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Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:26 am

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I should probably comment on the balance of the scumteams. I think if you were to replay this game many times, it would turn out that Jabba's bounty ability would be more powerful than Palpatine's secret vote. Palpatine's vote only becomes powerful when it gets toward endgame, where a single vote can really make a big difference, and there's no guarantee he even survives that long. LMP played a great game so that he was able to survive that long and use it in the perfect situation, but it's hard to imagine that it would happen that often, especially if weaker players were to draw the Palpatine role. On the other hand, I envisioned Jabba using the bounty on players at night and then having his team make the kill to pick up the reward. Some of the rewards would be extremely useful in the hands of scum. The game just didn't happen to play out that way.

The one-shot bulletproof from the personal deflector shield was a passive ability, so a roleblocker would not have been able to negate it. I think redirector vs. roleblocker could go either way depending on the situation, but I'd give the edge to the redirector in general.

I thought interrogator (which is just a fancy name for VT-cop that I made up) was better than tracker for a scum role because it lets them find other scum and town PRs indiscriminately, whereas tracker would miss roles that had passive abilities or just did not happen to take an action on a particular night. The tracker gets the additional info of who a player targeted, but I think that is less useful than just finding whether they are a VT or not.
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Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:00 am

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ReaperCharlie wrote:Yeah I must say I was kind of disappointed with how little effect my ability actually had, especially compared to the Emperor's ability. I would have much rather had something like that.
Frankly, not to be a jerk or anything, but I think you used it poorly. I have no idea why you bountied Farside, and I really have no idea why you would bounty SoG with a 1-shot BP as the reward, when the likely place the town would lynch was SoG already. Did it not occur to you that the town would want to get the already proven cop the BP? Wouldn't it have been better to give him the empire scanner thing instead?
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Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:07 am

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- Yup. I actually thought the bounty prize was random and thats why it was the BP.

- Agree with Kdub:
Redirector > Roleblocker
Alliance cop > Tracker
Bounty is actually much more versatile since it can get your team an advantage if you have a single very pro-town looking player in your team. He\She can hammer and take the item. The secret vote is dependent on the player making it to the endgame.
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Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:32 am

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I'd take a tracker over the alliance cop, personally. Tracker can be used to claim your actual role, Alliance cop sounds really scummy (although I guess it could be spun as a town Power role cop, see karma mafia) but ehhh.

Bounty's probably better than Vote too, I'm happy with the vote, and wouldn't have nerfed it. I thought it worked really well.
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Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:16 pm

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@Faraday
How would you claim what you really were succesfully as a Tracker? Wreck Star couldn't manage that at all. We were given specific nameclaims, and Tracker didn't really fit into them. And at any rate, I don't think that's really enough to say tracker was better than an alliance cop.
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Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:32 pm

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Faraday wrote:Bounty's probably better than Vote too
I disagree. Bounty probably would have been cooler if it didn't immediately incite WIFOM about 'yep, that's probably a scum ability'... which made it basically useless except to town planners trying to get the item to a towny townie.
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Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:30 am

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Which is still more useful than a secret vote which is only really useful in one scenario.
How would you claim what you really were succesfully as a Tracker? Wreck Star couldn't manage that at all. We were given specific nameclaims, and Tracker didn't really fit into them. And at any rate, I don't think that's really enough to say tracker was better than an alliance cop.
Idr the safe claims admittedly but Wreck Star's problem was more being caught by a cop than anything else. It'd make a better claim late game, tracker that is, I think.
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Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:06 pm

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I called it, LMP was scum, I didn't think I was right for a moment, so HA!!
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