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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:55 am

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If you want some Empking meta, read POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA. He played just as scummy, but was town. I was very disappointed that he wasn't the last scum. I correctly picked out the other two, but we got owned by a SuperTownie scum (Parama). But he acted at least as scummy in that game as he's acting in this game. And as far as I'm aware, he does it in every game.

And even if he didn't have that meta, he'd still be a terrible lynch, because lynching him will tell us
NOTHING
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1. If you were town and thought SharkFinn was a scum redirector who was going to redirect our claimed cop, you'd be voting SharkFinn.
2. You aren't voting SharkFinn. You're voting Empking, who just happens to be the biggest wagon, but is also a TERRIBLE lynch candidate.
3. Ergo, I'm voting you.

THE GAUNTLET HAS BEEN THROWN.


Lynch Robbnva, pl0x.
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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:16 am

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I started the wagon on emp and I break the walls on your crappy gauntlet

go ahead and lynch me, when I flip town maybe that will help others figure things out about you and sf

and I'm not big on meta, cause I play the same way if I'm town or scum so sometimes it isn't helpful at all

emp lynch is wrong u say, but I don't trust you one bit

only thing preventing me from voting you is I don't OMGUS vote(or try not to anyway)

you sir have been useless all game and have still done NOTHING to help the town

u push lynches on cop and cleared player

if you beleive lmp is cop, you dont vote me

if you don't beleive lmp is cop, you would vote him

SEE, I can use your own logic right back at you big boy
Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:42 am

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Robbnva wrote:I started the wagon on emp and I break the walls on your crappy gauntlet
Nobody cares if you started a wagon on emp. And how can you break the walls of a gauntlet?
Robbnva wrote:go ahead and lynch me, when I flip town maybe that will help others figure things out about you and sf
Appeal to Emotion (go ahead and lynch me). Fantastic. Also, I'm not scum. And if you think SF is scum, why aren't you voting for him?
Robbnva wrote:and I'm not big on meta, cause I play the same way if I'm town or scum so sometimes it isn't helpful at all
That is immaterial. Meta, though sometimes deliberately confuddling, is extremely useful at times. Times like this.
Robbnva wrote:emp lynch is wrong u say, but I don't trust you one bit
This is also immaterial.
Robbnva wrote:only thing preventing me from voting you is I don't OMGUS vote(or try not to anyway)
If you think I'm scum, vote me. If you're not voting for who you think is scum, you're being an idiot.
Robbnva wrote:you sir have been useless all game and have still done NOTHING to help the town
I'm helping the town right now by getting you lynched, boy.
Robbnva wrote:u push lynches on cop and cleared player
Oh noes, boo hoo. Neither of them went through, did it? Now I'm pushing a lynch on flailscum.
Robbnva wrote:if you beleive lmp is cop, you dont vote me
I believe if LMP is a cop, that he was wrong about you.
Robbnva wrote:if you don't beleive lmp is cop, you would vote him
Or I would vote you first because you are more obvscum right now, and people still have town reads on LMP.
Robbnva wrote:SEE, I can use your own logic right back at you big boy
The only problem is, my logic makes sense, and yours doesn't.
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:52 am

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ReaperCharlie wrote:If you want some Empking meta, read POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA. He played just as scummy, but was town. I was very disappointed that he wasn't the last scum. I correctly picked out the other two, but we got owned by a SuperTownie scum (Parama). But he acted at least as scummy in that game as he's acting in this game. And as far as I'm aware, he does it in every game.

And even if he didn't have that meta, he'd still be a terrible lynch, because lynching him will tell us
NOTHING
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1. If you were town and thought SharkFinn was a scum redirector who was going to redirect our claimed cop, you'd be voting SharkFinn.
2. You aren't voting SharkFinn. You're voting Empking, who just happens to be the biggest wagon, but is also a TERRIBLE lynch candidate.
3. Ergo, I'm voting you.

THE GAUNTLET HAS BEEN THROWN.


Lynch Robbnva, pl0x.
First of all, if you're going to try to lynch Robbnva, why not lynch LMP first? He claimed his investigation said Robbnva is town. So if you think Robbnva is scum, you think LMP is very very likely scum (as ckd, I think, said having insanity issues with our cop while scum had such PRs already seems like overkill) too. The only difference is that LMP is very probably a PR (even if you don't believe he's a cop). Why wouldn't you lynch the scum PR first if you're so sure about Robbnva?

Interesting meta. I'm never sure what to think about stuff like that though. Being scummy in every game just means that when they're actually scum, they have the perfect meta excuse for looking scummy. I don't put that much stock into meta when it's about VIs/SIs.

You keep saying that lynching Emp will tell us nothing, but whose lynch do you suggest will tell us something? Robbnva's (probable townie's) lynch will tell us LMP's likely alignment (though not confirmed since if Robbnva flips scum he could still claim insanity or SF lied about who he redirected to or something). So in the end that would tell us nothing concrete. Besides, if LMP was telling the truth and Robbnva's flip was town, LMP would be the likely NK target and if not stopped, we'd be out a cop and a confirmed townie. Also Emp's lynch, like potentially anyone else's, might tell us something really important: that we have killed another scum and are one step closer to a win. So I don't buy that "telling us nothing" excuse.

It does intrigue me though that this is how you are playing (defending scumminess and attacking probable town) when you become active.
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:07 am

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1. Never lynch a claimed cop right away. That's one of the hardest fakeclaims to fake, given that you have to provide results every night from then on. If scum NK him, oh well, at least we won't have wasted a lynch.

2. Robbnva is probtown? :?

3. Do you honestly think that I would come into the game and get 'active' all of a sudden just to defend a scumbuddy (empking?). What, you think I'm stupid?

4. If Empking flips town, what then? Am I confirmed town to you then? Or do you think I'm just hopping in as scum to defend him because I know he'll flip town, which would make me look townier? Why wouldn't I just quicklynch him instead? WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM.

Point is, I'm active now, and I'm saying that Robbnva gets the rope.
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:09 am

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Your logic is wrong cause I am 100% town

your responses and acusations are just as Immaterial as u claim mine are

my vote is on my number 1 prime suspect right now so I am voting for who I think is scum

I'm not switching my vote cause the village idiot says I should

also lol at if lmp us cop, he is wrong about me. He said he was redirected to me and got town, if he is wrong than mod is giving him bad info and p.sure this isn't a bastard mod game, and he isn't wrong cause I am 100% town

doesn't matter anyway cause you don't beleive any claim, no matter who makes it
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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:15 am

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ReaperCharlie wrote:1. Never lynch a claimed cop right away. That's one of the hardest fakeclaims to fake, given that you have to provide results every night from then on. If scum NK him, oh well, at least we won't have wasted a lynch.

2. Robbnva is probtown? :?

3. Do you honestly think that I would come into the game and get 'active' all of a sudden just to defend a scumbuddy (empking?). What, you think I'm stupid?

4. If Empking flips town, what then? Am I confirmed town to you then? Or do you think I'm just hopping in as scum to defend him because I know he'll flip town, which would make me look townier? Why wouldn't I just quicklynch him instead? WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM.

Point is, I'm active now, and I'm saying that Robbnva gets the rope.
wow who knew god played mafia :roll:

people make up your own mind, don't follow rc into the valley of death unless you are 100% sure he is a gg

btw rc, I beleive if emp turns up pro town, that would give you good street cred, people would NEVER suspect you as being scum, if you are SO sure emp is clear, than that makes you the scum

you can throw me under the bus all you want but just remember WHEN (no if about it) I flip town, your going to be the target of the town's noose
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:24 am

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Robbnva wrote:Your logic is wrong cause I am 100% town
Well, I must say, that's convincing. [/sarcasm]
Robbnva wrote:your responses and acusations are just as Immaterial as u claim mine are
Do you even know what immaterial
means?

Robbnva wrote:my vote is on my number 1 prime suspect right now so I am voting for who I think is scum
Do you think SharkFinn is a scum redirector? If so, you should be voting for him instead of Empking. Do I really need to explain why?
Robbnva wrote:I'm not switching my vote cause the village idiot says I should
Are
you
literally calling
me
a VI? Seriously?
Robbnva wrote:also lol at if lmp us cop, he is wrong about me. He said he was redirected to me and got town, if he is wrong than mod is giving him bad info and p.sure this isn't a bastard mod game, and he isn't wrong cause I am 100% town
If he's wrong, then maybe he was REDIRECTED. Which SharkFinn claimed to have done. What about that is so hard for you to understand?
Robbnva wrote:doesn't matter anyway cause you don't beleive any claim, no matter who makes it
With the possibility of multiple scum factions, I'm sure there are all kinds of shenanigans going on.





But the one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is that your WORDS and your ACTIONS do not match up.
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:33 am

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Day 3 Analysis (long overdue)
Sorry about the wall, but it's a catchup.
(+ town, − scum, ± null, ? WTF)

Overall: −All: Sadly, a majority of posts here have been jokes or accusations without reasoning. Entire stings of votes are entirely pointless. Almost the entire game is active lurking, and there really isn't anyone that's pro-town of note.

659: SF: He'll claim his actions today, but doesn't want scum to set up a claim
664: ?But there's no concrete information?
666: −RC: The RVS ended days ago. Literally.
670: And please stop saying you'll reread if it's never going to happen.
672: RC: Please don't answer people's questions for them.

676: ±digi: That is lots of useless WIFOM, and nobody fell for the trap of continuing with it.
678: ±Empking: What's so horrible in his first post? Explain!
682: ±Mafuyu raises a decent point, but why is Mafuyu trying to defend someone else, especially when Mafuyu's play hasn't been great?
688: ±LMP: Why are you trying to give excuses for the play and buddy up to the first person that said you have a semblance of town?
689: −RC: Pot. Kettle. Black.
693: −LMP: Why are you trying to defend against everything, no matter how minor?
696: −Robbnva: Stop backtracking. You have a reason for thinking that LMP is scum, don't change to suit public opinion to try to stay unnoticed.

702: −Robbnva: Still little reasoning. Give explanations for why you're voting or suspicious.
707: −Robbnva: You have had little content yourself that is actually helpful, so just voting someone day 3 because they've "lurked a ton, posted random nonsense" is not a good reason.
719: +SF: Finally gives us information that we can use to analyze and hunt.

731: −Robbnva: "I haven't done anything that scummy, I have basically voted for the people on my scum list"... maybe if you gave actual concrete reasons and kept your opinion for more than one post people would find you less scummy?
732: −SF: "I didn't like his play" is not good reasoning.
734: ±Empking: He already claimed his targets. What else do you want? Stop fishing. Also, if that's a crumb, it's a rather horrendous one.
740: −Robbnva: Stop buddying to LMP. Let them ask questions to people without trying to jump in everytime you see your name.
741: +Robbnva: Actual reasons for a vote. Congratulations. Crap reasoning that seems like you were just clawing for reasons, but still reasoning nonetheless.
745: +CKD: Good defense, though quad posts are a little excessive.

753: −Robbnva: "yes I voted for Lps, but the diffeence is I was not pushing for a bandwagon or asking to start a new one the next day" That's the point of voting. You think they're scum, you want them lynched, you give information, you vote, people discuss. That's mafia. Also, this entire post is pretty much craplogic.
767: −Robbnva: Following again, waiting until someone else votes so you can hide in the crowd
771/774/776/778: −Robbnva: "Also if you really think scum would be this obvious, clearly you are not a very good mafia player" NO. NO NO NO NO NO. NO. That is complete and utter craplogic. WIFOM does not help. At all.

788: RC: See 670. Please stop saying you'll reread if it's never going to happen.
791: −Mafuyu: Wow. Defensive much? Nice OMGUS.
793: −KageLord: With how scummy everyone in this game is acting, a policy lynch is not a good idea. It reads as if you can't be bothered scumhunting so you just lynch the person that's been obvlurking all game.
799: Robbnva: That's because the observation was craplogic. Also, don't start the third person thing.

801: −Mafuyu: WARNING. SCUM. This vote absolutely reeks. This is Mafuyu's second vote the entire game, and just like all of Mafuyu's other posts, there is no reasoning behind it, just bandwagon jumping.
824: Crypto: I think "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." is a more useful Hitchens quote for this game. Welcome.

838: ±RC: Thank you for active lurking. The game's much better because of it. /sarcasm
841: −Mafuyu:
WARNING. SCUM.
This vote absolutely reeks. The second someone tries voting for someone other than you, you jump? You have never had ANY suspicion whatsoever, yet that's enough to L-1.
846: −Mafuyu: And you even admit it.
849: −Mafuyu: So you just keep doing it instead of starting to actually contribute?
850: LMP claims an alignment cop. Up in the air about it. Pretty neutral on LMP overall. Saying you've only found town (and all dead except one) is very safe, since nobody will counterclaim town.

869/870: +CKD: Useful catch on LMP. The calling out a player you knew is town is bad form unless you aren't. Also, don't investigate town unless your sanity is questioned.
872: −SF: Nice complete 180 from 860 with no additional information.
873: −Robbnva: Buddying much? There doesn't have to be a counterclaim for a claim to be fake.

884: −Robbnva: The buddying continues. I point you to 873 to counter "I was the biggest one on his bandwagon".
886: ±Some semblance of an actual case. Yet again, though, Pot. Kettle. Black.
893-896: ?CKD: Odd. I can't really intepret what was going on in your head.

926: Robbnva: Regarding the whole Wilson thing: It's not funny. I'm not sure what you're trying to do with it. PLEASE STOP. NOW.
927: −Robbnva: Back to that same craplogic. "so not helping the town is anti-town"... you mean with so many other people acting so much scummier, you're pretty much throwing down a null vote?
935: How is sanity even coming into question? He investigated people that have DIED and FLIPPED.
937: ±RC: 1 and 2 are correct. 3 and 4 not so much.
948: −Another crap vote from Mafuyu. Surprise.

951: ±LMP: "If you are apathetic you'd be doing us all a huge favor to just replace out. I've tried answering every question everyone has asked and I've been nothing but completely honest and above-board. I honestly don't know what else you want from me." Overly defensive, but could also be annoyed town. Also, why are you even questioning the sanity issue? See 935.
967: +Wow, an actual useful question from RC.
972: −Robbnva: Nice way to give yourself an out when SF eventually flips.
974: −Robbnva: So now you ADMIT that you were bandwagon jumping, but then try to say you've changed?
976: −Robbnva: Complete and utter craplogic. Especially points 2, 5, 8 and 9.
980/981: −Robbnva: Your play hasn't shown you're town. Also, more craplogic. RC isn't helping though, egging him on.

tl;dr:

People that aren't even reading the f'ing game:
Robbnva
Empking
RC (surprise)

Excessive defenses:
Robbnva
LMP
CKD
Mafuyu

Possibly town until proven otherwise:
CKD

Questionable (why are the PRs acting so scummy? They can't ALL be scum):
SF
LMP

Scum until proven otherwise:
Mafuyu
Robbnva

VOTE: Mafuyu

Not really seeing anything on Empking, and Mafuyu is far scummier than LMP.
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:41 am

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ReaperCharlie wrote:1. Never lynch a claimed cop right away. That's one of the hardest fakeclaims to fake, given that you have to provide results every night from then on. If scum NK him, oh well, at least we won't have wasted a lynch.

2. Robbnva is probtown? :?

3. Do you honestly think that I would come into the game and get 'active' all of a sudden just to defend a scumbuddy (empking?). What, you think I'm stupid?

4. If Empking flips town, what then? Am I confirmed town to you then? Or do you think I'm just hopping in as scum to defend him because I know he'll flip town, which would make me look townier? Why wouldn't I just quicklynch him instead? WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM.

Point is, I'm active now, and I'm saying that Robbnva gets the rope.
1. I generally agree. But because of that, I also tend to believe his investigations (i.e. Robbnva town) for at least 1 day.

2. He's very probtown if you believe LMP's claim. If you don't believe it... I'd say he's kind of in limbo.

3. No, I don't think you're stupid. But I am automatically suspicious of stuff like that. There's a possibility that you are coming in to defend a scumbuddy because you think he is likely to get lynched, leaving you, who was just active lurking until now. That would put scum in a really bad position, so I wouldn't be surprised if even smartscum put their neck on the line a bit and tried to defend their remaining buddy. Anyway, that's just a possibility.

4. I wouldn't say it makes you town, but a bit less suspicious. On the other hand, if he flips scum, you become a whole lot more suspicious. Unfortunately, it's kind of unbalanced against you.
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:47 am

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ckd. why not a Robbnva lynch.
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:51 am

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Rc, lmp said he investigated someone else and was directed to me

sf said he redirected lmp to me

get it vi?
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:52 am

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I'm not voting sf cause u are telling me to

AND

I am not sure if I think sf is scum

thanks for playing vi
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:26 am

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Robbnva: Defensive much? And what's with all the constant calling of VI?
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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:28 am

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I'm a doctor, not a Time-traveler!

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Mafuyu (1)
- diginova
ReaperCharlie (1)
- KageLord
curiouskarmadog (0)

Robbnva (2 )
- Mafuyu, ReaperuoCharlie
SharkFinn (0)

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- crypto
LynchMePls (2)
- SharkFinn, Empking
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- curiouskarmadog, LynchMePls, Robbnva
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With 10 alive, its 6 to lynch!



Deadline less than 21 hours away!
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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:34 am

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Yikes. Deadline approaching. With that in mind, I guess I have to pick a wagon. Considering I believe LMP's claim, the choice is kind of obvious.

Vote: Empking
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:53 am

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Unvote

Vote: Rob


I'm claiming The Time Traveller from The Time Machine. VT but hopefully a good name.
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:52 am

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Well since I'm not gonna be on for a while, I'm the other potential bandwagon, AND deadline is approaching I don't care if I go all in

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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:00 am

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vote RC


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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:05 am

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Um. Check your role PM again. Are you sure that's what you want to claim? Cause I don't exactly believe it as is.

Empking, what do you mean by "VT but hopefully a good name"?
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:09 am

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@Rob: What is your opinion of the odds that you will be able to not only form a wagon on RC, but get him lynched before deadline? Keep in mind that your latest posts have devolved in to ad hominems, AtE, and excessive emotions laced occasionally with an argument.

In addition, is your role name exactly as you have claimed it?
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:54 am

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Mafuyu, please answer my question in 923.
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:58 am

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ReaperCharlie wrote:Um. Check your role PM again. Are you sure that's what you want to claim? Cause I don't exactly believe it as is.

Empking, what do you mean by "VT but hopefully a good name"?
was that first part directed at me?

If so I did my best to summarize my role pm cause usually posting info from PMs are a no no

there is a part that says there must be a pro town person alive with me or something like that

but other than that, yeah that is what I received from the mod

@may - I don't care what others do, I see 3 semi wagons. Myself, emp, and lmp

the time traveler guy is a gg, unless going back in time to meet old people and have dinner with them is scummy

I'm a good guy, John Connor was a good guy

lmp is claimed cop

I don't vote just to lynch the best wagon, I vote with who I think is scum

rc pushing me and not beleiving cop claim but refuse to vote for him is the EXACT thing he was criticizing me for

he said if I don't beleive sf is good why am I not voting him

he is a hypocrite

clearly he thinks we all are poor players and started to take it serious when that new guy replaced in for idoubt it (think that is who got replaced)

the fact he felt no need to participate until that point is yet another notch in my mind on the scum tally

if I'm wrong, don't vote for him. I don't give a rats ass about a deadline even if my vote at the final hour would create a lynch, if it was for the wrong person I would not switch it.

So stop hinding behind your 3rd person talk and formulate your own damn opinion
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:19 pm

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diginova wrote:Robbnva: Defensive much? And what's with all the constant calling of VI?
He got his feelings hurt when he went to the wiki and read the definition for VI, and realized that I was calling him an idiot. :P





But now that we KNOW Robbnva is a VI for sure, that switches things around considerably. He's now probtown.

I agree that Empking is scummy, and I will lynch him if there aren't any other choices... but then again...

@Mafuyu: you should probably claim too, while we're at it. I am perfectly happy with a lynch on either of you.
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:38 pm

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Oh god RC, you really are full of yourself aren't you

nobody bow down to this guy

u want people to claim so bad, claim yourself big boy

right now u pushed for cop lynch and his clear, you should be o. The hot seat more than anyone else.
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