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Xite91 Mafia Scum
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I lol'dConfidAnon wrote:
Rapid bandwagon time.Xite91 wrote:Unvote, Vote:CA
I'm curious what happens
Unvote, Vote: Andrew94
Unvote, Vote: ConfidAnon
Unvote, Vote: AGar
He annoys me.
But seriously, did you want to get a wagon on him based on another game?
Trying to add suspicion without actually saying anything...ConfidAnon wrote:
Awww . . .AGar wrote:Responding to the prod.
I noted in my sig I'd be V/LA, thought that'd be enough.\
Will catch up tonight at some point.
AtE?ConfidAnon wrote:
Where some would say "hatred," I'd say . . . friendly rivalry?AGar wrote:ConfidAnon apparently hates me. :/
I don't hate you. Take this emoticon as a peace offering.
<3
You, sir, are definitely scumShowBannedformonotony!
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ConfidAnon Mafia Scum
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Mysterio Goon
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This game is starting off really slow. To make things interesting, I'll go ahead and reveal that I am aMason. That's right, I get to talk behind your backs! So, watch what you say.
Unvote: Shotty
Vote: ConfidAnon
For bringing issues from other games into this one. If you find AGar annoying from another game, then keep it there. Bringing it here implies that he annoys you in this game as well.-
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Xite91 Mafia Scum
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You've used that joke before.ConfidAnon wrote:But the AGar wagon has leather seats.
This alone is reason for a vote
Mysterio is either a genious or scum. Masons,Mysterio wrote:This game is starting off really slow. To make things interesting, I'll go ahead and reveal that I am aMason. That's right, I get to talk behind your backs! So, watch what you say..don'tcounter-claim plox, if he's scum thats what he's trying to get you to do.ShowBannedformonotony!
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Xite91 Mafia Scum
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I hope he modkills younopointinactingup wrote:Vote:DramonicShowBannedformonotony!
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Mysterio Goon
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I'm tempted to vote for him for wasting my time.
And there will be no counterclaims, for I am indeed a Mason. However, that was an interesting reaction, Xite. Why do you feel the need to tell other Masons not to counterclaim? That seems self-evident, not to mention a Mason isn't exactly a game breaking role. Counterclaiming would be pointless. And yet you act as if it's a huge revelation. Why?-
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Xite91 Mafia Scum
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Because it's still a PR and still a better role for town than VT. Also, that was just what I saw in your postShowBannedformonotony!
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Mysterio Goon
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Xite91 Mafia Scum
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Bolded. Which is why I told them not to counter-claimMysterio wrote:And a better role to night kill...
Your reaction is what I would expect from scum who was just given a convenient target.
Unvote: ConfidAnon
Vote: Xite
And hey, it could be not self-evident.
How is my reaction what you would expect exactly? I mean, other than the attempt to not get PRs outted?ShowBannedformonotony!
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Mysterio Goon
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Think about how a PR claim looks to scum when they know for a fact that the player making the claim is town. And then think about how they would react. Now, go back and read your post. Do you see any similarities?
A genuine attempt to not have a PR role outed is certainly a possibility, but given the role I've claimed and how early in the game it is, it doesn't quite fit as nicely as you being scum.-
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Xite91 Mafia Scum
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How exactly would you say scum would react?Mysterio wrote:Think about how a PR claim looks to scum when they know for a fact that the player making the claim is town. And then think about how they would react. Now, go back and read your post. Do you see any similarities?
A genuine attempt to not have a PR role outed is certainly a possibility, but given the role I've claimed and how early in the game it is, it doesn't quite fit as nicely as you being scum.
I think scum would react in a way such as,
1) "Oh, he's lying, lynch him!!!" That way, if he is a PR then they have one less of them to deal with
2) Trying to get a counter-claim/confirmation that you are in fact said PR
1) I never tried to get you lynched because
a) I think you're town, just not a mason, trying to pull something I've actually done a few times before
b) If you were scum pushing for it, you would probably have waited to post again and then done so when there was enough suspicion on you that you could tell who the real masons were, then claim to be gambitting. Going after me for what I said makes me believe even more that you're town, just not a mason
2) I figure that if you ARE in fact scum, then your intention was to get a counter-claim, if that were the case then, like I said, you would have waited for one (see 1b). If I was scum, then I would try to get a counter-claim or confirmation from one of your other mason-buddies that you are in fact a mason, that way I would know who to NK tonight and tomorrow night. Thing is, though, that I would much rather NOT see our power roles killed off each night, hence my reaction.
So, now it's time for you to point out exactly how my reaction would seem scummyShowBannedformonotony!
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Mysterio Goon
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Here's my take on it:
A scum sees my claim, and knows that I am town. At this point in the game, it is in the best interest of scum to blend in. Making overtly scummy moves would obviously be bad play. What is the best way to blend in for scum who knows that I'm town? Make a fake attempt at stopping a counterclaim. At the same time, the scum would be thinking to themselves, "Easy N1 target." Unfortunately, that kind of thought can slip into the post without the person realizing it. You see, my goal in claiming was to try and catch someone slipping. I believe I have. Also, your reasoning doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If you truly thought someone would counterclaim me (so much so that you felt the need to tell people not to), then how much sense would it make for me to fake claim? Especially to fake claim as town, thereby opening myself up to be counterclaimed and possibly lynched/FOS'd even though I was town? That contradicts your initial reaction to my claim and reads like you're making it up as you go along.-
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Dividing this up point by point
1) Assuming you're town, which I am atm.Mysterio wrote:Here's my take on it:
1) A scum sees my claim, and knows that I am town.
2) At this point in the game, it is in the best interest of scum to blend in. Making overtly scummy moves would obviously be bad play.
3) What is the best way to blend in for scum who knows that I'm town? Make a fake attempt at stopping a counterclaim.
4) At the same time, the scum would be thinking to themselves, "Easy N1 target."Unfortunately, that kind of thought can slip into the post without the person realizing it. You see, my goal in claiming was to try and catch someone slipping. I believe I have.
5) Also, your reasoning doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
6) If you truly thought someone would counterclaim me (so much so that you felt the need to tell people not to), then how much sense would it make for me to fake claim?
7) Especially to fake claim as town, thereby opening myself up to be counterclaimed and possibly lynched/FOS'd even though I was town? That contradicts your initial reaction to my claim and reads like you're making it up as you go along.
2) Uhm, that's every point in the game IMO. Sometimes, making overtly scummy moves is a good play, if done right, but rarely do scum take that chance
3) Who said it was fake? Nice Misrep
4) Bolded. How's that unfortunate unless you're scum? Also, I'd like you to point out that "slip"
5) How?
6) If you claimed it was for a gambit, it would make sense. If you said they were lying, it would make sense. Of course this wouldn't get you past D2 in most cases, but with 2 kills per night, that's not a bad chance of winning still.
7) To fake claim as town? Now here's a slip we can talk about.
Anyways, since you're slipping away from looking townie to me, I'll give you what I thought you were doing if you were town, hence the "youre a genius" in my reaction
You claim mason
Theres a bit of discussion, a lot of which gives some good info during the day
If no one else claims, you get NK'd, giving town less of a chance of losing a PR
If others claim, there's still a chance of you getting NK'd, which is still less a chance of town losing a PR
Therefore, a successful gambitShowBannedformonotony!
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Votecount 2: What a Feeling!
Xite (1): Mysterio
drmyshottyizsik (2): a2rudeboy, andrew94
andrew94 (2): bv310, AGar
ConfidAnon (2): Xite, drmyshottyizsik
AGar (1): ConfidAnon
Not voting (4): nopointinactingup, smashbro_of_the_SSS, don_johnson, Kaiveran
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Xite91 Mafia Scum
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Waitasecond....Mysterio wrote:I'm tempted to vote for him for wasting my time.
And there will be no counterclaims, for I am indeed a Mason. However, that was an interesting reaction, Xite. Why do you feel the need to tell other Masons not to counterclaim? That seems self-evident, not to mention a Mason isn't exactly a game breaking role.Counterclaiming would be pointless.And yet you act as if it's a huge revelation. Why?
Why would counter claiming be pointless?ShowBannedformonotony!
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andrew94 Mafia Scum
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i see this as a huge attempt to distract attentionXite91 wrote:
Waitasecond....Mysterio wrote:I'm tempted to vote for him for wasting my time.
And there will be no counterclaims, for I am indeed a Mason. However, that was an interesting reaction, Xite. Why do you feel the need to tell other Masons not to counterclaim? That seems self-evident, not to mention a Mason isn't exactly a game breaking role.Counterclaiming would be pointless.And yet you act as if it's a huge revelation. Why?
Why would counter claiming be pointless?
rofl xite...i hate walls, i will only skim walls.
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