It's Always Sunny Mafia! (OVER-The Gang Saves Paddy's Pub!)

[Exilon]

unvote: Fate

Yet you're not off the hook.

Hacker, why am I scum? Why should Fate die?
Meanwhile,

Vote: DTM

for reasons stated above.

Hey Snow White you're not dead today =D Are we still lynching Vezo?

[vezokpiraka]

You do not lynch me cause I confirmed I have only a one shot ability.
Exilon you are scum. Bad scum.

[DTMaster]

Time for some actual rereads.

1. I just realized a flaw in my plan with Fate. Scum would only kill Fate and end the game 2 cycles before lylo. Because of double night, scum can end the game early. Dram/Hacker has the right idea of ending this WIFOM early.

2. I don't like the speed of Chrono's death. It was terrible. Originally I thought the neighbour would be scum with Chrono based on the speed of it. But Hrez just soft claimed this. Then threw in a hard bread roll. Was opposed to the lynch. Textbook style. I'd investigate this though.

3. Offtopic: Irony is fun.

you mean a counter-wagon to yours?

Well of course, I'm your scumbuddy <_<

^Blatant admitted scum buddying to a townie noted >.>

ITT, Chrono has a better scumdar then the "townie" Miller Princess Fate.

Edit 2: Fate can't read Chrono. Chrono is inheritly scummy. The fact that you said that his town game is simillar to his scum game is serious back tracking in this post Exilon is horrible for putting the blame on Fate. Fate at least spearheaded the case and went through with it. I'd investigate Fate who inheritly lied (seriously, he just posted that he couldn't read Chrono) and shoot Exilion.

4. I put my vote here to get my vote on the table on Verzok. But I just realized that Fate/Hacker pointed out something powerful. Verzok multi-daykiller is controllable and is an awesome force. We have a strong Day Vig wagon. Except now that he proved he's one shot steam dropped from the Verzok wagon from it's most vocal players (see SP) and Dram died.

Edit: Actually the proven is still on hold. I reread page 10 and the VC hasn't been done.

5. Exilion: Reread Dram's role. He is an action manipulator. He probably did that instead of killing (if he has one). Question is who? Also see Edit 2 (above)

Finally some rested brain power.

Summary of case:

1. Shifts blame of Chrono's wagon despite being on it:

Aside: Chrono's lynch went through so it technically counts as 7. Reck is being a bad mod and kept it at 4. 3 people didn't lose their vote or else Reck seriously messed up.

Fate (2): HackerHuck

Chronopie (4)

: Raivann, Fate,

Exilon,

vezokpiraka, BloodCovenent, Snow White, SocioPath
HackerHuck (1): DTMaster, Hrezs
vezokpiraka (3): dramonic, Chronopie
dramonic (1): seth

2. Asks Hacker why Fate should die when he is pushing for a Fate case. Talk about horrible contradiction in motivation. If Exilion wants Fate to die, he wouldn't ask Hacker for why he should die. He should say: more Fate vote nao. Hacker already presented his reasoning for his D1 Fate case. Exilion is supposively pushing for a Fate scum case based on his failed meta read. Now he's back tracking.

Vote Exilion

Lynch Nao kthnks.

[Exilon]

OMGUS is awesome. Also you should read me with more attention.

2. Asks Hacker why Fate should die when he is pushing for a Fate case. Talk about horrible contradiction in motivation.

If Exilion wants Fate to die, he wouldn't ask Hacker for why he should die. He should say: more Fate vote nao.

Hacker already presented his reasoning for his D1 Fate case. Exilion is supposively pushing for a Fate scum case based on his failed meta read. Now he's back tracking

What I should do or should not do is not something you can say about me without having knowledge of my meta, which, quite frankly, not even I have. What's the problem with asking someone else about their motivations for a vote? Last time I checked, that was called scumhunting.

Let me break it down to you. You're egocentric, you're being selfish and most of all you're in a hurry. If you weren't you wouldn't have misspeled my name and crumpled your post with edits and off-topics. Your case seems a zero, and it followed my pressure vote on you. I didn't say I wanted Fate dead, btw. So thanks for misrepping that, too. The only thing that I backtracked was my vote on Fate. I would be asking for votes in case I beleieved my case was genuine. Problem is, THERE WAS NO CASE.

I reckon not having a main target right now is a bad thing, and I do sheerly apologize for not being able to get good reads from that stupid Day 1. (And this game all-in-all.) That's why I'm still putting pressure votes around and testing the waters. Apparently, I'm not the only one doing that.

[DTMaster]

1. Why are you questioning other's people motivations when you're starting with a Fate case/pressure. You don't ask people's motivations, you infer them from what they do. The fact that you asked for someone's motivations without presenting any of your own is scummy. Horrible, and isn't scum hunting. It looks like you're back tracking from your case, and using that point to attack someone else when you are guilty of it yourself.

If it's not an attack, it

makes someone build a case for you

. There's no work involved. That's not scum hunting. That's letting someone else do the scum hunting.

Why are you voting for Fate? You said you pressured him right? Day 1 and all? You should already have motivations to direct pressure that way. We already have lots of information from a speed wagon and people's reactions to it. Yours is horrible because you chose to pressure the guy who spearheaded the wagon.

When you pressure, you're saying that person looks scummy, lets find out more or I have no idea what my read on this person is. If you seriously don't have a read from Fate yet, then you are seriously, seriously, not reading the same posts.

Reread: What happened after Verzok killed and what Fate said

.

2. Also reread Hacker. Many questions are answered from that.

3. Way to bring insults to this. Also, nice shift from:

unvote: Fate
Yet you're not off the hook.

The only thing that I backtracked was my vote on Fate. I would be asking for votes in case I beleieved my case was genuine. Problem is, THERE WAS NO CASE.

Obviously you have something that ticked your radar when you go

IGMEOY FATE

. Less bolding, and not exactly the same exact words but same concept.

[Fate]

Move DTM to the town list and Exilon down to the Scum list, and Seth is my only maybe left!

[SocioPath]

Reading DTM's case, and not rereading exi, I can buy him as scum.

Vote: Exilon

[Fate]

Exilon and BC's wagons are equal now. One more vote either way is the one I'm stickin with. Both scum IMO

[Exilon]

You don't ask people's motivations, you infer them from what they do.

That leads to misunderstanding. Infering yourself and then asking is a way to compare results. Also I have an interest in Hacker in case you haven't noticed. Anyway, if I get to L1, do let me claim. I'm talking to you Socio. (and everyone else)

[SocioPath]

I don't quick hammer just anyone, silly.

I save that for useless fodder who will not benefit staying around regardless of role.
Then there was that whole part of me leading the wagon on him because he was scum and I wanted him dead.

[Exilon]

Except he was town and you didn't give him time to claim <<

Also shut up Vezo, you're way worse than I am.

[xRECKONERx]

Snow White (1): Hrezs
BloodCovenent (2): Raivann, Fate
SocioPath (1): seth
DTMaster (2): BloodCovenent, Exilon
Exilon (2): DTMaster, SocioPath

Not voting (3): vezokpiraka, HackerHuck, Snow White

[Hrezs]

DTM - I agree that exilon is scummy, my reasoning is different than yours.(I forget what it was, I'll reread him later)
What was your NK analysis? Seeing that NKs are blatant WIFOM usually

Unvote

Vote:Exilon

[seth]

unvote

vote: exilon

[Exilon]

Good. grief.
Reck, I'm about to go bananas on your game. Please don't be too mad.
I just kind of hate the players in this game.

So does that mean Seth has a post restriction?

In my defense, I've been reproducing Fate and Socio's behaviour for a while now. Yet, people vote me but don't vote them. Why?

[xRECKONERx]

Eh, you guys know my playing style. Freak outs and rants are acceptable to a certain extent.

[Exilon]

I'll be V/LA until the 16th. I'll still try to be around as much as possible.

I suggest strongly not lynching me before I have a chance to claim, if it gets to that point.

[Raivann]

I agree that Exilon is prob. scum. However, I know BloodCovenent visited Dramonic last night.

[Fate]

I agree that Exilon is prob. scum. However, I know BloodCovenent visited Dramonic last night.

THATS WHERE MY VOTE IS WHERE IT IS>

DAMN IT YOU DIDNT NEED TO CLAIM THAT.

[Fate]

In my defense, I've been reproducing Fate and Socio's behaviour for a while now. Yet, people vote me but don't vote them. Why?

Nothing's as good as the original. Fake someone elses playstyle, scum.

[Raivann]

I agree that Exilon is prob. scum. However, I know BloodCovenent visited Dramonic last night.

THATS WHERE MY VOTE IS WHERE IT IS>

DAMN IT YOU DIDNT NEED TO CLAIM THAT.

I seemed like the Exilon wagon wasn't slowing down anytime soon, I didn't know what else to say.

[SocioPath]

I agree that Exilon is prob. scum. However, I know BloodCovenent visited Dramonic last night.

I assumed something like this.
Up until I 180'd because of your fail quote.
Which was a random crap you quoted asking a question completely non-related.


FATE, CLAIMING WASNT A BIG DEAL AT THAT POINT.
A PLAYER GOES "WE ARE LYNCHING THIS GUY TODAY, NO EXCEPTIONS"
GUESS WHAT
IF THAT GUY IS LYNCHED
AND IS SCUM
ALL THE NONCLAIMING IN THE WORLD ISNT GOING TO SAVE HIS ASS.

Unvote
Vote: BC

[seth]

unvote

vote: bc

[xRECKONERx]

Snow White is being prodded.

[Hrezs]

unvote
vote: bc

he fufills my scum in the last3 votes requirement