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AGar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Really? That's all you have to say?Zajnet wrote:I think we should just lynch quadz and go from there. If we lose because Mitsuru is manipulative scum, gg.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
Get to know me. Or don't. I won't tell you what to do. I'm not God. Or your father. Or your boss.-
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MafiaSSK Jack of All Trades
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Mitsuru Kirijo Goon
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Zajnet Mafia Scum
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Yeah pretty much.AGar wrote:
Really? That's all you have to say?Zajnet wrote:I think we should just lynch quadz and go from there. If we lose because Mitsuru is manipulative scum, gg.
@Mitsuru/gandalf: :sadpanda:My GTKAS
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MafiaSSK Jack of All Trades
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Haschel Cedricson Mr. Know It All
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AGar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Uh... fuck off?Haschel Cedricson wrote:Evenin', all.
I'm reading the thread now, but I would like Zajnet and AGar to post a quick summary of the major events in this game for me, preferably from memory.
Read the thread yourself?
Sorry, I ain't posting a recap for you. The thread isn't even 20 pages long, and half of the posts are "Oh hey, I'll get here soon."
If I can read up on a 94 page large normal in full, you can spare 17.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
Get to know me. Or don't. I won't tell you what to do. I'm not God. Or your father. Or your boss.-
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quadz08 Jack of All Trades
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AGar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Summary of major events =/= viewpoints.quadz08 wrote:Hey, I'm AGar, and I clearly don't recognize an attempt to get viewpoints from certain players.
Suspicions, reads and the like are viewpoints. He will find them when he reads up.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
Get to know me. Or don't. I won't tell you what to do. I'm not God. Or your father. Or your boss.-
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Haschel Cedricson Mr. Know It All
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Ah, but list of events that YOU consider major, and the events that YOU decide are not major enough to focus on is a good starting point.AGar wrote:
Summary of major events =/= viewpoints.quadz08 wrote:Hey, I'm AGar, and I clearly don't recognize an attempt to get viewpoints from certain players.
Suspicions, reads and the like are viewpoints. He will find them when he reads up.
I'm collating some thoughts now.-
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Haschel Cedricson Mr. Know It All
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Anyhoo, I can confirm what MK said; I am indeed a roleblocker, and those were indeed my targets. If I'm understanding this set-up correctly, there aren't any protective roles left. So, we have one scum found in quadz.
Who is his partner? During my initial read I found the case on Zajnet to be compelling, and I found myself agreeing with the reasons TNM gave in post 312. However, quadz' quote here throws me off:
Quadz isn't in any danger here; I don't see why he would need to bus his partner. Instead this just comes across as an attempt to set up a mislynch. Therefore, Zaj is town.I'm good to hammer gandalf, with the prerequisite that we go after Zaj hardcore tomorrow if Gandalf flips town.
Next I'll be looking at AGar. For now, though, lunch.-
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quadz08 Jack of All Trades
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Wait, what? Are you trying to base my alignment on how many protective roles have flipped/claimed? This is random mafia, meaning that the roles are, in fact, COMPLETELY RANDOM, in case you missed that statement about a half dozen times in the 17 pages of this game. That statement makes no sense.Anyhoo, I can confirm what MK said; I am indeed a roleblocker, and those were indeed my targets. If I'm understanding this set-up correctly, there aren't any protective roles left. So, we have one scum found in quadz.Current Avatar: Kronk. Duh.-
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Haschel Cedricson Mr. Know It All
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Here are the claims as they stand:quadz08 wrote:
Wait, what? Are you trying to base my alignment on how many protective roles have flipped/claimed? This is random mafia, meaning that the roles are, in fact, COMPLETELY RANDOM, in case you missed that statement about a half dozen times in the 17 pages of this game. That statement makes no sense.Anyhoo, I can confirm what MK said; I am indeed a roleblocker, and those were indeed my targets. If I'm understanding this set-up correctly, there aren't any protective roles left. So, we have one scum found in quadz.
AGar: Paranoid Gun Owner
Zajnet: Tracker
quadz08: Bus Driver
Haschel CedricsonMitsuru Kirijo: Roleblocker
totallynotmafia: Vanilla Townie
millar13: Mason
I (well, MK) blocked you last night, and none of the the other roles would prevent a nightkill. So when I say "there aren't any protective roles left", I'm not making some random guess on the state of the game; I'm compiling what six other people have said at separate times. Sure, maybe there's yet another doctor or something and they chose to lie about it during the claim. If that's the case, though, I imagine they'll say something before we lynch you.
Until then, your crazy (deliberate?) misunderstanding of what I was saying doesn't exactly help.-
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AGar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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#415 is flailing scum. Let's lynch him, eh guys?Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
Get to know me. Or don't. I won't tell you what to do. I'm not God. Or your father. Or your boss.-
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quadz08 Jack of All Trades
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Oh. Gotcha. That was a misunderstanding; I missed the point you were trying to make.
And once again, shitty circumstances come to bite me. I am the town bus driver, as I've said before, and I have not used my ability on any night. There is no viable method of defense against this particular accusation; it does seem rather damning, I'll admit. However, here's a thought: what if Mitsuru/Haschel is a scum RB, who blocked me and didn't kill on purpose, knowing that it would cause a near-certain lynch, winning the game for scum (assuming we're in 4:2)?
I will further investigate this possiblity, as well as look into possible buddies and the scumminess of AGar and Zajnet.Current Avatar: Kronk. Duh.-
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Zajnet Mafia Scum
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totallynotmafia Goon
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Alright, well now I'm pretty much convinced Zaj is scum. I just can't imagine a town player putting a vote on someone with such a poor reason like that in mylo. MK/HC's explanation for the lack of NK makes sense, so I'm thinking the remaining scum may be Zaj and quadz.
Zaj and quadz have maintained a level of suspicion on each other throughout the game, but they've always managed to avoid voting each other when it counts.
Zajnet suspicious of quadz but not willing to vote him yet:
Zaj does put quadz at L-1 in post 204, but only a few posts down:Zajnet wrote:#142 definitely pings my scumdar, more so than quadz has yet. I support the wagon, but I won't vote for him until I hear the claim.
Bolded is mine. Pretty sure you can have no worries about scum hammering when you're voting for your scumbuddy.Zajnet wrote:UNVOTE: quadz
I wasn't worried about scum (or anyone else for that matter) quickhammering, and I wanted to garner reactions, specifically from vezok. I don't believe quadz is scum, but if y'all want to lynch him because of his claim, be my guest. I have reason to believe that vezok really is vanilla, but the way he's been acting is really scummy, so he could be a goon. I'll support his lynch, simply because he's either VT or scum, and in that case, he's the least damaging mislynch we could make, if its a mislynch.
VOTE: vezok
Just before that Quadz voted for vez too:
He casts his suspicion on Zaj, but votes for Vez instead...and this was right after Zaj had received two votes on him.quadz08 wrote:
That was before my claim. This next one is after people have started wagoning me.Zajnet wrote: Think of it optimistically: You didn't get killed by the supersaintness because you weren't quite ready to vote yet. I for one don't really find you scummy for that HoS.
He then hears the claim, and seems to defend me. (See his ISO #13 and #14)Zajnet wrote:#142 definitely pings my scumdar, more so than quadz has yet. I support the wagon, but I won't vote for him until I hear the claim.
And then, after 5 posts about millar and vezok (not mentioning me at all), he votes for me, putting me at L-1. I really don't understand his logic there, even if he is scum. It just seems like bad play.Zajnet wrote:VOTE: quadz L-1.
vezok, on the other hand... holy sheeping, batman! That pretty much settles it for me. UNVOTE: VOTE: vezok
Here's more examples, i don't have enough time to go into any detail on them at the moment but I think they pretty much speak for themselves:
quadz08 wrote:Zaj, you're following popular opinion again. AGarjustgot finished talking about how the setup speculation was scummy, and I don't think anyone outside of me was looking at gandalf before that (and I was on him for lurking). In fact, in your next-to-last post, you say you can't get a read on gandalf. I don't buy it.
The TNM stuff is... unexpected, and different, which is good, but I'm a little unsure as to how you got that read on him. I currently have a null-townish read on him, and it's only townish because of his case of you, which seems pretty solid. I think you calling him out is at least somewhat OMGUS-based.
As per your request, I would like to inform you that I plan on hammering. Respond.
EDIT: Due to Mitsuru's Unvote, it appears that my vote will put you back at L-1. In that case:
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Zajnet
EDIT EDIT: Gosh dang. That was fast. Gandalf?Zajnet wrote:Agreed, but don't worry about him today. Let's take care of Gandalf, and we'll deal with quadz tomorrow.
There's more (such as Zaj calling quadz town yesterday, but then saying we should just lynch him today (and then voting me)), but I've got to go to work now, so I'll finish it later. Despite the fact I'm pretty sure that at least Zaj is scum, no lynching may be the safest option at this point just in case, I need to think about it a bit more anyway.quadz08 wrote:I still think Zajnet is more likely to be scum, but I'm ok with a Gandalf lynch today, I think. Just as a word of caution, we're at 5-2 (we think) so a mislynch puts us at 3-2 tomorrow, which is lylo.-
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AGar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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I'm gonna say let's no lynch after further thought. We're likely in 4:2, no sense wasting a day.
I could easily see Quadz/Zaj scumteam at this point. Want to iso them both, and see how Zaj reacted to the Exe wagon.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
Get to know me. Or don't. I won't tell you what to do. I'm not God. Or your father. Or your boss.-
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totallynotmafia Goon
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Well Zaj didn't post at all during the Exe wagon, which is why I think he probably went awol in order to avoid dropping the hammer.
The only thing that worries me about no lynching is erring on the side of caution, I'd hate to have the scum pegged and then still lose the game because of something unexpected happening at night. Having said that, the fact that neither Zaj nor quadz have suggested no lynching makes me like the idea more.-
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Zajnet Mafia Scum
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I have a life. I am away for periods of time out doing stuff.totallynotmafia wrote:Well Zaj didn't post at all during the Exe wagon, which is why I think he probably went awol in order to avoid dropping the hammer.My GTKAS
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quadz08 Jack of All Trades
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