Awesome. So I'm town when VV flips town then?Kmd4390 wrote:I'm starting to agree with ooba. I could see vas/rhinox as scumbuddies
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I've already prodded him, and he's picked it up. If he doesn't post soon I'll seek a replacement.Rhinox wrote:by the way, is troll on V/LA or something? he hasn't posted since day began.
Because Rhinox isKmd4390 wrote:I'm starting to agree with ooba. I could see vas/rhinox as scumbuddies
Opinion of you?Rhinox wrote:OK, let me try again without the sarcasm: Suppose VV is lynched today and flipped town, then what would your opinion be?kmd wrote:Rhinox, I figured that, but still don't like it.
Yeah. Not at first though:Rhinox wrote:P.S. didn't I just explain that?kmd wrote:then refusal to explain why he has Vas as "town" on the list.
Rhinox wrote:Because if you're not scum, the only other option in this game is town.
Why do you ask if you don't think he's scummy?
Seraphim wrote:Let's talk about reverse Mike. Why is he scum?Rhinox wrote:Why doesn't anyone want to talk about ekiM?
Your turn.Rhinox wrote:TRANSLATED:ekiM wrote:If Elmo had a big re-read to find new suspects last night I'd quite like to know who his other suspects are. Or was it just Amished?pssst... elmo, level with me, who's on your short list for tonight so we know if we should block you? *wink*
VOTE: ekiM
Any other opinions, say, regarding seraph or spyrex?Kmd4390 wrote:Opinion of you?Rhinox wrote:OK, let me try again without the sarcasm: Suppose VV is lynched today and flipped town, then what would your opinion be?kmd wrote:Rhinox, I figured that, but still don't like it.
It wouldn't change. The only thing that would change is I'd know that you weren't scum specifically with Vas. So, basically that Vas was town. Which would be obvious with the flip and all.
I thought plume might be fishing for role based information. Wanted to see where it went. Thought it was odd why plume asked specifically about VV, but not troll or DGB - 2 players I also haven't given any reasons for being on the town list.Kmd4390 wrote:Yeah. Not at first though:Rhinox wrote:P.S. didn't I just explain that?kmd wrote:then refusal to explain why he has Vas as "town" on the list.Rhinox wrote:Because if you're not scum, the only other option in this game is town.
Why do you ask if you don't think he's scummy?
Really? You could see that statement coming from town? Let me give you a little more. ekiM just got done making a big deal about Elmo being sorted out through night actions. Presumedly, that means ekiM doesn't want to lynch elmo, but he doesn't think elmo is town either. So, how does questioning elmo about who the other suspects were (besides amished) help town-ekiM lynch scum today? I can't think of a good reason, but I can think of a very good reason for scum-ekiM to try to determine elmo's vig list.Seraphim wrote:Sorry, not seeing it. That isn't enough to convince he's scum as I could see that statement coming from town too. You just threw spin on it. Got any other evidence or is that your big "slip"?
Yes, but there's also no scumhunting aspect to his play either. ooba has cited some meta where VV does, in fact, actually attempt to scumhunt, especially when a wagon had starting forming on him. He has no clue who his suspects are, besides what looks like an OMGUS vote on ooba(I have yet to see why he ever changed votes) and a vague, half-defined suspicion of zoraster.Rhinox wrote:There are no scummy motivations in his play, only apparent scumminess, and buzzword cases (opportunistic, wagon hopping, hypocritical, etc.). No motivation for scum to act how he is acting, drawing plenty of attention to himself. Perfect mislynch bait. He doesn't have to be super pro-town to be obv-not-scum.
Kind of my point - shooting KMD or VV directly contradicts what I've previously said. I don't know why you'd lynch me if I shot Zoraster - I thought he was scummy, you didn't, so I must be mafia? Whatever.SpyreX wrote:No. If you had shot KMD, DGB,or VV and claimed that shot there wouldn't have been any doubt (on the flipside I would have lynched the hell out of you with a Zor shot).Elmo wrote:I actually think you would actually find literally any choice of shot suspicious unless they flipped scum, because either they'd contradict what I've already said or they'd be people you think are bad choices.
If I flip scum, all of my buddies are on that list. Also, the earth is flat.DrippingGoofball wrote:If Hero flips scum, on of the above players is his buddy, and it ain't me.Herodotus wrote:Plumegranate, DGB, ekim, and Elli all deserve some attention today as possible scum.
The jump to suspect you was because I picked up that KMD had rolebased info, so I rolled with it. As for believing your story, yeah, that IS weirdElmo wrote:DGB's jump to suspect me earlier and then immediate jump to believing me is kinda weird. Hmm.