom was a pro-town power role. They wanted the lynch more than anyone else.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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As I said at the time, directing the hider would have given scum a two-for-one night kill.Faraday wrote:Dybeck I'm struggling to understand why you find or found my plan scummy? I mean if you disagreed with it, I guess that's understandable. I thought it was reasonable at the time, and it would have been best if we had been able to utilise or confirm her role in some way, but that ended up not being possible. Why do you think what I proposd is more likely to come from scum?
Even after I pointed this out to you, you still wanted to go with the plan. What's the pro-town motivation for this?Eeny. Meeny. Miney. Vote.-
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I pondered on that for a while - naturally he was in trouble and needed something special to dig himself out of a hole.Albert B. Rampage wrote:dybek and CKD, why do you think Sando said that he got an innocent investigation result on you?
Perhaps he felt that by taking a punt on me, who was his most vocal antagonist at the time, he might get me off his case and the town would fall in line behind.
What I don't get is why he didn't claim to have copped us both. Unless he had someactualinformation about my actions Night 1, it's such a counterable claim that I still don't really see the merit.
@ABR: Why did you "fake-claim" and not wait to see if I could counter-claim?Eeny. Meeny. Miney. Vote.-
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Even having sprung up a defence of Esp on L-1, my read of him is the most swingy.dybeck wrote:@Ojanen: How do you feel about the three current wagons?
Faraday is next. He declared townreads on almost everyone? Liked that as town though.
Sera's D1 is still townish.
dybeck's last post is odd.
I am home from travels and zzz, wall with thought in morning. (if this activity pattern continues any longer I should replace out, but it shouldn't; I'm home.)-
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Try not to do this WIFOM. I did the same thing as scum once, fake claiming saying I was a cop. I proclaimed a player in the game town (that I knew was town) the town upon lynching me that day went after the player I proclaimed town and proceed to lynch him.Albert B. Rampage wrote:dybek and CKD, why do you think Sando said that he got an innocent investigation result on you?
Great for the scum team, bad for town.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Faraday ...should I be here?
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Because that's not what the plan came down to and your failure to see that baffles me. It could have resulted in 2 town deaths, but that would have meant a)a controlled scum nightkill on a player who they wouldn't have likely wanted to kill and b)at least a lynch isn't wasted on Pom this way.dybeck wrote:
Even after I pointed this out to you, you still wanted to go with the plan. What's the pro-town motivation for this?are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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Ok (re)reading from page 67, as usual typing as I go.
…site is loading slow..ugh.
explain to why town lists are good, does the benefit out weigh the disadvantages? (this is more than theory discussion)Amished wrote:If they're done stupidly, then yes; town lists are a bad reason. (I know where you're going with this, but whatever)
this post is noted between Fara and Nick...Espy is not a better lynch.Faraday wrote:
Yeah I don't think this is telling. having said that the claim really does nothing for me either. We've already seen Bv claim vanilla as scum, too.NickF227 wrote:I don't buy Espy's claim at all, mostly because he said it was his role was 'Vanilla Townie', even though earlier in the game by a townie death, it showed the role was named 'Villager' here. =/
Espy wagon > Sera one.
*REFERENCE note Amished (1698) pushes Esp wagon to -1 over Sera…I don’t like this vote.
silly question probably, why is he "out of his mind" vs. "scummy'?dybeck wrote:
Amished - you're out of your mind.
*REFERENCE, Farisde votes Fara and ties the wagon up between ESP/Sera, then Amished joins the Faraday vote putting Sera back in the lead…I don’t mind this vote though.
you are useless. maybe scummy, but definately useless.NickF227 wrote:So you guys think Espy is scum but since you have suuuch stone cold proof we have to switch our votes now?
Metagaming is gay, anyway.
*REFERENCE, dybeck unvotes and votes Fara, tying up the leading wagons.
farside, here is my first hiccup with you? If you could lynch Sera, why would you derail his wagon to wagon Fara? Your unvote/vote of Sera would put him closer to a lynch, however, your unvote.vote of Fara just tied up the Esp/sera wagons..farside22 wrote:I'm starting to like bobz, faraday, sera scum team at this point. Bobz could be replaced by Nick or Juahno.
In short I would lynch faraday or Sera today based on some interesting interactions on the vote count and reactions to people voting Faraday.
explain.
REFERENCE, sera jumps on a wagon with momentum,….dont like.
fucking bad post....Seraphim wrote:You can't have refuted my arguments to nothing because I haven't made a proper argument against you yet.
If I'm still alive tomorrow, we'll talk then.
no clue....but you have been playing this game as long as I...so I know you know there are several possibilities.. You should also know that this is WIFOM..so I am not sure the point of this question.Albert B. Rampage wrote:dybek and CKD, why do you think Sando said that he got an innocent investigation result on you?
Vote Sera,
I thought he was town Day 1…and I could have excused today’s voting hoping as survival, but his most recent plays are looking just plain scummy. Also Esp is town. Fara's wagon looked good at first, but now, not liking the looks and speed which it formed.
Sera, my vote puts you at -2 (like you asked Esp, I want a claim)-
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