Mad World: Time Travel Mafia (Game Over)

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm not sure how likely a town flavour cop is.

As far as I am aware, not very likely at all.

[ReaperCharlie]

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I just went back and looked for the Rhinox claim.

Yes, I would like to know who the Time Traveler's Wife is. Do you also learn her role and abilities, or just her flavour?

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm not sure how likely a town flavour cop is.

As far as I am aware, not very likely at all.

Sorry I am thinking role-cop. This is most often a scum role. Not sure about flavor cops.

[Robbnva]

now If I counted right in my head, I think we have Rhinox at L-1

lol which hidden votes are YOU counting?

You and anon already had votes on him and you both revoted for him, I thought they were new votes.

[curiouskarmadog]

Interesting thought, I think I have played with Anon 2-3 times, and I have never agreed with him more in a game…not sure what that means, but I like posts, 555, 556 (though I am not certain Robb is town), 557, 559, especially the line:

You are hunting for apparent scumminess while not looking for real motives.

Which was directed at lynchme

Claim:

Archaeologist Professor Edward A. Johnston, a Time Traveler. I'm basically a flavor investigator. I know who is Clare, the Time Traveler's Wife. I can say who that player is and they can confirm I'm not lying, or I can keep that information secret for now... up to you guys what you want me to do.

a Flavor cop?....ok, so, lets say this isnt a "safe" claim and he is telling a truth about his role, this speaks nothing of alignment. personally, I dont believe the claim.

[Rhinox]

a) Alpha was the one doing the targetting, right?

Correct

b) You get the result the same night, right?

I don't know, the result was in my role PM when I replaced in. I assume it would be either during the night or the start of the next day.

c) What do you get? Flavor, class, role, alignment,?

Flavor role name only, not class or alignment.

Also, I learned in the first non-newbie game I was in that scum are often given safeclaims or their identities are different from the expected alignment (Superman could turn out to be scum, for example). Would it be possible that this sort of trickery would basically render a flavor investigator role useless by them finding out only the safeclaim flavor or the switched alignment name or whatnot (note: this question is meant to be a general question to everyone, though I want to know what Rhinox thinks about it too)?

My thought on the role is that it could be used to tell if someone was making a fake claim.

[Rhinox]

a Flavor cop?....ok, so, lets say this isnt a "safe" claim and he is telling a truth about his role, this speaks nothing of alignment. personally, I dont believe the claim.

Is it that you think I'm lying about my role, or that you think my role is what I say it is but you think I'm still mafia?

[Rhinox]

In the future, I think town power roles should wait until it's absolutely necessary to claim. L-3 with another L-3 wagon doesn't seem like great timing to me.

A claim 4 days before deadline is better than a claim 1 day before deadline - more time to discuss.

[Robbnva]

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I just went back and looked for the Rhinox claim.

Yes, I would like to know who the Time Traveler's Wife is. Do you also learn her role and abilities, or just her flavour?

Just quoting in case rc is actually scum, of course he would want to know who she is

[Robbnva]

In the future, I think town power roles should wait until it's absolutely necessary to claim. L-3 with another L-3 wagon doesn't seem like great timing to me.

A claim 4 days before deadline is better than a claim 1 day before deadline - more time to discuss.

Is there another rob here? I don't think I ever said that.

[Rhinox]

In the future, I think town power roles should wait until it's absolutely necessary to claim. L-3 with another L-3 wagon doesn't seem like great timing to me.

A claim 4 days before deadline is better than a claim 1 day before deadline - more time to discuss.

Is there another rob here? I don't think I ever said that.

My bad, that was Kagelord.

[Anon]

Rhinox, based on Alpha's posts, do you think his targetting makes sense? Yes or no?

[ReaperCharlie]

now If I counted right in my head, I think we have Rhinox at L-1

lol which hidden votes are YOU counting?

You and anon already had votes on him and you both revoted for him, I thought they were new votes.

Sounds like a scum tactic to coerce a claim at L-3. If you really went back and counted votes, you'd have noticed that we were already voting for him. Even if we didn't notice. Scummy.

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I just went back and looked for the Rhinox claim.

Yes, I would like to know who the Time Traveler's Wife is. Do you also learn her role and abilities, or just her flavour?

Just quoting in case rc is actually scum, of course he would want to know who she is

This is a poor attempt to state the obvious, but in a way to try to paint me in a bad light.

And it's done in a non-committal way, in order to appeal to the subconscious. On purpose.

Unvote; Vote: Robbnva

[curiouskarmadog]

a Flavor cop?....ok, so, lets say this isnt a "safe" claim and he is telling a truth about his role, this speaks nothing of alignment. personally, I dont believe the claim.

Is it that you think I'm lying about my role, or that you think my role is what I say it is but you think I'm still mafia?

does it matter? I dont believe the claim, but lets say you were telling the truth(about your role) or I believed the claim (role), this claim does change anything, meaning there is really no way to prove that it is a town role.

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RC, you are putting yourself in a bad light.

[KageLord]

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I just went back and looked for the Rhinox claim.

Yes, I would like to know who the Time Traveler's Wife is. Do you also learn her role and abilities, or just her flavour?

Just quoting in case rc is actually scum, of course he would want to know who she is

So does this mean you are against the idea of Rhinox revealing Clare?

[curiouskarmadog]

also, about who you targetted, do you know if you targetted them to get the info?...meaning, we also have a claimed redirector.

[curiouskarmadog]

given this claim a second thought now I sit here and think it out..

that being said, if I have to choose between shark and rhino, I would rather go with rhino....

I would like to lyncn lynchmeplease instead of either....anyway, we can get that wagon started?

[ReaperCharlie]

I will *gasp* probably read the topic later and pass along my thoughts.

And I'm not worried about putting myself in a bad light as long as it reveals scum, ckd.

[Robbnva]

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I just went back and looked for the Rhinox claim.

Yes, I would like to know who the Time Traveler's Wife is. Do you also learn her role and abilities, or just her flavour?

Just quoting in case rc is actually scum, of course he would want to know who she is

So does this mean you are against the idea of Rhinox revealing Clare?

If Clare is pro town and not currently about to be lynched, yes I am hesitant about outing another person. Outing too many roles early is never a good move,

[ooba]

Not just one. He made many mistakes during the time they spent together, all those years ago. Memories of their relationship have become muddled, replaced wholesale, but one remains clear....

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..] Vote Count [..

Mafuyu (0)

Rhinox (3)

- Budja, SharkFinn, curiouskarmadog

ReaperCharlie (2)

- CallMeLiam, diginova

curiouskarmadog (0)

Robbnva (2)

- Rhinox, ReaperCharlie

SharkFinn (4)

- I doubt it, Mafuyu, LynchMePls, Empking

KageLord (0)

CallMeLiam (0)

Anon (0)

Budja (0)

LynchMePls (1)

- Robbnva

diginova (0)

Empking (0)

I doubt it (0)

Not voting (2)

- Anon, KageLord

With 14 alive, its 8 to lynch!

[Robbnva]

@RC, you calling me scummy is the pot calling the kettle black sir.

I may come off scummy, my wrong vote count, I was on my phone

Wanting to out another potential power role on day 2 isn't a sound idea, cause there probably isn't enough protection to go around. Forcing an out just gives mafia a choice of which role is more of a threat to them.

[KageLord]

@RC, you calling me scummy is the pot calling the kettle black sir.

I may come off scummy, my wrong vote count, I was on my phone

Wanting to out another potential power role on day 2 isn't a sound idea, cause there probably isn't enough protection to go around. Forcing an out just gives mafia a choice of which role is more of a threat to them.

If the "wanting to out another potential power role" thing is about Clare, I'm not sure that applies. Rhinox said he can only find out flavor. So even if he found Clare, he wouldn't know if she even had a power or even if she was pro-town. So even if scum find out who Clare is this way, I don't see how that would put her in any additional danger (unless scum decide to go after her for some reason instead of the claimed PRs). That's just my two cents.

Anyone else have an opinion about this?

[ReaperCharlie]

imo Clare would be a VT. I saw the movie a few months ago, and she has absolutely no time-travel powers. But revealing her identity wouldn't actaully confirm her as a townie, so I don't really see the danger she'd be in.

As for mod-meta... last ooba game I was in, I was Yvaine (Claire Danes) from Stardust, i.e. the protagonist/good/hot chick, but in the game, I was scum. So... you never know, eh? Basically, flavor != alignment.


P.S. LOL at Robbnva calling me black after I already called him black

[Rhinox]

Rhinox, based on Alpha's posts, do you think his targetting makes sense? Yes or no?

Not really, no.

does it matter? I dont believe the claim, but lets say you were telling the truth(about your role) or I believed the claim (role), this claim does change anything, meaning there is really no way to prove that it is a town role.

It matters for a couple reasons:

A) I believe I can support that I'm not lying by revealing who clare is.

B) If the role is allignment independent as you say, then whether or not you believe the role doesn't matter. So I'm just curious as to why your arguing from the standpoint that I'm lying rather than the standpoint that my role is allignment independent, given that I have claimed a result that is proveable.

also, about who you targetted, do you know if you targetted them to get the info?...meaning, we also have a claimed redirector.

I can't divine from Alpha's posts any particular reason why this person was targetted. What are you getting at about us having a claimed redirector?

[ReaperCharlie]

ckd was asking if you think you may have been redirected... i think?