Open 226: Big Love - Game over! Town wins!

[ZeroFang]

I'd be interested to know what you think the answers to those questions are, ZeroFang...

I want people to speak up about the subject so that I can make more informed decisions. I'm in a toss up at the moment and so I want people's general thoughts. Though, ignoring it is ok to I guess

[ZeroFang]

Do we lynch one or both of robo and wacka and why?

I'm thinking both. At this rate we have a pretty good scum/town ration so we can afford to lynch both of them. I believe at least one of them is scum, but probably both.

If we only lynch one, which one and why?

I don't know, which is why I asked for opinions. More thoughts circulating = more (of) great ideas = better scumhunting = better lynching.

If we lynch both, which one first and why?

Again, I don't know, that's why I asked.

[Muthaa]

Welcome to the new guys/girls.
@Zero: First wacka, then robo; unless something happens.
@Robo: "DO IT!" LMAO!!

V/LA till monday.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

We have a Wacka replacement! Please welcome Miyu!

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Day Four, Vote Count #2

• mallowgeno (drmyshottyizsik) 1 L-6
  Robocopter87 (mallowgeno, Sanxion, Miyu) 3 L-4
  Wacka Alpaca (Robocopter87, Muthaa, DavidParker, Enigma) 4 L-3

Not voting: Mr.Sandman, RedCoyote, Switz, ZeroFang

With 12 alive, 7 votes are required for a lynch.

V/LA:

Muthaa (Monday, September 6th)

Activity Check!

We're full to capacity! Yay!

Prod Count:

smashbro_of_the_SSS - 2

chihuahua0, millar13, Muthaa, Pittbunny, Reverse Simplicity, Shattered Viewpoint, youngminii - 1

Deadline for Day Four is Tuesday, September 21st at 8pm UK time.

[Robocopter87]

@Robo: "DO IT!" LMAO!!

And he still hasn't! My patience is growing thin.

Cmon Sanxion,

DO IT.

[DavidParker]

You have claimed lover with Enigma, drmyshotty. Well, he claimed for you.

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok thats true

[Miyu]

Hi. Currently reading and will have a post soon.

[ZeroFang]

Three cheers for competent replacements!

[DavidParker]

no wall posts plzzz, lets just keep mindless bandwagons

[Miyu]

Day One:

- Mr.Sandman's vote, while I assume in the 'random voting stage' looks bandwagon.
- yabba has an ego.
- Most arguments between players that I have come across have been between two townies.
- What is with the random letter capitalization when someone says your name yabba?
- Reverse a slave to RNG? Wow.
- Self voters can go jump off a cliff. Especially those who choose to self-vote rather than ask to be replaced.
- I am glad that millar looks to of been replaced. Why is it hard to not be ridiculously silly. Just.. don't sign up for a game if you plan on being a clown.
- I don't understand Mr.Sandman's #179
- I'm on the Robo side of him/Don in regards to knowing how Lovers work. Why wouldn't someone read the rules/information posted by a mod? Or at least skim. Especially when it contains things you may not know. Incredibly lazy.
- millar apparently gets around.
- Awh SV. I don't think being scum is your forte.
- Why is policy voting scummy, Robo?
- millar was more jester than lurker.
- Mr.Sandman is an active lurker.
- Robo, why did you switch votes from Chihuahua to millar?
- Robo, #242 looks to be you endorsing policy lynching, in regards to millar. However previously you said it was scummy. Why the contradiction?
- Self voting is a null tell. I've seen townies do it, because they were fed up with the game, rather than request to be replaced.
- Sanxion. Is anti-town = scum?
- Xite/Millar is a mess and distraction.
- Whaaat. Millar offering to self-lynch is super scummy, but him actually selfvoting is.. not? Oh Xite.
- If millar knows that Xite is lying, then why not just vote for Xite. Why the need to lynch himself to prove that Xite is lying?
- Repeat. Xite/Millar is/was a mess.


Okay. Only up to page 21. Will finish the rest and reread 20 and 21 tomorrow. It is laate.

[Miyu]

Day one cont..

- Sanxion lurks and wagons.
- Wacka was lazy.
- Mr.Sandman, do you think scum would act how millar acted? How is that behavior, on the first day no less; beneficial to the scum? To me it seemed he was that way from the get-go, and he was close to getting lynched.
- Switz why would you do all of that reading and giving opinions, to then boil it all down to mathematics?
- Zero. About your Xite/Millar/Robo buddying being too close for comfort. Who of those three did/do you think are scum?
- Zero. Your #533-536 mention others more than Chihuahua. Why did you find Chihuahua scummy?
- About 'walls of text'. Suck it up. This is mafia, on a forum [gasp I know]. If you don't want to read a bunch of words, chat mafia would be more suited to you. I hear EM is 'real good on no discussion'. xD
- In terms of Xite/Chi/Millar. Lynch order: Chi/Xite/Millar. Chi was a lot more scummy than Xite and Millar. Xite and Millar were more anti-town than actually scummy. I don't see the benefit of Millar's actions benefiting the scum if he were one. Maybe if it was later in the game, but First Day? Xite, was actually in the last game I replaced in. Which funnily took place at the same time as this one it seems. She

acted much the same way. I think maybe just has an obsession with claiming, and doing it extremely poorly -> wrong timing. Her gambit/plan.. distraction for the town.
- Why do you lurk Muthaa?
- Even if I slightly agree with your proportions statement, but horrible to be using excuses - and the only thing you posted.
- 23+ pages for First Day? Which leaves 16- for Days two/three/four[current]? o.O
- David, why did you vote for Chihuahua?
- Haha @ "Catching up; I promise content within twelve hours" from SV. I believe you posted similar things in our last game, and you never returned. You were scum then as well.

From day one, out of the remaining players..
mallow

Xite/Millar

drmy I lean ranti-town, villagers.
Robo, Mr.Sandman, Sanxion are scummy.
Muthaa lurker
Every one else, no read.

[Miyu]

Day Two:

- Smash lurks.
- I don't think lovers revealing at this point is a good idea. Why not just.. not discuss who on that list could possibly be millar's lover. It solves the issue of possibly giving clues to the scum for a double kill.
- Zero. Your 'I think we should vote for Xite's slot today' when SVscum is a candidate, is scummy. You didn't even vote for Xite's slot..
- I think these cases on Don are silly. I know he can border on annoying, and maybe wackjob. But he pushed for Chihuahua... on Day One. How would that benefit the scum if he were one. If you think millar is/was scum, as well as Don. How does that compute? That would be millarscum acting ridiculous on Day One and close to getting himself lynched. Then it would be Donscum bussing Chihuahua on Day One. That would make a ridiculously terrible scumteam.
- David's #652 vote for Enigma because of meta, and effectively avoiding contributing to the discussion at hand, is scummy.
- Sanxion, why are you lurking and wagoning, and overall contributing very little to the discussions?
- Wow. Just Wow. SV selfhammering. Second time I've seen this from him.

Over all. I feel Switz is town. Still the same for drmy

xite/millar

mallow. Though activity level is down.
Sanxion, Zero, Robo, and David are up on suspicion.

Day Three:

- Wow David. One minute. Jumpy, much?
- Muthaa, why are you always lurking?
- Uh, unless my math is horrible. There are two scum remaining, not one.
- mallow. Why do you wagon? Did you even ISO Muthaa?
- Mallow. Why would you ask for a reason from Don and his statement you were scum, when you supplied no reason with your vote for Muthaa?
- Wow. A page of V/LA..
- David, are you obsessed with Enigma? That seems to be the majority of your contribution.. comments about Enigma.
- I can see some of the points for Zajnet. However, seriously Robo, Mr.Sandman, and David. Unless I missed something, none of your votes were supplied with reasoning. Wow.
- and mallow.
- Uhm. Isn't that a Zajnet lynch with mallow's vote?
- David, an admitted wagoner.
- Robo, more wagoning.
- Wow. Just Wow. "Well, I don't really care who we lynch as long as we lynch somebody." ~Robo. If you're town, you should care.
- This all makes my head want to explode. Such a game filled with wagoners, and 98% too lazy to actually make cases. Terrible. Just terrible.

Overall:
Wow. Just wow.

Day Four:

- This fourth day is turning out to be another 'wow'.

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Confirm vote: Robocopter

"Well, I don't really care who we lynch as long as we lynch somebody."
"I don't care who is killed, lets just kill someone."
Guilty of lurking, guilty of bandwagoning.
Which to be honest - lurking and wagoning is a guilt for close to half of the player list. I think added with quoted statements, and his contradiction in terms of policy lynches the first day = scum.

[mallowgeno]

"Well, I don't really care who we lynch as long as we lynch somebody."
"I don't care who is killed, lets just kill someone."
Guilty of lurking, guilty of bandwagoning.
Which to be honest - lurking and wagoning is a guilt for close to half of the player list. I think added with quoted statements, and his contradiction in terms of policy lynches the first day = scum.

Amen Brothah!

[ZeroFang]

The "no wall posts plzzz, lets just keep mindless bandwagons" post from DP deserves a mention.

[Switz]

Sorry, guys, I'm going to be V/LA until probably about Wednesday. There's a chance I'll be able to pop on MS to keep track of the game but probably not.

Glad to see we have replacements though.

[DavidParker]

yeah obvious sarcasm definitely is a significant point for analysis!

[mallowgeno]

Ah DP, you're probably one of my favorite players to play with. I'm fairly certain that DP is town, I've played with him before. He loves using sarcasm so don't count that as a tell.

[DavidParker]

I'm actually flattered. Most people hate me.

[Miyu]

Because I'm feeling nice, and we've got those pesky TLDR's about.

- Mr.Sandman, do you think scum would act how millar acted? How is that behavior, on the first day no less; beneficial to the scum? To me it seemed he was that way from the get-go, and he was close to getting lynched.
- Switz why would you do all of that reading and giving opinions, to then boil it all down to mathematics?
- Zero. About your Xite/Millar/Robo buddying being too close for comfort. Who of those three did/do you think are scum?
- Zero. Your #533-536 mention others more than Chihuahua. Why did you find Chihuahua scummy?
- Why do you lurk Muthaa?
- David, why did you vote for Chihuahua?

- Sanxion, why are you lurking and wagoning, and overall contributing very little to the discussions?

- Wow David. One minute. Jumpy, much?
- Muthaa, why are you always lurking?
- mallow. Why do you wagon? Did you even ISO Muthaa?


All of the questions. Please answer, thanks.

[Miyu]

Wow. I missed my own post. Too early in the morning. From first 'day one' post.

- Why is policy voting scummy, Robo?
- Robo, why did you switch votes from Chihuahua to millar?
- Robo, #242 looks to be you endorsing policy lynching, in regards to millar. However previously you said it was scummy. Why the contradiction?
- Sanxion. Is anti-town = scum?

[Enigma]

Ah DP, you're probably one of my favorite players to play with. I'm fairly certain that DP is town, I've played with him before. He loves using sarcasm so don't count that as a tell.

I'm sure davids play is notorious already and I know he has a history here of reckless over-confident play, fake claims etc etc. Exactly what makes you feel he is town? Me and him have a history of playing together prior to ms, and I think I would be much more confident in my assessment of his behavior than your assessment.

And also he is a sneaky manipulative person! So don't be too rash when handing out judgment about him.

[mallowgeno]

Where have you played before here Enigma?

[Enigma]

And that is relevant exactly how?

Answer my question.