Mini 969 - Smalltown: Stardust Mafia (Game Over)

[CallMeLiam]

RC: I explained why I wanted you off the lynch, you're quoting me out of context and repeatedly ignoring the issue of trying to arrange the votes to maximise the use of our sensor's ability. You are by far the scummiest player in the game and if it weren't for Jack's obvious guilt after N1 there's no way you would still be alive.

This is also the same reason I was holding off the lynch, as well as repeating the fact that longer days and more discussion is better for the town. We could easily have lynched Jack after around 72 hours but more discussion is always better.

Like kdub says, I think it's getting too late to scurry votes around like we wanted to, because no-one seems happy to talk about it.

unvote, vote: Jack[/]b]

Jack is caught scum, and dies today. We need RC to die tomorrow. He's making a spurious case on me, he's ignoring any case on himself and everything that made him scummy D1 is still there today.

Obviously this kills us if Starbuck wS lying about not submitting N1 and using a divorce to cover but this sounds unlikely.

[CallMeLiam]

unvote, vote: Jack

[Starbuck]

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On CallMeLiam

Are you serious about you vote in Post 356 on RC? Given everything else that's going on in the game, that's a very weak reason to be voting someone. Do you have any real suspicion of him? Or are you only voting him because you are annoyed?

Jack's lynch seems inevitable, and is a good one, but lynching his buddy would be fine also.

So if you feel that Jack is scum, why would you not want to lynch the most suspected person rather than someone who you aren't quite sure of?

In the mean time I prefer to leave my vote on you because you're acting just as scummy as Jack during the day and your continued presence in the game makes no sense if you're town.

The only reason you're alive is that your scum buddy got cold feet about killing you.

Once he's swung, you're up.

What has he done that makes him scummy to you?

It seems like you know the bolded for a fact.

And why are you trying to set up a lynch for tomorrow?

On Jack

TNM is on there for blatant horrible waffling.

Can you provide examples of this?

But I'm more interested in wiping out the mafia,

kind of a personal grudge.

You know that I'm the queen of the MS rules and guidelines, so I'll just let it speak for itself..

Mith's Forum Rules and Guidelines

Do not bring outside influences into the game - this includes threats, bribes, wagers, promises, alliances, etc. Using knowledge from previous games is perfectly acceptable, but

try not to carry grudges from one game to another.

The fact that you are stating that you have something personal affecting your judgment of things going on in this game is bothersome.


I'd also greatly appreciate if you would stop insulting charter.

Things like...

If you're town you're a ****** moron and getting vigged if we play again.

...you blithering idiot.

If you are town, replace out in shame please. Hell, if you're scum replace out in shame.

are not helpful at all.

On reflection, I think I'm confusing myself by insisting on the SK label for kdub. He could just be regular scum, and one of the other guys could be the SK.

So why is Kdub scum now?

He's going to be 6th on your list now after charter, isn't he?

Also starbuck is blatantly just sitting and waiting for me to be lynched.

This is bullshit, quit assuming that you know what I'm doing.

On Zang

Also, I didn't ask you whether or not you felt he used his ability

But it is one of the reasons why I thought he was town which you did ask.

You just recently mentioned his action.

I'm going to be doing an iso of you when I'm done and see just how many times you mention what Jack's alignment is.

[totallynotmafia]

Vote: Jack

Just in case he wants to self-hammer. I think Starbuck is likely scum I'll explain why if I have time before night.

[Starbuck]

Zang in relation to Jack

Day 1

From Post 118...

I think this Jack and magna thing is Town vs Town.

From Post 127...

And I think it's Town vs town because tbhe argument against magna is weak and I see Jack as more of a misguided townie than a scumbag.

He blatantly states twice in a row here that Jack is town.

He then backtracks in Post 146 after being questioned about his certainty of their towniness to...

2.I never said I rulled them out. I just don't think they are scummy because of what they are being accused of.

Then in Post 180

Once again, I never said either jack or magna is town. I just don't think they are scum/SK/whatever because of the arguments currently against them.

Hypocritical much?


So at the beginning of Day 1, Zang says "Jack is town! Jack is town!" Then it backtracks to "I don't think he's scummy". Then "I NEVER said Jack or Magna is town".

Day 2

From Post 292...

I networked Jack.

From Post 324...

Jacks quickhammer has nothing to do with why I networked him. I networked him because he's probably the only one (besides maybe the lurkers) who doesn't think I'm obvscum.

I already beat the above to a pulp in my previous posts.


From Post 332...

Do you think the fact that Jack doesn't suspect you somehow makes him more likely to be town? I'm interested to see what case you come up with against Starbuck considering she's barely posted in the game so far.

No, although I do think he might be. Me thinking that he was town had little relation to me voting for him.

From Post 415...

I do feel he is town but that is not why I networked him.

From Post 417...

You are really sticking your head out on a limb for Jack. Why do you feel that he isn't scum?

He isn't scum because you are

and because I see no reason why he would not use his CPR ability.

So basically Day 2 goes as Zang saying, "Hey guys, I networked with Jack NOT BECAUSE I believe him to be town, but because he doesn't think I'm obvscum."

"I'm not sure anymore that he's town or scum, but he might be town."




Zang has not said one accusatory thing to Jack all game. He's gone as far as to white knight him.

[ooba]

..] Vote Count [..

Kdub (0)

havingfitz (0)

ReaperCharlie (0)

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Starbuck (3)

- Jack, Zang, havingfitz

totallynotmafia (0)

Zang (0)

Jack (6)

- charter, Kdub, ReaperCharlie, Starbuck, CallMeLiam, totallynotmafia

charter (0)

CallMeLiam (0)

peanutman (0)

Not voting (1)

- GroupThink

That's a lynch!

Jack,

Humphrey

, Town lynched Day two!

Deadline for night actions: 13th June 4:30 P.M GMT

[ooba]

"What do scum do?"

"All right, I'm sorry. Let me... Do I get another guess? Is it: Do they know exactly how to annoy a boy called Tristran Thorn?"

"No. They know how to kill!"

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havingfitz,

Tristan Thorne

, Town blown up with a blast of magic and stabbed with a sword!

It's now Day three. With 8 alive, its 5 to lynch!

[Kdub]

Vote: Starbuck

Charlie is next up tomorrow.

I motivated Zang during the night. GroupThink, what were your results?

[Zang]

Vote: Starbuck

I networked Charter and havingfitz.

[ReaperCharlie]

Vote: Starbuck

Liar, liar, pants on fire.

[GroupThink]

There were 2 witches.

vote Starbuck

[totallynotmafia]

Oh wow we are so losing this game with people acting that quickly.

We now know either Zang or Groupthink is scum (or possibly both but less likely).

Groupthink if you are town then you could have thought about your results for a second and realised that means you know 100% that Zang is scum. If Zang is town then he now knows for sure that GT is scum.

I was thinking Starbuck was scum but the way everybody has voted so quickly is beginning to worry me (particularly because there's at least one scum on there), I mean if Magna did actually block Jack then we're totally screwed right now. Can we slow it down a bit and actually think about things for a second?

[Starbuck]

I love how GroupThink doesn't post anything about what's going on with the game since he replaced in (other than if he used his Night Action), but can come in on Day 3 still without giving any input and vote.

Vote: GroupThink

[ReaperCharlie]

Magna was on my lynch, and he is not scum. I am not scum, therefore I know Magna did NOT block Jack from killing me, therefore it had to be Starbuck.

Lynch all liars.

[Starbuck]

I didn't use my ability. Magna probably (and I say probably because I don't know this as fact) blocked Jack.

[ReaperCharlie]

Why would Magna (as town) block Jack from killing me, when Magna was ON MY WAGON?

Either it was a very elaborate TOWN-BUSSING scheme, or you're lying. I will take my chances with the latter.

[Starbuck]

I don't know why he would. All I know is what I didn't do, and I did not use my night action on Night 1.

[Starbuck]

I went to L-1 in less than 4 1/2 hrs. If you mean to say that there is no scum in that bunch, then you are gravely mistaken.

[CallMeLiam]

Waiting for groupthink before I hammer.

[Starbuck]

Waiting for him for what?

He already said there were 2 witches on yesterday's lynch.

[totallynotmafia]

CML yesterday you said it was unlikely that Starbuck lied but now you want to hammer her after only 12 hours?

FOS: CML

Anyone hammering now will be considered extremely scummy, there's no need to rush this.

Zang, what do you think of Groupthink's results?

[CallMeLiam]

Waiting for him for what?

He already said there were 2 witches on yesterday's lynch.

I apparently missed that. Oops.

TNM: I also thought it was very likely that Jack was scum so apparently I was wrong.

Does anyone beside TNM think we need to wait?

[totallynotmafia]

I cannot fathom how you think hammering and ending the day this early with no discussion at all is a good idea, especially given we now finally have GT's results. You don't have anything to say about it?

[totallynotmafia]

@RC, if you are town then what is Starbuck's motive for redirecting the roleblock on Jack? If she left things alone there would be a townie dead with Jack responsible anyway, so why exactly would she do it? It seems to me much more likely that she would do it if you are scum and she was trying to protect you.

@Starbuck, did you use your ability last night?

[Starbuck]

I did use my ability.

I redirected Liam's guard to myself because all we've seen is townies fall and since I know my alignment, I didn't want to see another night where we could possibly lose two townies.