Newbie 999 - Game Over

[zipperflesh]

Vote: Bogart

Here's looking at you.

[HumphreyBogart]

Wait are we voting yet? Confused about confirmation...

[Kison]

CommieX replaces OMG iiTz Yoshii.

oneequalstwo replaces CalibrA.

It is now Day One.

With

9

alive, it will take

5

votes to lynch.

[boberz]

Yay we have started. Will post tomorrow.

[oneequalstwo]

I should totally Confirm, shouldn't I?

1) Are you having fun yet?

Allergies are currently annoying me, so no...

2) Chocolate or vanilla?

Ginger, but I'll choose vanilla if there's blackberry involved.

3) How many Mafia games have you played (here or elsewhere)?

5 games on a website elsewhere, many more IRL

4) Lynch all Liars?

Usually, but not always.

5) Math or Sports?

Math, both if the sport is biking or frisbee

6) Lynch all Lurkers?
If Lurking means not posting at all:

Unless we have leads and they aren't being replaced quickly, sure. Considering the nature of this site, though, they will probably be replaced quickly

If Lurking means not posting for a bit and then saying "I don't have that much to say":

That adds to a case against him. Let's find more stuff before we lynch him.

7) What do

you

think of the RVS?

Ambivalence, I have never actually utilized the results from RVS, so this is the first game that I'll try to.

Vote: HB

for bein' so cocky.

Should I leave vote-counts to the mod? I'm used to making them on the other website I play on.

[oneequalstwo]

oh shoot I did not see zipper's vote on HB.

Unvote, vote zipper

for only saying the second half of HB's name in his vote.

[RedCoyote]

oh shoot I did not see zipper's vote on HB.

Unvote, vote zipper

for only saying the second half of HB's name in his vote.

Why did this make you change your mind?

[oneequalstwo]

Oops I miscalculated; I thought that 2 votes on one person was too many in RVS in a game of 9 people. Silly me

[zipperflesh]

oh shoot I did not see zipper's vote on HB.

Unvote, vote zipper

for only saying the second half of HB's name in his vote.

Unvote. Vote: 1=2

OMGUS & for only saying the first part of my name.

[CommieX]

/Confirm.

And now onto this nifty questionnaire...

1) Are you having fun yet?

I'm currently doing this instead of my summer history assignment so I'll say yes

2) Chocolate or vanilla?

As far as Ice cream goes, Vanilla all the way

3) How many Mafia games have you played (here or elsewhere)?

Too many to count. I used to play live sessions with friends until that kinda stopped happening, and I currently play quick-paced, chatroom based games on another site.

4) Lynch all Liars?

Policy lynches make commie sad

5) Math or Sports?

Sports, though it depends on the sport I suppose...

6) Lynch all Lurkers?

See #4, although this one I'm more likely to get behind if it's super excessive and they're not contributing.

7) What do you think of the RVS?

It makes me giggle. And by that I mean if it helps get stuff started, then I'm all for it. But whatever works, works.

[chesskid3]

So I haz internet after all (wifi poaching ftw).
Apparently we're doing RVS now, meh. I'm still not going to throw down any votes while internet access is not guaranteed (Sunday afternoon it will be)
However it is nice to see that I am no longer the only person in this game against LaL.

[CommieX]

vote chess

Chess in what situation do you intednt to lie to us?

That's quite a leap there, isn't it?

Ok I am going to assume you are town for a moment and assume that last point doesnt belong to you.

I am going to request that you do not lie in any of those situations you have just described because it will just get you into deep doodoo. I play a lot of face to face mafia and liars in those situations are inadvisable. In a newbie game on this site I cannot conceive of a reason to lie. (IC back me up please if I am right of course)

Meanwhile your willing to lie warrants a serious vote at this stage. So I suggest we wagon chess!!!

The problem I have with this post is that the question being asked seemed to be more about Lynch all Liars in general, whereas you turned it into Lynch all Liars in a newbie game. There may not be a reason to lie in the setting of a newbie game. That doesn't mean there isn't a reason to ever lie in mafia as town.

I'm gonna go ahead and throw out a srs bizness

Vote: Boberz

[boberz]

Commie, the questions clearly have to be relevant to this game and for pregame I consider the notion that some may consider lying to me more than enough for a vote.
You fail to address why my view of the liars is actually scummy.

Meanwhile I suggest we wagon some, prefferably chess

vote chess

will have more to say tomorrow no doubt.

[boberz]

This is my first game, but I can already tell I'm better than all of you.

Explain.

[HumphreyBogart]

This is my first game, but I can already tell I'm better than all of you.

Explain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fWvub_WBho

[parknourie]

Zipperfish is very witty in his words. I will update later

[RedCoyote]

Oops I miscalculated; I thought that 2 votes on one person was too many in RVS in a game of 9 people. Silly me

Hmmm, you seem a little overly concerned about how you and your vote looks, but I honestly get a sincere vibe from you. I'll back off.

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However it is nice to see that I am no longer the only person in this game against LaL.

The thing about LaL (Lynch all Liars) is that it's an absolute rule. It's good practice to lynch anyone you catch lying, but unfortunately it won't always work out. I don't think I hold onto any maxim like that when playing mafia, if only because I don't want to feel as though I'm forced to do something that doesn't sit right with me. I've been in a game where I had a power role actually claim to be a VT (Vanilla Townie). She was a replacement and hadn't realized the person she replaced had already claimed his role. The mafia ate it up and got the town all fired up about LaL, and, of course, we were in a LyLo (Lynch or Lose) situation.

So, in essence, it's a good principle to be very suspicious of townies that lie, but I would be hesistant to

always

lynch them.

I'll

vote: Pandabeer

for having a cooler name than me.

[CommieX]

Commie, the questions clearly have to be relevant to this game

Explain how question one is directly related to the game. Go on.

I suppose it's open to interpretation, but seeing as how the question was not "What is your opinion of LAL in this game", I see nothing wrong with saying that I don't believe in LAL.

and for pregame I consider the notion that some may consider lying to me more than enough for a vote.

Perhaps for pregame, but I still think it's a

massive

stretch to go from "I don't think policy lynching liars is a good idea" to "I'm going to lie to you"

You fail to address why my view of the liars is actually scummy.

I don't think I understand, are you calling myself or chess scummy?

Meanwhile I suggest we wagon some, prefferably chess

vote chess

will have more to say tomorrow no doubt.

Why? What are you hoping to get out of him from a wagon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fWvub_WBho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk (somewhat NSFW)

Anyway, I like my vote for right now. One more thing, just thought I'd let you all know that school starts for me tomorrow, so there might be days where I just don't have time to get on MS due to my class schedule and extracurricular stuff. I will try to inform you if I'll be gone for 3 days or more.

[parknourie]

Vote: Bogart

@Bogart: This is indeed your first game in this site?
Then How are you better than all of us? could you post some more?

@Everyone else: Bogart only posted a handful of posts and he avoids anything serious to talk about. This is very scummy and I think he is only doing this to avoid showing his thoughts.

[boberz]

FOS: Parknourie for essentially accusing Bogart of lurking after one proper post. A bit strange.

I see nothing wrong with saying that I don't believe in LAL.

That is not what I said, go and read again. I also dont believe in LAL.

Explain how question one is directly related to the game. Go on

It is making sure ll the new players remember it is a game. It is a newbie game, this is arguably the most directly related question of them all, he would not have asked that in a large theme game for example.

don't think I understand, are you calling myself or chess scummy?

Neither,I was suggesting thaat you had failed to explain why I was scummy, but thrown a fair bit of mud at me.

@allrandomvoters!!! why have you random voted???

We need some wagons. I say chess, I think he still plans to lie to us! He also managed to disguise an OMGUS reaction in an alledged random vote. He of all people shouldnt be random voting. Unvotes this early demonstrate people who are scared of being caught out. Easilly the best candidate so far.

Parknourie needs to improve massively.

I need to analyse the RQS, tomorrow I suspect.


RedCoyote, why present a case on someone (1=2) then random vote???

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Conclusion,

Commie needs to reread, he has completely misunderstood what is going on.
Random voters need to get off their backsides and do something.

[chesskid3]

I'm back home. I wish I could say that I won't be V/LA again during this game, but Sep 4th-11th I may or may not have internet access (I am doing community action at Princeton, and don't know where I'll be staying). Hopefully I will.

I don't seem to have missed much at all, which is good...a few comments.
1) @ Boberz: Either 4 or 5 people in this game have said no to the policy LaL, and while reasons may/may not be different for saying no, I think that the general consensus is that LaL is a bad idea because someone lying does not imply that they are necessarily scum [opinions differ on whether town should ever lie, I guess. I still think it depends on the situation]. Sure, it's suspicious, and they had better have a good reason for any lies, but it shouldn't be a policy lynch with no discussion.
Further, not agreeing to LaL does not imply that someone is going to lie (I think CommieX pointed this out above as well)
2) @ Mod: Can we get a votecount?
3) @Everyone: What times in EST (or GMT - X) are good for you to be online? There doesn't seem to be much activity here.

So far I would say Bogart,Pandabeer,parknourie,oneequalstwo should try to be a bit more active.

[chesskid3]

EBWOP Boberz had not posted when I posted this.

@ Boberz: I unvoted because I wasn't sure of internet access. I suppose my vote was a bit of an OMGUS, not sure why that means anything though.

[HumphreyBogart]

oh shoot I did not see zipper's vote on HB.

Unvote, vote zipper

for only saying the second half of HB's name in his vote.

I'm voting

oneequalstwo

His vote change is the only thing I see that is remotely suspicious.

[chesskid3]

Bogart, how come you still haven't explained your "better than all of you" comment?

[HumphreyBogart]

Did you see the video I posted? That about sums it up.