Mafia 119: MURDER AT HOTEL DEATH(GAME OVER)

[singersigner]

I'm conflicted on vezokpiraka.

He ALWAYS does this shit.

Does he really? Can you show me examples?

[DemonHybrid]

I'm conflicted on vezokpiraka.

He ALWAYS does this shit.

Does he really? Can you show me examples?

Countless. Just check any game he was in....he always gives off scummy tells and throws around suspicion without giving thoughts or opinions or examples. Some of the time, he's scum and some of the time, he's town but he ALWAYS acts like this.

From my personal experience, I can only give examples of ongoing games, so I can't from my perspective, but take a look at his game history and you'll know what I mean.

[DemonHybrid]

Actually, I can give one example from a game we were both in:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =1&t=14720 Vanillaside. I was scum this time and he was town, but he pretty much did the same thing all game.

[vollkan]

I'm conflicted on vezokpiraka.

He ALWAYS does this shit.

Does he really? Can you show me examples?

Countless. Just check any game he was in....he always gives off scummy tells and throws around suspicion without giving thoughts or opinions or examples. Some of the time, he's scum and some of the time, he's town but he ALWAYS acts like this.

From my personal experience, I can only give examples of ongoing games, so I can't from my perspective, but take a look at his game history and you'll know what I mean.

I've played with him in one other completed game. He was stupid and a VI there, though I don't recall him ever being outrightly contradictory like he is now. He usually just gave suspicion and votes for no reason - as opposed to being contradictory and having 'reasons', albeit terrible ones.

Is that your experience of him?

[a2rudeboy]

prod avoidance.

still reading, been trying to figure out which of many ongoing theories is the most compelling right now.

[zwetschenwasser]

I don't buy the meta thing on vezok

[DemonHybrid]

I didn't know there was a difference, voll, except for the subtleties.

[DemonHybrid]

I don't buy the meta thing on vezok

Uh.....

There was a meta "thing"? I just said that I can't read vezok due to vezok being vezok. Therefore, his back and forth non-specific whatever neither incriminates him nor makes him innocent.

[zwetschenwasser]

I'm talking about vollkan

[DemonHybrid]

Understood.

[Looker]

Cause Espy is scummy now.
SS didn't post so she is not scummy now. I will switch my vote if she posts something scummy.

What if she just stops posting?

• Can we get those reads from you?
  
• What changed your mind about Espeonage being scum?

Town Neighbor one-shot CPR Doctor

I'm inclined to think you are town now, since I don't think scum would know to put in "town" in their name (and in the right place). In any case, that's the exact title of my role, too, so I'll UNVOTE: curiouskarmadog.

Did you consider safe-claims?

And the spam things need more explanation too.

Spam is just unsolicited bullcrap. Like me talking about DemonHybrid's facebook page or vollkan and CKD's "Best Mafia Performance" titles.

hoping to update in the next 48

I don't really have much for you right now other than this post.
UNVOTE: VOTE: curiouskarmadog

[Looker]

I'm bored.

[vezokpiraka]

I'm not.
You'll get my reads day 2.
So Looker looks like town to me. Anyone want to agree?

[Looker]

?

Are you trying to get me killed?

[CooLDoG]

To be completly Honest I don't see Looker as scummy... untill that last post.

?

Are you trying to get me killed?

Are you implying that you and Vez are buddies?

fos: Looker

. How could he get you killed?
I hate to keep opening up an old wound but Jack is active lurking, but I Don't think he is now worth a lynch over Looker or Esp.

[Looker]

You

do

know how NKs work, right? Kill off the towniest player?

[Looker]

Which is not me, by the way; it's vollkan.

[curiouskarmadog]

posting in all (3) games...tonight or tomorrow morning for updates (so it wasnt 48 hours, it was 72).

[DemonHybrid]

I'm not.
You'll get my reads day 2.

Oh yeah?

I'll hold you to this.

[Jack]

cooldog needs to die

[Looker]

What about his post restriction?

[zwetschenwasser]

Which is not me, by the way; it's vollkan.

Trying to get vollkan killed, eh?

[singersigner]

Which is not me, by the way; it's vollkan.

lol, are you trying to get

him

killed?

[Seraphim]

Vote Count

NicolBolas(0) -

Jack(1)

– Nero Cain

vezokpiraka(2)

– SnakePlissken, singersigner

curiouskarmadog(1)

– Looker
Stef(0) -

horrordude0215(1)

- Stef

Espeonage(6)

– vollkan, CooLDoG, a2rudeboy, Pomegranate, DemonHybrid, vezokpiraka
vollkan(0) -
CooLDoG(0) -

Nero Cain(1)

- Jack

zwetschenwasser(1)

– Espeonage
a2rudeboy(0) -
Pomegranate(0) -

Looker(2)

– zwetschenwasser, horrordude0215
SnakePlissken(0) -
PranaDevil(0) -
DemonHybrid(0) –

singersigner(1)

- curiouskarmadog

Not Voting(2)

– PranaDevil, NicolBolas

With 18 alive, it is 10 to lynch
Deadline: September 16, 2010, 12:00 pm, Central Time

[horrordude0215]

So we have Esp, Looker, and SS for scum so far. One or two more and I'd say we have the entire team

Town, Town, 33% chance of being Town.

I get you saying that you're town, that's natural. But to say that Esp is town? That's quite a stretch...

• It's only scummy if you believe it. And I wasn't the only one to notice it. We should dictate his actions as a Town,
  and if he's still alive in the morning, we lynch him.

You may not have been the only one to notice it, but you were the only one to mention it, which is scummy as hell. And WTF? at bolded. Setting up lynches in advance is extremely scummy.

• Why is it such a stretch? Because there's a lot of people voting him Day 1?
• If scum notice it, they kill him, it's over. If we notice it, at least we have a chance to protect him. Also, I understand your concern with the bolded; your logic is not lost on me - I hope mine isn't on you.

It's a stretch because, well look at Esp's contribution to the game so far... How can you call that town?

And yeah, if scum notice a possible crumb, they'll probably kill them. But pointing out one is even scummier, because I didn't even consider that a crumb at all, and it'd be a very subtle one at that, so I doubt scum would as well. However, because you pointed it out, he could very well be a target tonight, thanks to you. And the reason I pointed that out is because when I see people point out crumbs for everyone to see I immediately think "Hmm... that could very well be scum getting a message to their buddies in case they don't make it through the day". Does my logic make sense?

You're town, by the way, so relax.

That was regarding Zwet... How did you reach that conclusion?

@horrid: So you voted and changed your vote 4 times in 14 posts, that means that there is a 29% chance that you will switch your vote in your next post. What do you consider wishy-washy to be?

Please call me HORROR... thanks. And it's not wishy-washy if I give reasons for my votes and unvotes is it? I find someone to be scummier than my previous vote, and I act upon it. Explain how that's wishy-washy.

SS 348 - I see you jumping on a very slight Vez BW and parroting Voll's 345... care to explain?

hoping to update in the next 48

I don't really have much for you right now other than this post.
UNVOTE: VOTE: curiouskarmadog

Reasons? He said he would post within 48 hours and you vote him because he didn't respond to your post or something?

I'm not.
You'll get my reads day 2.
So Looker looks like town to me. Anyone want to agree?

At every part of this post. You say that you won't reveal any reads until day 2. Then you give a read on looker, saying he's town. (BTW, I can't disagree with you more)

Looker's 366 seem to be more scumbuddy direction to me.

More looker votes plz