NY 117: The Vanillaside (Game over)

[RayFrost]

k, Mpr = town.

k, elli = lacksexplanation

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

ugh... 3 pages while I'm asleep. Not cool guys.

Vote: Incognito

You didn't say hi.

Just want to say that we're out of RVS already. Do you have anything you want to say about the game?

[RayFrost]

ugh... 3 pages while I'm asleep. Not cool guys.

Vote: Incognito

You didn't say hi.

Just want to say that we're out of RVS already. Do you have anything you want to say about the game?

You

being out of the RVS doesn't mean

I

am prohibited from my random vote.

[Ellibereth]

VOTE: RAY

[RayFrost]

VOTE: RAY

^5 for voting me before I've even read the thread.

[Seraphim]

hmmmmm. Socrates, at the moment, seems town. My scumdar ticks in other directions.

Unvote
Vote: RayFrost

I suspect one of RayFrost/SSBF is scum. They are not scum together. RayFrost's play in this game reminds me of his play in another game where I replaced him as scum(you left me quite a shitload which I got lynched for if I recall). SSBF, on the other hand, seems rather forceful with his wording and seems to enjoy being helpful without being helpful, such as his time storage idea in his fifth post, information instead of analysis. Or rather, analysis without actual meaning.

Of the two, I will vote RayFrost for now because of my experience with his play.

[RayFrost]

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Unvote
Vote: RayFrost

I suspect one of RayFrost/SSBF is scum. They are not scum together. RayFrost's play in this game reminds me of his play in another game where I replaced him as scum(you left me quite a shitload which I got lynched for if I recall). SSBF, on the other hand, seems rather forceful with his wording and seems to enjoy being helpful without being helpful, such as his time storage idea in his fifth post, information instead of analysis. Or rather, analysis without actual meaning.

Of the two, I will vote RayFrost for now because of my experience with his play.

I recall that game, if you mean my first IC game. Do you also recall the details surrounding it? I was in ~5 other games, at the height of my being burnt out, and it also approximately preceded my taking a vacation from mafia for two months.

And if you are judging this off of

three

posts, I find it inadequate. My posting in that game was a long sequence of promises I never fulfilled. I haven't made any this game or, really, done anything, considering I've just woken up.

[Seraphim]

Exactly. I am very much looking forward to actual content from you.

[Ellibereth]

VOTE: RAY

^5 for voting me before I've even read the thread.

Yeah but you've read your pm sooooooooooo

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

You being out of the RVS doesn't mean I am prohibited from my random vote.

By the time you've made your first post, RVS was already finished up and we were finally getting something to work on. All you needed to say was that you were catching up and that would be good enough as long as you actually come through with contents.

[Ellibereth]

Stop talking about the whole RVS finished or not stuff. It's stupid.

[SpyreX]

I'm still trying to grasp the shocking bullet.

Although I have a tear in my eye at the number of townie vibes I get in these first few pages. Its almost enough for an alliance on page 4 my lord.

[DemonHybrid]

Thoughts on anything other than MPR?

Yeah. But first, as far as MPR goes, I'm doing some thinking and I'm also very familiar with his meta...however, I believe you have it wrong.

Here comes some lolmeta...ugh (those who play with me regularly know I hate talking about meta)

In my experiences with him, when he's lurky, he's usually town. Just has nothing to say and is often bored with his role to the point where he won't pay much attention. Him speaking this much in a game is odd for his town play.

However....something about this game makes me feel alright with him being town as well. Mostly about the way he handled the pressure of us questioning his "contradiction".

The second quote was attempting to rephrase the term "concerned," because though it's obviously a matter of interest to me that I'm being wagoned, I'm not actually worried that I'm about to be lynched.


The wagon was growing too quickly for my liking. And yes, you did say that I was concerned about being lynched, in this quote.

This, by the way, is not a contradiction. Again, a rephrasement is in order- I'm not worried that I'll be lynched from scumminess right now, but I'm slightly nervous that a whole bunch of people voted me quickly. Quicklynches are bad. Like quicksilver. I think that gives you cancer.

The speed of the wagon was pretty alarming, I'll admit, and he reacted exactly like a townie should, IMO. I found it pretty alarming that the reaction to my post pointing out that I thought he contradicted himself a little created a firestorm of votes on him. So, for right now, he's fine in my book.

However

, I do not like SSBF's relentless pursuit of MPR. It seems too forced. I think he's one of the few people who took that contradictions to heights where it shouldn't have been. Also, this post didn't sit right with me:

@Korts: Keeping xRECKONERx alive until endgame will be a very daunting task to do. We do not want to lynch him for sure and we obviously cannot afford him to be NK'd. With no protection role for the town, scum is going to be hard-pressed to keep him around, especially if he were to give his all to help the town. Prehaps him being completely useless until endgame would help his chance of survival, as scums like useless townies, but we all know how much we hate useless confirmed townies.

Basically, the chances of xRECKONERx living to endgame is very, very slim.

However, while we don't want xRECKONERx to die, one benefit of his death by scums hand is that scum would have to give up one of there power role and become Mafia Goon. It would suck to see a confirmed townie die, but at least scum loses a power role, so that's something to gain from xRECKONERx's death.

Either way, the Town Power Roles should do nothing to him during the Night.

And I had another realization. With a Vigilante, if we lynch scum ToDay, kill scum ToNight, and lynch scum agan Tommorow, town wins. Yes, a Day 2 victory for the Town is possible. But we need to be completely accurate with lynching and the Vigilante killing scums and hope that the Vigilante doesn't die.

The first bolded quote: How does he know what scum's going to do? Furthermore, that's -quite- a lot of speculation of the twist we have in this game.

The second bolded quote: He seems to be very set on how long this game should last. Call it gut, but that kind of speculation subconsciously rings out as somewhat scummy to me. It shows eagerness for the game to be over.

Unvote, Vote: SSBF

[RayFrost]

You being out of the RVS doesn't mean I am prohibited from my random vote.

By the time you've made your first post, RVS was already finished up and we were finally getting something to work on. All you needed to say was that you were catching up and that would be good enough as long as you actually come through with contents.

Blegh, this is a style choice more than scum or not.

@ Seph:

Working on it atm. I was before you voted me, too :/

[DemonHybrid]

ugh... 3 pages while I'm asleep. Not cool guys.

Vote: Incognito

You didn't say hi.

Just want to say that we're out of RVS already. Do you have anything you want to say about the game?

RVS ends for different people at different times. You can't dictate when someone's RVS is over.

[SpyreX]

Ellli help me out here because I just want to slam 87 to the wall and kill it dead because stretchinggggggg

[RayFrost]

Ellli help me out here because I just want to slam 87 to the wall and kill it dead because stretchinggggggg

Kill it. I'm too busy to do it.

[Seraphim]

SSBF is scummy for reasons strangely not outlined in DemonHybrid's post. Hmmm...

bussing or not...legitimate or not...

[SpyreX]

SSBF doesn't even strike me as all the scummy at the mo.

Regardless of that aside from twirling mustaches that 87 reads like some magnificent stretching.

Time for a crusade!

Unvote, Vote: DemonHybrid

[RayFrost]

Just some thoughts that pop out at me from reading through:

This entire post scream wrongness to me. The first 3/4 of the post is pretty much stating the obvious on not lynching immediately and not waiting until deadline. The whole 29% thing isn't very helpful either... seriously. It's an empty post up top. His response to socrates on his vote was fine, but his comment about MPR seems like a lot of stretching.

This post gives me iffy feelings. I don't see how seriousness = scum, but I can see how somebody might misconstrue MPR's style change to be caused by worry about being lynched. So it leans both ways on like and dislike

This contradicts the post above it.

This looks like not reading hybrid's posts - it can be seen that hybrid said that he's concerned/worried about being lynched

Stating the obvious AND missing some key points such as (as MPR said) the redirector role...

I beg to differ on the first point - it's happened in the past... even in games I'm in. Second quote - two people can read the same thing and get something different out of it, your post implies the bandwagon will lead to a lynching, which would be the concern about the bandwagon in of itself (which I think is what MPR read as well), third quote is good, though.

Vote: SSBF

FoS: Hybrid, Elli

I've been in one too many games where Elli-town provides more useful stuff than this for me not to feel edgy about him.

[RayFrost]

Oh, : x leads to angryfaec. I didn't mean for that to be the face.

[RayFrost]

Anyway, my good fellows, I shall be heading offline for now. I have a midterm to do, you see.

[DemonHybrid]

SSBF doesn't even strike me as all the scummy at the mo.

Regardless of that aside from twirling mustaches that 87 reads like some magnificent stretching.

Time for a crusade!

Unvote, Vote: DemonHybrid

Well, I like to pick up psychological tells as well as logical ones. Eagerness, jealousy, anger and frustration are good places to start, and I see his post as nothing but eager to get the killing started. Otherwise, all of SSBF's contributions have been about MPR's wagon (which I don't like the speed of) and dictating peoples' RVS lengths. Right now, he's the scummiest person I know, but it's only page 4.

[RayFrost]

Lies - SSBF has "discussed" the matter of lynching reck, how we should spend our time day by day, and the MPR wagon stuff (along with a style-wise attack on me).

You just have your MPR wagon stuff and this new attack on SSBF soon after people question / attack you about only focusing on MPR

Comparably... you would be scummy from your own standards.

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote, Vote: DemonHybrid