Mini 985:Madness at Night: Game over

[hiphop]

And another thought. If we lynch charter ToDay

One vote on him, and not yours, and you are talking about lynching him?

[AlmasterGM]

hiphop, it's like 2% wifom. The other 98% is just pure ridiculousness.

And even the wifom is stretchy. Scum gambit of letting claimed cop SSBF live is this early in the game is VERY risky.

[crypto]

Well Almasta, I don't think the pressure you put on SSBF was really decisive enough to refer back to it, but I'll play along.

Vote: llamaeatataco.

[hiphop]

hiphop, it's like 2% wifom. The other 98% is just pure ridiculousness.

And even the wifom is stretchy. Scum gambit of letting claimed cop SSBF live is this early in the game is VERY risky.

Then why don't you vote SSBF? They let Charter live. I would think that if there were 2 left, they might kill charter in case the roleblocker dies. If Charter is town, it makes me think there is only one left. You know what might as well.

unvote
vote Super Smash Bros. Fan

Let's do this
Spyrex, Almaster, Crypto, and Nopo are all town. So no matter which way we go we cannot lose.

[AlmasterGM]

I don't see why we are lynching SSBF first. On the off chance that his story is right, llama is a smaller loss.

[hiphop]

I don't see why we are lynching SSBF first. On the off chance that his story is right, llama is a smaller loss.

Because I believe llama is more likely town than ssbf. Who do you think is more likely town?

[crypto]

Spyrex

What?

[hiphop]

Spyrex

What?

Are you saying Spyrex is scum? Spyrex voted Sando. right? Are you saying every scum candidate voted their godfather? Brillant move scum, outing your godfather pretty much confirming there is a cop. Admit it, SSBF is the correct lynch.

[hiphop]

Also think about if SSBF does flip sane cop, doesn't this mean that Almaster is more likely insane?

[crypto]

Spyrex

What?

Are you saying Spyrex is scum? Spyrex voted Sando. right? Are you saying every scum candidate voted their godfather? Brillant move scum, outing your godfather pretty much confirming there is a cop. Admit it, SSBF is the correct lynch.

I don't see why you'd lynch the CC over the guilty at this point, especially since there's already a miller claim. And getting Spyre to vote Sando was like pulling teeth.

[AlmasterGM]

If you lynch llama and he flips town, then we know I'm insane and there is a chance SSBF is telling the truth and we have a cop. If you lynch SSBF and he flips town, you lynched the cop and you don't know anything about llama. There could just be two cops plus a lying charter and a lot of counters (roleblocker, godfather, and millers), which wouldn't be THAT unbalanced.

It doesn't matter who you think is more microscopically scummy; strategically, lynching llama is the correct play.

[crypto]

Mmhmm.

[hiphop]

If you lynch llama and he flips town, then we know I'm insane and there is a chance SSBF is telling the truth and we have a cop. If you lynch SSBF and he flips town, you lynched the cop and you don't know anything about llama. There could just be two cops plus a lying charter and a lot of counters (roleblocker, godfather, and millers), which wouldn't be THAT unbalanced.

It doesn't matter who you think is more microscopically scummy; strategically, lynching llama is the correct play.

So you agree with me that Spyrex is the townie we should join with. As long as town has one more than scum, we can pick the other 4 off. Pretty sure scum lie in the other 4.

You guys probably have more experience than me, but i think you have it wrong. If llama flips town or scum, you know nothing. If he flips town, how do you know that ssbf is town? What is anywhere that say if llama is town, ssbf is town too? My point exactly. However as I already explained if SSBF flips town, I am more inclined to believe that you are indeed insane. Think about it, 2 cops of the same alignment, or two cops of different alignments. So ssbf is the way to go.

Also If I say that you have a 50% chance of being insane or sane, being that the mod had an equal chance of picking either, and you say

The other 98% is just pure ridiculousness.

I would go for the 98% chance.

I want to hear what, Spyrex and nopo have to say about this, before I go and follow you guys.

Crypto- Do you have a 4 that you think can be trusted, as of right now, to be townies?

[llamaeatataco]

ok, up to page 18 now.

vote:spyrex

'yeah dawg, he's totally softclaimed being a pr, but let's lynch him while he's on v/la anyway.'

alamanatee also comes out hella scummy imo for his constant reminder that he is MOST DEFINITELY WILLING TO LYNCH THE GUY WHO CAN'T DEFEND HIMSELF.

I'm not reading jack shit from today until I finish my reread, because my brain won't be able to handle it (I hate movies with flashbacks, too).

[hiphop]

^^I read it as OMGUSing.

[llamaeatataco]

I think we should lynch llama before you. If he flips town, then I'm insane and you might be cop. If he flips scum, like I STRONGLY suspect, then you're 100% confirmed scum, no ifs ands or buts. Also consider the fact that you were insanely scummy yesterday, so there's no reason I should believe anything you say at all.

I suggest a third scenario: alamanatee is lying scum and ssbf is insane cop.

@Hiphop: w/e.

Now, why would lynching me be a bad idea? BECAUSE YOU DON'T LEARN ANYTHING! Seriously. Assume you lynch me:

1. I flip scum: You know that alamanatee is either legit sane cop or bussing scum (why the hell he would bus on d2, I dunno, but w/e).
2. I flip town: You know that alamanatee is lying scum or insane.

^^ See that? No matter what my flip is, there's still a possibility that alamanatee is scum.


Also, after finishing my re-read,

unvote, vote:Charter

He claims gunsmith.
Evidence for cops, but no evidence for gunsmiths.
ABSOLUTELY REFUSES TO LYNCH SANDO.
Sando = godfather
Sando lynch = confirming cop almost.

[hiphop]

unvote, vote:Charter

He claims gunsmith.
Evidence for cops, but no evidence for gunsmiths.
ABSOLUTELY REFUSES TO LYNCH SANDO.
Sando = godfather
Sando lynch = confirming cop almost.

[Hayker]

Vote Count

Llamaeatataco 2-(AlmasterGM, Llamaeatataco)

Super Smash Bros. Fan 2-(charter, hiphop)

Charter 1-(Llamaeatataco)

Not Voting 4-(nopointinactingup, Wickedestjr, SpyreX, crypto)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Mod note: Nopointinactingup is V/LA for a couple days, will begin prod count for him on Wednesday.

[llamaeatataco]

hiphop, was that a qft or a quoted for fail?

[crypto]

Llama:

Why would charter-scum fake-claim gunsmith at that interval, hiphop?

[llamaeatataco]

No clue. If he fails hard enough to do what I just pointed out, it's possible. But then again, that's slightly circular...

I really don't know. I'll figure it out when I'm not watching tv while posting.

[crypto]

I don't think charter would fail that hard.

So?

[llamaeatataco]

he obviously did. Is there some sort of meta reason to counteract his obvious scumminess?

[crypto]

He's a smart and competent player.

[llamaeatataco]

then explain his play this game.